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The amount of expensive silk in this collection is just out of this world. The fabrics alone for the runway samples must have cost Dior hundreds of thousands, if they are those expensive couture silks from Italy and so on.

The light drapey chiffon and silk pieces look beautiful when I look at the collection now. It's also an interesting design experiment how the fabric can totally change the voluminous patterns.

This show belonged to the time I got interested in fashion... I remember watching it online and having a magazine with HQ photos of the seasons couture collections. At the time this show and clothes was mesmerizing and somehow it still is, only now it's more about appreciating the shapes and pattern cutting, the volume and research, whereas back then it was more about the fantasy and theatricality.

If this was shown today I wonder how we all would react to it?

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So if anybody has any pics that show what these clothes actually looked like OFF then runway..you know, for real couture clients, I'd love to see that instead.
Exactly... That would be interesting. I don't remember seeing any modified versions for any red carpets or celebs from this collection.

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So if anybody has any pics that show what these clothes actually looked like OFF then runway..you know, for real couture clients, I'd love to see that instead.
Of course Mouna bought one

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This was maybe my least favorite Couture collection from him.
It was and it is a bit much and it still feels a bit confused (even if it was focused).
Too much ruffles, too much silk, too much! Add to that the show in the show... BUT being talented as he was(and still is), he managed to make the whole thing work. No one could have done it.

FW Couture 2002 was so exquisite that this felt a bit meh.
Surprizingly FW2003 which was inspired by this collection was kinda great, even if it was a bit vulgar.

It's always funny to believe that Dior was the most difficult brand to wear when it was the most popular but it shows that with a great creative and a great vision, you can do wonders.

Galliano was the one who made deconstruction believable for a mainstream audience. Dior had some of the most incredible skirts and coats at the time.

It'a pity that people only remembers the very successful "J'adore Dior" t-shirts.

And for people who bought that, You should check Mouna Ayoub. She is France's most well known Couture client and she is maybe IMO the bravest of all. She may not being the most stylish but she is very committed to the designer's vision.

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You can see photos of celebs wearing Dior couture here:

http://forums.thefashionspot.com/f50...-127879-3.html

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ah, what it must feel like to own a piece from that collection

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This was maybe my least favorite Couture collection from him.
It was and it is a bit much and it still feels a bit confused (even if it was focused).
Too much ruffles, too much silk, too much! Add to that the show in the show... BUT being talented as he was(and still is), he managed to make the whole thing work. No one could have done it.

FW Couture 2002 was so exquisite that this felt a bit meh.
Surprizingly FW2003 which was inspired by this collection was kinda great, even if it was a bit vulgar.

It's always funny to believe that Dior was the most difficult brand to wear when it was the most popular but it shows that with a great creative and a great vision, you can do wonders.
Yes!!! The ready-to-wear was so much more exciting even though it was so hooker-ish. My thougths about this have always been similar to yours, it is such an outstanding performance but the clothes in themselves are just TOO MUCH. Excess is a mainstay in Galliano's vocabulaire but there are limits.

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His old Dior shows from around this era looked like one big, silly costume-party, IMO.

So if anybody has any pics that show what these clothes actually looked like OFF then runway..you know, for real couture clients, I'd love to see that instead.
you just need to check the following RTW collection usually. John usually translated the couture essence for the general buying public into relatively wearable pieces. of course there were also showpieces, but it's not so hard to imagine reduced volumes. i remember someone posting comparison images between his Teddyboy collection and the lookbook with the items which made it to the stores.

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you just need to check the following RTW collection usually. John usually translated the couture essence for the general buying public into relatively wearable pieces. of course there were also showpieces, but it's not so hard to imagine reduced volumes. i remember someone posting comparison images between his Teddyboy collection and the lookbook with the items which made it to the stores.
You're absolutely correct! In fact, Dodie Rosekrans, who was an ardent Galliano supporter/couture client since the mid-'90s, had actually passed on pieces from this collection... instead opting for a few things from the RTW collection that followed. She even wore one of the green cherry blossom dresses from the fall show, which was a riff on the silk embroidered cherry blossom coat from the spring couture.


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I would hope the clients would extract as much from the fantasy world while maintaining some real world aesthetic...the two pieces shown in this thread are hideous.

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biggest part of this collection are coats and clients can wear them with simple evening dress as Vogue suggested with this piece from FW 2003 RTW

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^ I was actually just looking for that picture! That coat is beyond stunning -- dramatic as hell and extremely specific, but not out of the realm of wearable when paired with something that acts like a sort of pedestal.

I do have to agree with Lola about this collection though. The show itself is great -- the soundtrack, makeup, hair and some of the clothing are all fantastic -- but at the time it was never my favorite Dior Couture collection and it still isn't. There's something sort of unresolved about a lot of it, from a concept point of view. I'm totally on board with the sort of extremity, experimental volumes and cutting, the geometry of it all, but there are more than a few looks which just don't feel like they were completely thought out. Some looks truly do look like massive piles of extremely costly fabrics that are all but drowning the model wearing them. It's a bit unrefined in a way, not as fully realized as even the craziest of Galliano's couture spectacles.

It's also, shockingly, very one note, and considering how Galliano had a tendency to break his shows into actual chapters within the story he was telling that's a real head-scratcher. BUT, it was filtered into some really amazing ready to wear clothing for the season which followed and did, for better or worse, inform much of Galliano's work that came after it.

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Anne Bass wore Dior Couture to the Met Gala 2003

snaps by me from US Vogue july 2003 and january 2004

same fabric as in Khozzisova dress in different color and embroidery from Jacquetta's jacket

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FW Couture 2002 was so exquisite that this felt a bit meh.
FW 02 Couture must be my favorite from him in this century. So bad we still don't have the full video on youtube (so many people are asking!) I remember watching it on Dior.com and got extremely excited with the live chorus and Marilyn Monroe posing and especially the energy from that show. You are right. John made deconstruction interesting.

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Opening look on display right now in London ‘The Vulgar: Fashion Redefined’ Exhibition at the Barbican Art Gallery
right near Raf's look from HC FW 2014

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and there are more Dior Couture from Galliano era like Khozissova's gown from HC FW 2004, closing look from HC SS 2005, black dress from HC SS 2009 and look from HC FW 1998 Orient Express collection

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