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29-06-2005
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can dark circles really go with such treatment? I thought dark circles are genetic as well as fatigue factors...

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06-08-2005
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has anyone tried it? i wanna know if it really works before spending this much money on this??

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10 hrs of sleep a day might make your body want to crave more sleep and make the dark circles larger

for a week, try this:

sleep only 8 hrs a day (regardless of what your body tells you)
no caffeine or alcohol (they make the dark circles darker)
and massage your dark circles a couple times a day for a few minutes with some light non-greasy moisturizer

they should improve

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I asked my dermatologist and she said that it does not work. Since it is marketed as a "make up" and not a "drug" it does not have to meet FDA regulations (a.k.a it doesn't have to actuallyw ork).

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18-01-2006
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dark shadows under eyes
I was gonna put a post on about this very subject. I'm really pale and I've always had really thin skin so I look like I've got a road map on my chest and just lately under my eyes are terrible. I haven't got bags but it's dark and I can see blue veins (I'm painting a lovely picture of myself here, lol). The problem is though I put concealer underneath and it just looks really white which I think looks worse so I can't win. Anyone else with my complexion found a solution?

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18-01-2006
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1) use a corrector specifically for blue shadows/veins.
i think an apricot corrector works.. not totally sure.. google 'corrector' to find it. i'd suggest a product made by Ben Nye.

2) i don't have your complexion, but i have your problem.
i'm brown-skinned with dark purple-blue shadows.
i finally found a cream foundation that matches my skin perfectly
AND i can use as a concealer at the same time.
on my face i use a sheer layer of the foundation
and under my eyes i used 2 layers.
unlike other foundations, layering on top doesn't make it darker/change the colour.

The foundation is Cover FX which was created in a hospital here in Canada for burn victims.

i'll google their site and post it next.

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Ben Nye and CoverFX
1) Ben Nye products http://www.fxsupply.com/bn_catalog/bn_neutralizers.html
This is just an example of a supplier. See if there's a supplier in your area... most likely a theatrical supply store.

Blue Neutralizer
Conceal blue-hued discolorations, such as veins, tattoos, bruises, and deep eye circles with this unique palette.

Mellow Orange®
Exceptional shades to neutralize blue-green face and body imperfections including veins, tattoos, bruises, and deep under-eye discolorations. Included in Concealer Palette, Cover-All Wheel, and Neutralizing Crayon.

2) CoverFX http://www.coverfx.com/products/coverfx.html




Since 1985 Lee Graff, a corrective makeup specialist at the CosMedic Clinic at Toronto's Sunnybrook & Women's College Health Sciences Centre, has worked with thousands of patients with various types of skin conditions. By helping them to normalize their appearance with the use of corrective cosmetics, Lee has helped these patients cope more effectively with their condition and face the world with confidence.

Finding the right products for her clients, however, proved to be a frustrating ordeal for Lee. Clients with sensitive skin, such as those with rosacea, acne psoriasis and eczema, or other skin disorders, could not tolerate the existing products and Lee found that she often had to mix two or three shades together to get a natural-looking effect, something that patients would be unable or unwilling to do outside the clinic. "Many of the products available also looked thick, cakey and unnatural, creating a mask-like effect that was as visually distracting as the actual skin condition," says Lee.

So, in 2000, after 15 years of exhaustive and fruitless searching, Lee made a critical decision. She would have to develop a product line that would offer her clients a natural look without irritating sensitive skin and available in a range of shades to suit any skin tone.

Lee consulted with Victor Casale, a supporter of the CosMedic Clinic for over 10 years via product customization for Lee's patients. Victor, through his 20 years of experience in the cosmetic industry primarily at M.A.C, recognized the need of such dermatological supported colour cosmeceuticals in the marketplace.

Lee enlisted the help of Dr. Neil Shear, Chief of Dermatology at Sunnybrook and a renowned clinical pharmacologist. Dr. Shear had established the CosMedic Clinic in 1985 to provide corrective makeup services to his patients with rosacea and other skin conditions. Since the Clinic's inception, thousands of men and women have literally had their lives changed through the use of corrective makeup, allowing their skin flaws to be concealed and boosting their sense of self-esteem. In March 2000, the CosMedic became the first Rosacea Clinic of Excellence in Canada.

Combining Lee's experience with Neil Shear's medical expertise and the technical knowledge of Jenny Frankel, a chemical engineer with 10 years of cosmetic formulation experience, primarily at M.A.C., the group began developing their product in a small lab within the Dermatology Clinic.

"Neil and I would tell Jenny exactly what we wanted. She would go into the lab and make up a test batch, which we would then try on patients in the CosMedic Clinic. We tested the product on more than 1500 men and women, choosing mainly rosacea patients because of the extreme sensitivity of their skin," says Lee. "We knew if our product didn't irritate the sensitive skin of a rosacea patient, then anyone would be able to tolerate it without a problem."

Jenny perfected the formulation as well as the global colour palette, developing over 40 different shades. This meant that, for the first time, patients of virtually any ethnicity or skin tone were able to find their perfect match with a single shade. So began the COVER FX story.

Initially, COVER FX was available only through the outpatient pharmacy in Sunnybrook & Women's College Health Sciences Centre. But, with patients coming to the CosMedic Clinic from all over the province, there was a need to make COVER FX more commercially available. And, as Lee was called upon to train corrective makeup specialists in clinics across the country, the demand for COVER FX products grew nationally.

From the little lab in Sunnybrook to retail outlets across Canada and the U.S., COVER FX has grown into a line of foundations, powders, bronzers and application tools that offer those with or without a skin condition a naturally flawless looking complexion. While COVER FX was initially developed to help mask skin disorders, these superior-quality cosmetics can help everyone achieve a smooth, even skin tone and look their absolute best.

The COVER FX line consists of cream, water-based liquid and powder foundations, as well as setting powders, iridescent bronzers, a lip treatment and professional-quality application tools. COVER FX Skin Care Inc. also invests heavily in training, to ensure that cosmetics staff in retail outlets carrying the line can perfectly colour-match their clients and teach them the simple application techniques that will allow them to reproduce that flawless look at home.

"My dream was to help men and women with skin conditions face the world with confidence by offering them makeup products with therapeutic benefits that would perfectly match their skin tone, be affordable, well tolerated by even the most sensitive skins and achieve a perfectly natural, flawless effect," says Lee. "And, after receiving feedback from thousands of people who use COVER FX products every day, I'm proud to say we've done it!"

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18-01-2006
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I heard somewhere that light pink was a good corrector for this.. but I'm not sure.. I've had dark circles my whole life.. I just know that you shouldn't try yellow... it doesn't work

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Touche Eclat by YSL is good for the under eye area ( its a light peachy pink)

If you want something with more coverage try Laura Mercier's Secret Camouflage (applied with a bruch).

Laura Mercier also has a product designed for the under eye area : Secret Concealer (a softer concealer than Secret Camouflage)

If you have a tendency to dry eye under eye area I'd stick w. the Secret Concealer - but if you are oily Secret Camouflage will probably work better for you

Luna is right yellow is a bad idea - I use MAC's select concealer in yellow in the inner corner of my eye (a slight dab) when I look tired - it's an instant "eye opener"

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Thanks for the links, I'll have a read of them later. I'm probably using the wrong shade and that might be why it's looking worse.

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I have the same problem with the dark shadows and i got so exited the i found this product by benefit


With fading action! Fade those dark circles... this amazing treatment with extracts of orange, apple fruit and japonica leaf really works! 'Pack your bags, take off your shades', because eyecon de-puffs under the eyes and fades dark circles while it nourishes and smoothes the entire eye area.

(www.benefitcosmetics.com)

Doesn't it sound amazing. Usually all of the eye creams are for anti-aging also and sense I'm only 18 I don't want to start using those products to soon.
But this product sounds perfect!
Has anyone tried it?

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20-01-2006
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Someone wrote to Allure magazine asking the same question and it was responded to on page 68 of he February 2006 issue.

The Allure make up artist responded with the following.

Quote:
Layering products creates natural-looking coverage. Start with a foundation or tinted moisturizer with warm beige or yellow undertones since cool, pink-based shades will emphasize your veins. Next, pat a creamy concealer-- liquid formulas will be too sheer—onto the blue areas with your finger, which warms the makeup and helps it blend into the skin. Then, set everything with a light dusting of translucent loose powder. If you still notice that your skin has a blueish tint, dab on more concealer with a small brush and top with powder (if you overapply, sweep any cakey areas with a damp makeup sponge). You can also play up you lips or eyes with a bold color (just avoid purple tones) to draw attention away from your veins.

Make-up Artist: Pat McGrath

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The limited edition Catherine Deneuve for MAC line has a new products for the under eye area (text from MACcosmetics.com):
Specially created for the M·A·C Beauty Icon 3/Cathrine Deneuve collection: three exclusive shades of Studio Lights – a softly tinted, sheer, reflective, semi-fluid colour used on the under-eye area to help brighten the look of dark circles. Can also be used to highlight and contour key areas of the face. Limited edition.
5ml / 0.17 US oz


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21-01-2006
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My face - before and after CoverFX
OK so in the name of 'science'

1) i'm displaying my bare face to show you my shadows
(which that day wasn't too bad at all)
..... no one ever sees me w/out makeup....
just you lucky bugs.

and then


2) my face with Cover FX only... no other makeup... no powder either.
i applied a sheer layer over my entire face,
then 2 more layers under my eyes.

Caveat: i used my fingertips (not my brush)
and didn't blend as well as i normally do.

Honestly - i couldn't live w/out this product.. NOTHING matches my skin & covers up the shadows.

Let the gawking and horrified shrieking begin.
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Does anyone recommend YSL touche eclat for someone who is 18? Please also recommend a tone... I have Gemma Ward-colour skin

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