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26-09-2005
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Yeah, YSL might have been THE house to watch, if only Elbaz and Slimane would have stayed in their positions as head designers for women´s and menswear... I actually liked both their early collections a lot, I still love Alber Elbaz last collection for YSL, with all those Gold Lamé suits and jackets... yummy...!

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He also is happier with the direction of YSL Rive Gauche since Tom Ford's departure. He said YSL designer Stefano Pilati consults the archives on a regular basis.
"Some of what he does is good," says Saint Laurent of Pilati. "Some of it is not so good."
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softgrey...that article makes up my day thanks softgrey,

well i think Stefano was too hurry in taking this pic.- which was only after his 1st collection- if he listened to this comment earlier from his master, he wouldn't did it. especialy in the way he pose with his hands on YSL & Karen Elson under his feets?????? he looks so vain & arrogant in that pose.

& well sayed tricotineacetat, I loved Elbaz for YSL & i feel that J.P.Gaultier captures the YSL spirit & vitality very well...just check his couture collections since Yves retirement .
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the 1st smoking & more smokings ....




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I have a pack of YSL menthol cigarettes, maybe the title is quite literal!
Yves Saint Laurent cigarettes? There are YSL ciagarettes?! Wow, where can I get some of those Why..Why cigarettes?

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because smoking is 'chic'...

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don't know that they still make them actually pastry...
haven't seen them in ages...

how old is your pack poc??...

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because smoking is 'chic'...

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don't know that they still make them actually pastry...
haven't seen them in ages...

how old is your pack poc??...
Pass. It's from New Zealand though, so maybe it's been hidden inside a sheep for twenty years or something...

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Softie: YSL cigarettes are alive and well, at least in Hong Kong!

The concept of a smoking jacket is indeed quite chic...what exactly defines a smoking jacket? Wide lapels in contrasting fabric? Or does it refer to any blazer you can wear on its own, individual of a full suit? That said, Slimane's individual blazers are very nice...i wonder if he would've developed such treatments on the more couture-esque jackets had he stayed at YSL?

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because smoking is 'chic'...

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Well, duh! Smoking is damn smooth!

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Softie: YSL cigarettes are alive and well, at least in Hong Kong!

The concept of a smoking jacket is indeed quite chic...what exactly defines a smoking jacket? Wide lapels in contrasting fabric? Or does it refer to any blazer you can wear on its own, individual of a full suit? That said, Slimane's individual blazers are very nice...i wonder if he would've developed such treatments on the more couture-esque jackets had he stayed at YSL?
i believe that a 'smoking' is a tuxedo.....
initially a traditional pant suit and later ysl developed it into dresses as well...
**one incarnation of the 'smoking' dress is what he famously sued ralph lauren for copying and won the case...

i'm thinking that some of what taz posted doesn't really qualify as a 'smoking'...
it has to be a tux...
so satin lapels and sometimes cuffs are usually part of the piece...

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ive never seen one of the original 'le smoking' suits... is this one?

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images of the smoking & more versions of it, Yves used to play with its propotion & cuts adding the jacket into short pants ,long or short skirts.. ....if u can remeber them in his last collection before taking his last standing ovation

the 2 ones below are the 1st le somking
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here is the famous pic of 'le smoking' by helmut newton...
this was a big revolution at the time...
the idea of a woman wearing a man's tuxedo as eveningwear had never existed before...

it was all about androgyny...
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le smoking- one of the true classics...

(autumn 2005 )

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hello travis...



fyi-
ysl's 'le smoking' is about womens' tuxedos...
and ysl did not design a/w 2005...




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hello softgrey...

i'm aware of that however, i just wanted to illustrate that the masculine le smoking tux is also a staple of his menswear and stefano consistantly reinstates his old designs- which is wise because it seperates ysl from the other trend led fashion brands.

(btw- luv that pic of deneave with the young ysl- she looks almost...feminine....)

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