[GivenchyHomme]

She's made the magazine more commercial, which in my opinion is not a good thing. Vogue Paris used to be one of the most High Fashion Magazines in the world. Now it's been watered down, it's sort of like Elle or Instyle except with fancy packaging. At least Carine was experimental and unafraid, she even used a variety of Models both new and old. I haven't purchased one issue since Carine left. With a title like "Vogue Paris" this Magazine should be the best in the world, instead it has stooped to an inferior level that blends in with most other minor "Fashion" Magazines.

[blueorchid]

The revisionist feelings toward Carine are seriously cracking me up. People were bitching and bitching about every issue Carine did shortly before she left.

Sometimes I have to wonder if what people expect from fashion magazines just does not match what magazines can actually produce.

[sliver]

I really want Emmanuelle to stay.I do think the magazine now is much better than her previous ones,and I do believe VP will be getting better in the future.

[burbuja8910]

Well, the begining of Emmanuelle as EIC the first issues under by her, the eds were a kind boring, because VP become more commercial like Elle or InStyle, but recently a few last issues produced a nice eds, for example (the issue with Laetitia on the cover), Emmanuelle made an amazing work, as well with the other eds with respective stylists.

I think my problem is than her using the same models on each issue, i mean i wanna to see other models will star the eds.

But i think the team of Conde Nast don't have an other person who will be replace Emmanuelle & let's hope in the future than Emmanuelle still will produce a good work. I mean she don't left VP yet.

[sill]

I don't think the styling has anything, or at least not much, to do with why the cover shots haven't been up to par. As has been mentioned, Alt was a lot of the times responsible for the styling of the cover shoots during Carine's time in charge - and those turned out great. The problem is that they all have the potential to make a great cover, but Emmanuelle doesn't always have the right eye, or direction, for what makes a good cover shot or not.

Now the covers aren't my biggest problem (if they'd only bring back the old font, or at least get a new one that doesn't make the magazine look cheap). The general lack of great editorials (the images to me, feel empty) and repetitiveness is why I haven't renewed my subscription to Vogue Paris and why I don't find the magazine to be alluring anymore.

[SugarMe]

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Originally Posted by blueorchid The revisionist feelings toward Carine are seriously cracking me up. People were bitching and bitching about every issue Carine did shortly before she left.

While this is true, the unfortunate reality of this is that the magazine has not improved since Carine left. I would argue that it has become worse under Alt's new direction, but then I wouldn't advocate for her being fired.

Since I can't actually read Vogue Paris, my opinion of the magazine lies solely in the way it looks, and I have to say that magazine has been looking awful. All rhetoric about these-things-taking-time aside, I think Alt has already made clear the direction she wants to take the magazine, one which appeals to a more commercial side of fashion (at least in comparison to Carine's direction). There's nothing wrong with that. It could certainly be good news for readership, circulation, and I'm not even going to harp on about Alt alienating readers who were interested in Carine's vision because they can very well pick up her new magazine debuting this fall. What does bother me is the repetition. What does bother me is that I can hardly differentiate one issue from the next. What does bother me is that because of this, I can't bring myself to actually buy this magazine anymore.

Alt's allegiance to certain photographers and models is a big issue for me, and for as dull as the magazine has become she doesn't seem to understand the idea of moderation. I don't like Giampaolo Sgura's brand of photography. The Zoom, Beauty, Jewelry sections are a big fat miss for me month after month. They are unbearably catalogue-looking. And I wish she would tone down the use of Hans Feurer, a photographer whose style I do love but the pages of VP have become saturated with it. The same models shot by the same photographers month after month... what's the point? One could argue that Carine did the same, but she was always a champion of new faces and I think that the photographers she loved did some of their best work while she was there.

Despite how it might seem, I do not place full responsibility on Alt since this is the collaborative effort of a large number of people. If I were CN and VP was making money then why mess with a good thing? But that doesn't mean I want to read the magazine.

[Thefrenchy]

I voted yes, simply because she was not made to be an editor-in-chief. That woman is "just" a stylist. Not someone who should have been given the responsability of a magazine (I'm talking creativity-wise since I've no idea of how well or badly her issues have been selling so far...).

Every single issue under Alt has something missing: a soul. I'm a subscriber and have been for four years now. I always have pleasure looking back at my old issues, but I haven't flicked through more than once at any issue Emmanuelle has put up. As much as I can't stand her, Roitfeld had something that Alt doesn't seem to have: a clear and consistent vision of what she wanted VP to be. Alt doesn't have that; or if she does, it's pretty dull.

I hated Roitfeld latest issues, thinking they were getting more and more boring and uninspired. Therefore I welcomed the news of her departure with hope for the magazine, looking forward to a fresher direction. This, until I found out Emmanuelle Alt was given the job. While she did produce some of VP's best editorials, her work became more and more of the same ol' stuff when the magazine was still under Carine... Rock chick, desert, I&V, Isabel Marant, Balmain. That seems to be the only thing she can do. It was fun for a while, but not anymore.

Someone mentioned the problem in the art direction and I definitely agree. I haven't liked how VP has looked ever since Fabien Baron left... If Alt has to stay, a change of the creative director would be more than welcome...

Finally, I must say her work is not bad per se. It's just dull. She really has to shake herself up and try to establish a strong vision for that magazine. Style less, get a new team, different models, different photographers. I want her to do something out of her comfort zone. I want her to make me feel excited by the idea of getting a new issue. If she can't do that within the next year and her sales figures are not so good, then she should probably leave.

Now let me go back to mourning the fact that the job was not given to Le Figaro's Virginie Mouzat !

[Katharrrina]

I honestly don't see anything wrong with her work. To me this Vogue just feels cleaner. As for her approach to sexy provocation as someone mentioned here, I don't think it's lacking either. I'm actually kind of fed up with sex in fashion at the moment. I'm gonna take a nap, call me back later.
What I do hate about the new Vogue Paris is their website. I don't know whose idea it was but I find it horrible to navigate and I barely ever use it, whereas I used to spend a lot of time on the old one. If it's Alt's, then oh my God, she needs to get fired!

[Naen]

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Originally Posted by Thefrenchy Someone mentioned the problem in the art direction and I definitely agree. I haven't liked how VP has looked ever since Fabien Baron left...

My sentiments exactly!

Nonetheless, I don't wish for her to leave, only to step back and reconsider her target audience, there's already a fair number of cliché editions of Vogue, it pains me to see VP became one too; a low-key approach doesn't necessarily have to be commercial.
With models and photographers being a holding pattern it obstructs any kind of possible progress. Art direction isn't helping either.

May issue being the exception, I haven't felt the urge to buy any other since she took over.

[Heroin_Chic]

YES. She should leave! She has taken the edge out of french Vogue.

[Chanelcouture09]

^But houses like Vuitton and Gucci don't want edge, they want profit, the advertisers are more important than the reader in all fairness and Condé Nast love Emmanuelle because she isn't controversial or self centered which is how I felt Carine can be at times, she even had a portrait of herself in her office for crying out loud.
She even upset a big name - Balenciaga with that supposed MaxMara story, everyone forgets that one.

It makes me wonder if Emmanuelle has received any hate mail, since Carine was regularly receiving it from readers and organizations who disagreed with stories she put out in her magazine, I doubt Emmanuelle has but it would interest me, she's low key and good at what she does, but I think she needs to surround herself with some fresh team members, instead of a group of her friends, such as Geraldine and Olivier.

I agree with someone who mentioned when Fabien left... That was when VP took a downward spiral and everyone began to moan.

I'd love to see M/M Paris contribute to VP.

Who was the Art Director before Olivier Lalanne ?

[Melancholybaby]

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Originally Posted by Chanelcouture09 I'd love to see M/M Paris contribute to VP

I would love to see that too. VP needs a strong creative director to pull everything together. When Carine started the editorials were strong but the look of the magazine was not the best and that changed when Fabien came in 2003...he changed the fonts, the design everything and that's what neeeds to happen again, and in order for that to happen someone must direct it and Emmanuelle is definitely not the right person.

[missbluejean]

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Originally Posted by Chanelcouture09 I agree with someone who mentioned when Fabien left... That was when VP took a downward spiral and everyone began to moan.

Yeah but it was still good magazine imho, it was really after Marie-Amelie Sauve's departure when everything became too redundant.

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Who was the Art Director before Olivier Lalanne ?

Germain Chauveau is currently the AD. Before him it was Johan Svensson, and before him it was Joseph Logan.


I voted no. As previously mentioned, they just need a creative director. That position has been void for too long.

[lili la tigresse]

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Originally Posted by TheItGirl I don't love Alt and was actually really disappointed with some of her issues but I can't imagine a better editor for VP at the moment. She is what Parisian Vogue is all about - a strong stylish woman who knows what she is doing, enjoys herself and genuinely loves fashion. Yes, Carine's version of Vogue was more artful and interesting to talk about but Alt's Vogue is what a real Parisian woman wants and needs.

Well, that's funny because I'm actually a real Parisian woman and I think Vogue Paris is the worst magazine about fashion I know.
I have so many magazines at home, I put way too much money on them, but I have VP for free and I don't read it/look into it. There's nothing interesting about it, it's really a waste of money and paper.
And Carine's version wasn't much better.

[Lena]

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Originally Posted by lili la tigresse I think Vogue Paris is the worst magazine about fashion I know. I have so many magazines at home, I put way too much money on them, but I have VP for free and I don't read it/look into it. There's nothing interesting about it, it's really a waste of money and paper. And Carine's version wasn't much better.

Bravo mlle lili de Paris
finally someone is saying a huge Parisian truth
everyone i know hates VogueParis !!!

cant see huge difference between Alt & Carine either