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18-03-2012
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Now i understand it's not real moderator send me messages, i didn't knew that. But, there is always a but, the real moderator delete posts, am i right?


And about what i ask before, is there a possibility to send in pm the thread where the post was deleted and/or the original post, just to let users know what was it. Maybe someone know how to change this, and can do this change in the sending pm system.
I can answer the question about the orginal post:


Unfortnately, the system we use to delete posts does not allow us to send a copy of the original post ... and that can not be changed. That is why the notice gives you a link to the thread and a "Reason" ... most people can figure it out. And if they can't, that is why the notice says to contact a moderator ... because we can still see the deleted post and tell the posting member what happened.


We have a second system that we sometimes use when we feel that a member does not understand the rules and we want to make sure they get a copy of the actual rule they broke .... it's the Reminders and Warnings system. That second system does provide a copy of the orginal post... but it takes a lot more work for the moderators (about 5 minutes as opposed to 5 seconds) and it also will leave a notice at the top of your profile every time we use it. I don't think our members want all those "reminders" and "warnings" on their profile, for very small problems like this one. Just so you know, only you and moderators can see the reminders and warnings but still, it would be annoying if every time you made a small mistake like this, another one was put up there.

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Hello,

A while back, I found a photoshopped image of Gemma Ward someone created with Gemma’s face over Kate Moss' face on the cover of the march 2012 issue of W magazine. I thought it was really cute & decided to share it with others on her thread. It got deleted & when I got the reminder, I read it to understand why, & it just said to "read the community rules". I reread it twice & I still don't understand why. I sourced it & everything... Plus, I've seen hundreds of photoshopped "fan pics" in a LOT of other threads so i'm a little confused & hoping someone could explain

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You are probably right ... this specific rule about photoshopped pictures is not in the main "Community Rules". But the Community Rules do have a paragraph right near the top that says:
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All information submitted to The Fashion Spot Forums (stories, articles, etc.) must be from a credible source (newspaper, online magazine, fashion magazine, books, photo agency, model agencies, etc.). Gossip is hearsay and these forums are provided for our member to discuss credible information. Therefore, we ask our members to have reliable sources for any information that they contribute to the discussions.
This can be interpreted to mean that photoshopped images ... images that have been changed from the original ... are obviously not from credible sources, since they are not real. A credible source would be a newspaper, magazine or web site that does not traffic in unsubstantiated gossip and altered images. The need to be known for publishing actual facts and real pictures in order for us to consider it to be a "credible source".

In addition, I think there are some rules about photoshopped/altered images that is posted somewhere ... posibly in the Supporting Cast and/or the Star Style forum etiquette/rules thread pinned near the top.

We don't usually allow photoshopped images for a few reasons:

- We are mainly a fashion forum, so those sort of images don't do anything to further our main cause ... fashion. It's fun, yeah ... but nothing to do with fashion.

- Often, these types of altered photos are very disturbing to the persons depicted and tFS does not want to become that type of site. We are not here as a gossip site ... and we discourage anything that is not founded in truth.

- We respect the copyrights of the original photographers and the magazines, and it's hightly unlikely that they authorized anyone to alter their images in any way. We hear from them all the time ... so we know they are watching us. We want to stay in their good graces, or they will not allow our members to post any of their pictures at all. That would devestate us ... and basically shut us down. So we try to be proactive and act in their best interests and protect thier legal rights as much as possible.

Of course ... we can't be everywhere, all the time, so we miss things. All moderating is done by spot checking ... and sometimes we catch it and sometimes we don't.

Hope this explains the policy and the reasons behind it.

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One of my posts was deleted because it used a "prohibited image host (porn server)". It was hosted on ImageBam, but I labeled the gallery as having adult content due to full frontal female nudity and some highly sexual imagery. I've hosted other images with nudity on ImageBam and labeled the gallery as having adult content with no problems mentioned in the past. What should I do? I assume that re-uploading the pictures and not labeling them as adult content would work, and if that is the case, should I re-upload all of the images with nudity that I have uploaded and labeled as adult content also?

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One of my posts was deleted because it used a "prohibited image host (porn server)". It was hosted on ImageBam, but I labeled the gallery as having adult content due to full frontal female nudity and some highly sexual imagery. I've hosted other images with nudity on ImageBam and labeled the gallery as having adult content with no problems mentioned in the past. What should I do? I assume that re-uploading the pictures and not labeling them as adult content would work, and if that is the case, should I re-upload all of the images with nudity that I have uploaded and labeled as adult content also?
You can't host pictures on ImageBam. You can post the pictures as attachments if you want.
More infos in these threads:
http://forums.thefashionspot.com/f44...ure-19543.html
http://forums.thefashionspot.com/f44...king-9480.html

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Thank you debora25! You are correct.

And here is where you can find detailed information about the rules about "porn" hosting sites (and Image Bam in particular), in the Announcements forum: Hosting Images on Sites that feature Porn Ads ... Not Allowed!

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Oh crap. I'm so sorry. I didn't know that ImageBam was specifically not allowed. I had seen other people use it here, so I just assumed that it was okay. I also have AdBlock Plus, so I don't see any ads, so I didn't know that there were porn ads there. My most sincere apologies. I will re-host and re-post all of the stuff I have there as soon as possible.

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^No problem. I'm just sorry that it happened to begin with. I've just finished moving all the pictures to a new hosting site (That happens to be WAY more user-friendly than ImageBam.) and re-posting them here. It was no big deal at all.

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Can we look into the Victoria's Secret, Etc Etc thread?

We were discussing plastic surgery, and posts were edited/deleted for being off-topic.

Who is defining that as being off-topic?

here are the rules, as stated in the first post of the thread:


Thread Rules:
1. No model bashing.
2. Negative opinions about models are allowed, but you must back up any negative opinion with precise facts about why you feel that way.
3. State that opinion only once, then move on ... do not mention it again.
4. All other tFS apply as usual, please keep in mind that just because this is the Victoria's Secret Thread does not mean that weight talk in any way/shape/form is allowed.



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Off-topic discussion is not allowed in any thread, even if that is not mentioned in the rules in the first post.
The reason they were removed has nothing to do with weight talk. Speculations on whether a model got something done or not lead to nowhere, you can post tons of before-after pictures, and it still a very subjective topic. Imagine if every member starts posting which models he thinks that got this or that done...It could go way off the track.

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Correct.

And I'd like to add that all of Supporting Cast is supposed to be about the models' work and their personal style ... but not about surgeries, real or rumoured. That is always off topic in SC. Those rules at the beginning of the thread were written for specific recurring issues that we have had in there .... but they are in addition to the general rules about staying on topic.

Remember ... tFS is about fashion, first and foremost. Even Supporting Cast is not intended to be a forum for gossip about models. You should find other places like bellazon if this is your interest.

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I have had some of my post deleted along the years I’ve been a member of TFS. It’s fine with me, I agree that there should be some norms to follow, especially in certain delicate topics to avoid controversies, misunderstandings and hurting feelings. However, sometimes I think those rules are applied to strictly and with nonsense.

To make myself clear I will point out an example: On the thread Thoughts on fashion bloggers we were discussing around the topic and some ask which other blogs may be interesting to read or follow because we were mainly talking bad critics about blogs and bloggers. I and some other members made suggestions… and I have just received a message telling me that conversation has been deleted… and I wonder why because I don’t see how we went off-topic.

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I have had some of my post deleted along the years I’ve been a member of TFS. It’s fine with me, I agree that there should be some norms to follow, especially in certain delicate topics to avoid controversies, misunderstandings and hurting feelings. However, sometimes I think those rules are applied to strictly and with nonsense.

To make myself clear I will point out an example: On the thread Thoughts on fashion bloggers we were discussing around the topic and some ask which other blogs may be interesting to read or follow because we were mainly talking bad critics about blogs and bloggers. I and some other members made suggestions… and I have just received a message telling me that conversation has been deleted… and I wonder why because I don’t see how we went off-topic.
You were told in the auto-PM to read the rules for this sub-forum. Did you? The rules for Fashion In Depth are a little stricter than the other sub-forums: http://forums.thefashionspot.com/sho...81&postcount=1

In short, we expect a little more discussion and thoughtful commentary there. Short quips are removed, as are comments that don't aid or lend themselves to any type of in depth discussion.

Your question about blogs would have been better suited for this thread: "Your Favorite Fashion Blogs to Read":
http://forums.thefashionspot.com/f58...-54778-27.html

In fact, I will restore and move the posts over there now.

If we had not removed yours, and others, commentary the Thoughts on Fashion Bloggers could have quickly became a mirror image of that very thread.


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I would like to know how to get an entire thread deleted. I do not think it is fair to have the Vogue adopts 16yr and over modeling thread and not talk about the MAIN point of the article. I am well aware of the forum rules and tried very hard to avoid weight talk in my post.

If this is the case, that thread should either be closed completely or edited to ONLY reflect the age rule and nothing about body image or eating disorders. Because honestly, to not talk about it is like having an elephant in the room. In my original post I just wanted to make it be known that age doesn't matter when it comes to whether or not a person "looks" like they have an eating disorder. Which is why it is ridiculous for the vogue editors to adopt such a rule.

This is a very touchy subject for me so I just want people to understand my point on the matter. I am in no way shape or form talking about "weight" and would therefore have my post put back or that thread edited or gone completely

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