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27-08-2015
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Gisele is definitely a supermodel...or even one step above a supermodel...an ubermodel. Top paid model in the world, done pretty much every runway/campaign possible, very well known household name. More importantly she's a muse to all the big name designers, photographers, and editors.

Even Naomi Campbell and other 90s supers acknowledge Gisele's power as a supermodel/ubermodel.
giselle is definitely the biggest model ever. however, i wouldnt say she is a muse to all big designers and photographers.there are quite a few big designers that she hasn't worked with eg gucci, prada, and many more.

commercially, miss bundchen is massive. artistically she is not on the same level of linda, daria or kate moss.

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^^Thats not true. Whether or not she's been in an ad campaign or not, she still walked for Prada several times in the late 90's/early 00's, and same for Gucci. Gisele in her earlier days was very high fashion and walked very big shows - Balenciaga (she was also the campaign girl for Balenciaga several times), McQueen, Dior by Galliano (she was also the campaign girl for Dior dozens of times throughout Galliano's entire tenure), she was a big campaign star for Marc Jacobs at Louis Vuitton, she's a HUGE part of the Dolce & Gabanna brand, and she had a major solo YSL campaign in 2007, among many others. And that's not even mentioning her numerous Meisel lensed Vogue US moments for a good decade worth of time and all of her Mert & Marcus moments, AND Inez & Vinhood have been photographing her for forever - for editorials, campaigns and otherwise.

I would definitely classify Gisele as a supermodel in the sense that she possesses both major commercial marketability and major legitimate high fashion desirability.


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^^Not to mention, her major Vogue Paris presence felt throughout the 00's. She must have had at least 6 or 7 covers during Carine's tenure. She was also a fixture of W Magazine pre-Stefano...and from what I have read, she had 10 Vogue UK covers in the span of 4 years early in her career - which apparently not even Kate Moss had ever achieved. Her magazine covers total close to 600, second only to Princess Diana. She's an ultimate Mario Testino muse AND her recent ties to Chanel and Karl suggest her still potent high fashion pull.

She's got it.


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^^^Absolutely.

Gisele's not just a Super, she's an Uber. I don't care for her, but there's no denying her versatility that spans from high fashion Gaultier and McQueen to commercial Sports Illustrated and Victoria's Secret appeal. That's a league of her own.

I don't think a Super has to be a kind of muse to designers and photographers. Claudia was as flat and one-note as they come (until Kendall came along), and people accept her as a Super.

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The supermodel phenom was about the IT girls models who first were the most sought after in the fashion industry and then jumped into tv news, films, newspapers, not-fashion magazines, charity shows, tv shows. They became big celebrities. They worked as tv hosts, presenter festivals. They did it ALL.

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Adriana, Heidi, Gisele, Doutzen as the victoria's secret household names gained a worldwide celebrity status even so they failed to transcendence in the level the 80s and 90s supers did.

I think these actual models are more celebrities than supermodels. Of course the internet and social media made a big difference. I wonder if instagram, twitter and fb don't exist theey would be that famous.

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Even the worldwide presidents and loyalty has recieved the supermodels. They were photographed together, they had share dinners with, they were solicitated to form part of Unicef and other big international social campaigns. It is not enough to walk in every big brand to become a supermodel. I think that phenom won't repeat again, ever... (and that's a little sad)

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Gisele is a super-celebrity-men-hunter. DiCaprio was her first heavyweight prey (2000), then Chris Evans, Tom Brady...

Well, of course, because there aren't any men, and certainly no well-known men, who want to date models. No, they have to be hunted.


Oh, wait ... isn't Leonardo known for the long string of young models he's dated? Not to mention a lengthy list of musicians, actors, etc. who are or have been married to models.

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Maybe it's overlooked b/c it's obvious, but the supermodel phenomenon of the '80s/'90s was partly owing to the appearance around the same time of an exceptionally BEAUTIFUL crop of girls, it attained critical mass and suddenly attention was paid to models and modeling in a way it hadn't before...and hasn't since.

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giselle is definitely the biggest model ever. however, i wouldnt say she is a muse to all big designers and photographers.there are quite a few big designers that she hasn't worked with eg gucci, prada, and many more.

commercially, miss bundchen is massive. artistically she is not on the same level of linda, daria or kate moss.
Gisele is for sure a supermodel but not the biggest model ever. Three models on the top of my head that are bigger than Gisele are Claudia, Cindy, and Kate. Claudia is probably the biggest model because the entire world was obsessed with her. She was high fashion and commercially successful. I remember in the 90s she was paid 3 million dollars to be in a commercial and in 1996 she had made something like $12 million dollars. That is a lot of money for back then.

Cindy existed more along the commercial lines but we all knew who she was. Cindy had fans who were women but had a strong male fan base. Claudia was shy and mysterious but Cindy was always on the front burner. People were captivated with her. She is the most similar to the Gisele like modeling although I think she was a better model. Whereas Gisele has Adriana and Alessandra as her sexy counterparts, Cindy had Stephanie and Helena. The difference is that while the Brazilians all appeal to the same market; the 90s girls all had different target markets. Stephanie did lots of high fashion but she was undoubtedly marketed to the men, Helena always had a much more feminine appeal. Helena was sexy in a more exotic way that women ate up. Cindy's appeal was more down home and universal.

The argument for Kate isn't that she changed the fashion industries view on beauty, she changed the world's view on beauty. In the fashion industry, Amber was the first waif and it was her who made fashion obsessed with the waif.. Kate was definitely peak 90's cool and she made being thin the thing. Since Kate, there have been a few curvy girls on the runway but for the past 20+ years, the Kate Moss ideal has been the thing.

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commercially i would pick giselle, cindy and claudia as the 3 biggest models ever.

artistically/high fashion, i would pick kate, linda and daria as the 3 biggest models ever. i dont just judge on the volume but the also the quality of their works.

overall, queen giselle is the biggest supermodel ever!!!!!

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Gisele is nowhere near as popular as any of the Big 5 from the 90's. Well maybe more so than Christy Turlington but that's it.

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Gisele is nowhere near as popular as any of the Big 5 from the 90's. Well maybe more so than Christy Turlington but that's it.
you must be kidding! the girl appears in more magazine covers than any model on the planet. and her campaigns are countless. on top of that she dated leo decaprio and is married to tom brady.

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I get the feeling that Linda wasn't/isn't as popular as the other supers. She was mainly high fashion and thus not very interesting to the mainstream people. Maybe that's why you don't see her often anymore. She's aged horribly as well.

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I get the feeling that Linda wasn't/isn't as popular as the other supers. She was mainly high fashion and thus not very interesting to the mainstream people. Maybe that's why you don't see her often anymore. She's aged horribly as well.
I think people underestimate the popularity of Linda and Christy. Linda was extremely popular during that time because she was always seen as the most skilled of the supermodels. She was also dating Kyle MacLachlan who was a big actor at the time. Christy was less popular but everyone still knew who she was.

Gisele has the most vogue covers but Kate, Linda, and Christy have more big 4 covers and the supers have more originals than her. In terms of Elle covers, Helena is actually leagues ahead of every other model. Gisele is popular and lots of people know who she is but everyone was obsessed with Cindy and Claudia. The same thing to a lesser extend with Naomi and Helena. You could turn on the tv any day and you'd know what Claudia was wearing, who Naomi was dating, a Cindy commercial, and where Helena was at.

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