1970s 1980s 1990s The Japanese Avant-garde - Page 3

**softgrey** · 18-03-2005

hmmm...thanks travolta...very japanese...

travolta · 18-03-2005

btw we don't have an antwerp six thread do we?

**MulletProof** · 18-03-2005

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The term is Takashi Murakami's own, his manifesto on the way various forms of graphic design, pop culture and fine arts are compressed -- flattened -- in Japan. The term also refers to the two-dimensionality of Japanese graphic art and animation, as well as to the shallow emptiness of its consumer culture.

thanks travolta!

i really like yo****ama nara

i have a magazine with several pics of superflat artists, I'm gonna scan them one of these days

kit · 18-03-2005

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kit, i have to agree-at least from what i know about miyake-i haven't seen yohji's clothes or rei's actually, but i've seen miyake's and he is one of the only designers now i that i think about it that i would devote an entire wardrobe to if i could. for example his pleats please line offers everything you would want in a garment: its easy to store, it has its own lightweight flexible internal structure, its machine washable...not to mention his highly innovative A-POC line...he also was smart enough to patent his process which can be used for other products..that is where the future of fashion lies-in the manufactoring...and he's also a realist. he is one of the few designers which can cross the boundry between high fashion and functional ready to wear clothing. I said it before-he needs to do athletic wear!

"Miyake is, at heart, an artist moved by the beauty of the human form and the clothes that enfold it" http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.04/miyake_pr.html

Actually , Travolta , Pleats Please and APOC are the only two lines that Issey himself designs .

Point of interest :-

The Issey line that is sold in plastic tubes is ' Me Issey Miyake ' .

BTW there's not an Antwerp Six thread , per se , but Ann Dem , Dries , and the others have numerous threads .

Monsieur Faust is the recognised expert here .

faust · 18-03-2005

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Originally Posted by kit

Actually , Travolta , Pleats Please and APOC are the only two lines that Issey himself designs .

Point of interest :-

The Issey line that is sold in plastic tubes is ' Me Issey Miyake ' .

BTW there's not an Antwerp Six thread , per se , but Ann Dem , Dries , and the others have numerous threads .

Monsieur Faust is the recognised expert here .

Yes, people, Margiela was NOT a part of the Antwerp Six, how many times do I have to tell you?!

**softgrey** · 18-03-2005

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Originally Posted by kit

Monsieur Faust is the recognised expert here .

i think faust share's that honour with scott, kit...!!

and i would think that the antwerp six would be part of this discussion since they have all pretty much cited the japanese avant-garde as an influence...

they are the next generation of the avant-garde...

travolta · 18-03-2005

softgrey-can you explain, or faust-a little bit about that?

faust · 18-03-2005

Yes, my hat off to Scott - he knows his Belgians

What would you like to know, Travolta?

travolta · 18-03-2005

if you could give some insight in what ways the belgians-dries whomever were influenced that would be a start...

**softgrey** · 18-03-2005

ok...start a new thread for an in-depth analysis of belgian design...
stick to how they were influenced by the japanese avant-garde aesthetic for this thread...please...or who knows where we'll wind up...we've already started talking about the whole flat thing...

thanks...

found this on a-poc...by issey miyake...
the pic is from an exhibit which i attended about 5 years ago...
http://www.designboom.com/eng/funclub/apoc.html
the stuff comes on a giant roll...

..and then you cut it up to make your own 'custom' designs...

**softgrey** · 18-03-2005

here is something about 'me' by issey miyake which was mentioned earlier min the thread by kit...

...still innovating even after 30 years in the business...
http://www.designboom.com/eng/funclub/apoc_me.html

faust · 18-03-2005

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Originally Posted by travolta

if you could give some insight in what ways the belgians-dries whomever were influenced that would be a start...

Well, they were definitely sighted as an inspiration to create something different, something else than the accepted Parisian fashions. Especially Rei - she was an example of how you can create something completely rebellious and become a success. I don't have any quotes on hand, but I'll dig around in my books over the weekend.

travolta · 18-03-2005

miyake spring '99

nqth · 18-03-2005

Such good articles and info on Rei and Miyake, thank you so much:-).

I didn't know much about Miyake, except for a film by BBC about fashion in the 90s, where thet showed Miyake and his fabric experimentation.

Here are some old Comme:-)

CdG 83

Tricot 83

CdG 86

The pics come from various catalogs that Comme used to do in the 80s.

nqth · 18-03-2005

From Six mag.

I don't know where it comes from:-) looks similar to the 86 catalog

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travolta V.I.P. Profile: Location: New York City Gender: femme Posts: 3,591	miyake spring '99 __________________ "the way a problem is set up often suggests the resolution." http://michelleboxgirl.blogspot.com/ Last edited by travolta : 18-03-2005 at 05:16 PM.
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nqth arndom Profile: Location: Hanoi, Vietnam Gender: homme Posts: 2,574	Such good articles and info on Rei and Miyake, thank you so much:-). I didn't know much about Miyake, except for a film by BBC about fashion in the 90s, where thet showed Miyake and his fabric experimentation. Here are some old Comme:-) CdG 83 Tricot 83 CdG 86 The pics come from various catalogs that Comme used to do in the 80s. Last edited by nqth : 18-03-2005 at 05:16 PM.
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nqth arndom Profile: Location: Hanoi, Vietnam Gender: homme Posts: 2,574	From Six mag. I don't know where it comes from:-) looks similar to the 86 catalog Last edited by nqth : 18-03-2005 at 05:26 PM.
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