Censorship

stracka · 19-09-2006

I am apalled. Shocked. Utterly dissappointed.
I have been censored.
My post has been deleted.
What is the purpose of this forum? Is it not to exchange views and opinions? This is a catastrophe of the highest order.
And I thought we were living in a democratic world.
Now I know...freedom of speech is an illusion.

Yanka · 19-09-2006

I have been censored here many times. The last time was in Anna Kurnikova's forum. Everyone was calling her ugly because she lost weight, i defended her, as the result my post was editer, theirs wasn't

~Angela~ · 19-09-2006

This is not the correct place for this. If you have a problem with something like that it should be pm'd to a MOD.

kanita · 19-09-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by stracka

I am apalled. Shocked. Utterly dissappointed.
I have been censored.
My post has been deleted.
What is the purpose of this forum? Is it not to exchange views and opinions? This is a catastrophe of the highest order.
And I thought we were living in a democratic world.
Now I know...freedom of speech is an illusion.

What did you say, to be censored? A name of a thread was changed one time, but I was lucky that it stayed.But indeed, this is not exactly the place for this....

xlevix · 19-09-2006

i definatly think this whole censorship thing going on at TFS is lame..
and i kind of don't care if this is the wrong place to say that.

style_savy · 19-09-2006

I think to a degree the cencorship is definitely an appealing side to this forum. It keeps things sophisticated and on subject. The odd time it doesn't make too much sense.

**Meg** · 20-09-2006

IF you have any problems, you are more than free to PM a mod. I'm sure lots of people know that I am very open to receiving PM's from people who do not understand why their post was deleted or are unhappy. However, being a member of a forum that has over 50,000 members means that we cannot let members run rampant. The post that was deleted of yours stracka was one where you criticized Rachel Bilson but then went on to say that anyone who found her attractive was brainwashed and stupid. Why is this against tfs guidelines? Because inciting hateful remarks against our members is not allowed. It offends members and takes the conversation away from Rachel's style. This does not make it censoreship. You are entitled to free speech in the Constitution but there are parameters on that. The comments following yours were also deleted. It is NOT easy to run a forum of this size and it takes a lot of time. Sure, we make mistakes sometimes as mods but overall, I don't see anywhere else on the net of this size and calibre being run better. So in the future, if you have a problem, please PM a mod.

stracka · 20-09-2006

I would appreciate if you do not paraphrase me, but quote me, if you must. You got the point of my infamous (and censored!) post completely wrong. I never said that people who find Rachel Bilson attractive are stupid. My point was that calling someone beautiful (when they clearly are not) just because this someone is famous, has a role in a B-league teenage soap opera for example, or is featured on the cover of TeenVogue, is ridiculous, to say the least.
There is a clear distinction between being attractive and being beautiful. Attractiveness is a subjective notion, whereas beauty is most certainly not, or shouldn't be. Beauty has to meet certain aesthetic standards, which are not dictated by the media or whoever.
Here's a question (I hope this won't get me banned): When you pick up a copy of a beauty magazine (or any magazine, for that matter), are you capable of seeing that not every model or celebrity is in fact beautiful? Are you listening to your inner aestetic voice, or are you just parroting what the culture wants you to think?

Label Basher · 20-09-2006

Sorry stracka but give it up these are the rules.

This is a FASHION forum and this thread is about celeb style. Of course fans are going to say so and so is beautiful as they do think that. Deal with it or don't visit that thread and upset other members. Easy.

Remember - Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

If you want to rag on celebs then this site isn't the place to do it. You could go to other blogs like Perezhilton or Gofugyourself who's purpose is to degrade celebs if that is more interesting to you than discussing some celebs style and looks.

stracka · 20-09-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Label Basher

Sorry stracka but give it up these are the rules.

This is a FASHION forum and this thread is about celeb style. Of course fans are going to say so and so is beautiful as they do think that. Deal with it or don't visit that thread and upset other members. Easy.

Remember - Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

If you want to rag on celebs then this site isn't the place to do it. You could go to other blogs like Perezhilton or Gofugyourself who's purpose is to degrade celebs if that is more interesting to you than discussing some celebs style and looks.

1. There is a difference between bashing and constructive criticism.
2. There is the beauty that is in the eye of the beholder and there is...beauty.

Nyx · 20-09-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by stracka

1. There is a difference between bashing and constructive criticism.
2. There is the beauty that is in the eye of the beholder and there is...beauty.

3. And then, there are board rules. Let it go already.

**iluvjeisa** · 20-09-2006

stracka, I think you may find this thread, "What is Beauty?", interesting:

http://www.thefashionspot.com/forums...ghlight=beauty

mundodabolsa · 20-09-2006

I try really hard not to get involved in arguements, but this one merits a comment.

Sure, the internet is a public place, but these forums are privately owned by someone who has the right to set rules and decide how to run their forum. Said person is inviting you to participate, this is not some right you are granted for living in this world. Therefore, you have to abide by the rules, and if you don't want to, simply don't participate here, it's not a requirement.

One of the reasons I do like TFS is exactly for its organization and control. Most internet forums are chaotic and full of people just trying to get into petty fights.

truebluejen · 20-09-2006

Well said Mundo

What makes you think you have a better idea of who is beautiful then others? Everyone has different views on what makes someone beautiful. It would be pretty boring if everyone had the same views

BohemianBeauty22 · 20-09-2006

I thought this thread was about Celebs with Bad Name wearing t-shirts.

With that being said, shouldn't this thread either be closed or deleted completely?

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iluvjeisa clever ain't wise Mod Squad Leader Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: femme Posts: 13,618	stracka, I think you may find this thread, "What is Beauty?", interesting: http://www.thefashionspot.com/forums...ghlight=beauty __________________ Beauty is a warm gun Her Famed Warm Gun Last edited by iluvjeisa; 20-09-2006 at 05:37 AM.

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mundodabolsa still here Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: nyc Gender: femme Posts: 6,346	I try really hard not to get involved in arguements, but this one merits a comment. Sure, the internet is a public place, but these forums are privately owned by someone who has the right to set rules and decide how to run their forum. Said person is inviting you to participate, this is not some right you are granted for living in this world. Therefore, you have to abide by the rules, and if you don't want to, simply don't participate here, it's not a requirement. One of the reasons I do like TFS is exactly for its organization and control. Most internet forums are chaotic and full of people just trying to get into petty fights. __________________

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truebluejen V.I.P. Join Date: May 2005 Location: North of Scotland Gender: femme Posts: 4,083	Well said Mundo What makes you think you have a better idea of who is beautiful then others? Everyone has different views on what makes someone beautiful. It would be pretty boring if everyone had the same views __________________ **Heather MarksGeorgia FrostJessica Stam Sasha PivovarovaFreja Beha* Brigid McGaw

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BohemianBeauty22 backstage pass Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Usa Gender: femme Posts: 919	I thought this thread was about Celebs with Bad Name wearing t-shirts. With that being said, shouldn't this thread either be closed or deleted completely? __________________ *~~Drench Yourself In Words Unspoken, Live Your Life With Arms Wide Open, Today Is Where Your Book Begins, The Rest Is Still Unwritten~~*

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stracka windowshopping Join Date: Jan 2006 Gender: femme Posts: 5	Censorship I am apalled. Shocked. Utterly dissappointed. I have been censored. My post has been deleted. What is the purpose of this forum? Is it not to exchange views and opinions? This is a catastrophe of the highest order. And I thought we were living in a democratic world. Now I know...freedom of speech is an illusion.

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Yanka trendsetter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In a room with a view Gender: femme Posts: 1,240	I have been censored here many times. The last time was in Anna Kurnikova's forum. Everyone was calling her ugly because she lost weight, i defended her, as the result my post was editer, theirs wasn't

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~Angela~ trendsetter Join Date: Jun 2005 Gender: femme Posts: 1,270	This is not the correct place for this. If you have a problem with something like that it should be pm'd to a MOD.

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xlevix scenester Join Date: Aug 2005 Gender: homme Posts: 74	i definatly think this whole censorship thing going on at TFS is lame.. and i kind of don't care if this is the wrong place to say that.

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style_savy V.I.P. Join Date: May 2005 Location: Vancouver, Canada Gender: femme Posts: 34,880	I think to a degree the cencorship is definitely an appealing side to this forum. It keeps things sophisticated and on subject. The odd time it doesn't make too much sense. __________________ ~ Fashion Blogger ~ Updated: February 8, 2013

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Meg inspired contemplation Mod Squad Leader Join Date: May 2003 Location: London by way of North America Gender: femme Posts: 17,060	IF you have any problems, you are more than free to PM a mod. I'm sure lots of people know that I am very open to receiving PM's from people who do not understand why their post was deleted or are unhappy. However, being a member of a forum that has over 50,000 members means that we cannot let members run rampant. The post that was deleted of yours stracka was one where you criticized Rachel Bilson but then went on to say that anyone who found her attractive was brainwashed and stupid. Why is this against tfs guidelines? Because inciting hateful remarks against our members is not allowed. It offends members and takes the conversation away from Rachel's style. This does not make it censoreship. You are entitled to free speech in the Constitution but there are parameters on that. The comments following yours were also deleted. It is NOT easy to run a forum of this size and it takes a lot of time. Sure, we make mistakes sometimes as mods but overall, I don't see anywhere else on the net of this size and calibre being run better. So in the future, if you have a problem, please PM a mod. Last edited by Meg; 20-09-2006 at 02:28 AM.

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Label Basher V.I.P. Join Date: Feb 2005 Gender: femme Posts: 12,019	Sorry stracka but give it up these are the rules. This is a FASHION forum and this thread is about celeb style. Of course fans are going to say so and so is beautiful as they do think that. Deal with it or don't visit that thread and upset other members. Easy. *Remember - Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.* If you want to rag on celebs then this site isn't the place to do it. You could go to other blogs like Perezhilton or Gofugyourself who's purpose is to degrade celebs if that is more interesting to you than discussing some celebs style and looks. __________________ ROBBER - Get down on the ground. Face down. C'mon. CHER - Oh, no. You don't understand, this is an Alaïa. ROBBER - An a-what-a? CHER - It's like a totally important designer. Last edited by Label Basher; 20-09-2006 at 03:57 AM.

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