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08-04-2010
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Hi! I'm a fairly new poster, even tho I've been religiously reading this boards for years now. Please excuse me if this is the wrong place to post this but I need advice on skin care, and thought you could help me.

I'm turning 30 next week (Agh, I said it xP), and I really want to intensify the attention I give to my skin and body. They have both been neglected for the past six months, because I've been unemployed, and developed a really low self esteem, and a hint of depression I'm currently fighting (hard! heh)

So, I really want to take charge, and feel better, improve my health, and my appearance. And as everyone here seem really in the know, I'd appreciate any advice you could give me.

I've gone back to drinking two cups of tea everyday, plus plenty of water, but I still drink two to three beers each weekend. I wonder if I should quit alcohol completely, or this amount is not something to worry about.

Plus, I want to invest in some skincare, also body but specially for my face, and really don't know what to buy. Reading about retinoids and peptids makes my head spin, but I really want something that will help me with my problems. They are basically dullness, and the fact that I lost a lot of weight a few years ago, and my always full, round face now is a bit... "sagged", my cheeks draw a line downwards that I hate, and I don't know what to do about it...

(this is a really really bad, no make-up, really tired picture for reference... please do not think I look like that usually xP)

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Also routines, foods, sports (should I take ballet? yoga? damn I'm lost...)... I'd really love any avice you could give me.

I am hesitant about starting a new thread, but maybe is the best idea?

(And sorry for the long post....)

 
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Ugh, I'm sorry, it seems I am unable to learn how to properly post pictures... I wont try again as not to embarass myself, but if you copy and paste the link, I believe you'll see the picture. If not, you're not missing much, trust me, LOL...

 
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^You have nice skin, don't ruin it Nothing can be done about sagging except for surgery, but maybe your face isn't exactly sagging (I can't see any sagging!), maybe you're just not used to seeing yourself a couple of kg's lighter?

Dull skin? Exfoliate (NOT with a physical exfoliant, you know, anything with grains in is a no-go). I love Mario Badescu's Glycolic Foaming Cleanser.

If you have any sun damage, use a Vitamin C serum (I think Murad has some good stuff).

Just find a moisturizer you like, really...the one I like is super cheap (Embryolisse Lait-Creme Concentre), it's €10 for 75 ml and it lasts forever. Skin care doesn't have to be expensive. Don't buy into expensive moisturizers unless it has active ingredients.

Oh, and a gentle every-day cleanser. A lot of people like Clarins and Dermalogica, I use a cleansing oil from Shu Uemura...it's SUPER important to cleanse in the evening, never in the morning (unless you forgot...)

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Kalenya, firstly I think it's really wonderful what you've said! I think everyone has points where they feel down & don't take as good care of themselves, but sometimes taking charge of this aspect can help you in other parts of your life. Secondly, your skin looks great! You're very lucky to have an even skin tone

For basic skincare, you don't say what kind of skin type you have (oily, dry...) but yes exfoliating will help with brightness & removing dull skin, you just need to not overdo it. Retinoids, antioxidants and sunscreen are the gold standards for anti-aging. For retinoids I would recommend Avene Eluage (this does do some "exfoliating" also). Sunscreen is trial and error but European formulas such as Avene, La Roche Posay and Bioderma offer superior protection. Look for UVA (aging) and UVB (burning) protection - you need 1/4 teaspoon for your face and don't forget hands and neck because those give away age very quickly. You may find that using a sunscreen means you don't need an extra day moisturiser as well. Vitamin C - La Roche Posay Active C is supposed to be nice, and in general C is used best in the morning because it aids the protection of your sunscreen - retinoids used best at night because they can break down in sunlight. Oh for body, I like Korres body butters for very dry skin

I wouldn't worry too much about the beer - enjoy it Although red wine has antioxidants and other health benefits if you wanted to switch! Your diet should have lots of oily fish, dark leafy greens - the more colourful the food the better. Blueberries are a particularly good fruit too. Exercise will be good both for your skin & your mood so choose something you'll enjoy.

Good luck! Let us know how you get on

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LOL, The_Ida, Thanks! I don't know if sagging is the right word, as english is not my first language, or maybe is just what you say, that I'm not used to the shape of my face as it is now...

I don't have sun damage, "luckily" you could say, but its mainly because I had some problems (melanoma problems, heh) two years ago, and any kind of tan is banished from my existence, LOL. I sit in the sun ten minutes before ten AM every morning, and thats it for me. Sometimes I blame my skin's dullness to that, and i'm tempted to try those Shiseido products to make pale skins glow, but I'm afraid I'm not *that* pale...

Glicolic exfoliation?? I'll definitely look into that, thanks! I've never really thought about it, honestly, and usually just use clay and/or purifying masks every couple of weeks.

I usually use Olay "daily facials", I've tried several other products, but these foamy cloths seem to be the best for me, but I must admit that, as I do not use foundation everyday, I sometimes skip this step. I know it doesn't matter, as it is not just make up what your skin needs to get rid of, so I'll do my best to cleanse everyday.

Amd moisturer... I can't seem to find any that really works for me. I've lately tried Philosohpy's "Hope in a Jar", Olay's "Complete Care Multiradiance", and Bobbi Brown's "Vitamins Enriched Face Base". This is the one I'm using now, and with Shea butter and vitamins it feels really rich, and I guess it'd work as a night cream, but during the day my skin soons feel dry and dull on the cheeks, and bright and oily in the nose...

I'm thinking about getting some Origins skincare for my birthday, but I still am not sure about that. Would you recommend any? LOL, I'm so lost...

 
 
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miu_miu, thanks so much, I'm kinda overwhelmed with your kind replies, they definitely make me feel better, so once again, thanks!

I've always had oily skin growing up, but I think now its mixed, as my nose shines like a beacon (LOL), but my cheeks are quite well balanced... I'll definitely look into some exfoliating, as The_Ida said, and use it wisely. If I'm not sure about overdoing it, I'll just pop back here for advice! :p

I've read about retinoids and antioxidants (sunscreen is a must, so I've got that covered, LOL), as well as vitamin C, so I'll look into the brands you name, and see what suits my skin (and my wallet!) better.

Red wine! Uhm... Maybe I'll start switching from beer to wine every now and then. II'm not an usual drinker, its more the social aspect of it, The act of getting together with my boyfriend (we do not live together), or a few friends, and share some drinks having a nice time. I've considered drinking something non alcoholic, but juice or sodas do not appeal to me (sugar, caffeine, bloating, low nutrients), so in the end a beer really does sound like the healthiest option! :p

And yes, I'm definitely starting to eat better, avoiding proccesed foods, and sticking to greens, lean meat, and fish... I'm getting some omega3 supplements today, and plan to make this way of eating something permanent in my life x)

The exercise is the tough part, because I don't have gyms nearby, or anyone to work out with, so my motivation really fluctuates. I'll keep searching for something that I like to do, something fun that motivates me, and see how it goes...


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- dark green leafy vegetables (spinach, kale etc)
- orange vegetables (carrots, sweet potato, pumpkin)
- nuts (almonds, brazil nuts)

products:
- vitamin c serum (skinceuticals CE ferulic)
- glycolic acid (MD formulations continuous renewal serum)
- sunscreen (a good 30+ broad-sprectrum)

 
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oops i meant Skinceuticals Phloretin CF not CE ferulic

 
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Surely one teaspoon of honey won't harm anyone, but one shouldn't have much sugar in one's diet at all. It ages the body and therefore the skin tremendously. It doesn't break you out, I never said that. One might as well try to eliminate sugar as much as possible, for example by not drinking tea with sugar/honey, no sugar on cereal etc.
It's a good idea to wean yourself off of the obvious sugars, since it's hidden in so much of our modern processed foods anyway. But all sugars aren't created equal. Our bodies are built to break down a lot of what we eat into sugar (hello carbs, three food groups that make up more than half of a healthy diet). And you need sugar for a healthy body, it's where we get our energy from.

But, err, yeah. Honey is a no go, it's about as bad as sugar. Take a look at a Glycemic Index list, and find a sweetener with the lowest GI. I think your best bet is probably Stevia. But definitely make an effort to wean yourself off of sugar and sweet stuff. There's so much hidden sugar in our modern, processed food that we get way more than our bodies need.

And I just wanted to mention that ever since I cut out meat (I still do fish and poultry), there's been a noticeable difference in my skin and health in general. There's a relationship between meat and sugar, meaning that the more meat we eat, the more sugar our bodies need (something about how we digest meat, etc). So it might help to decrease your meat consumption to lower your sugar intake.

Blah blah, once again I end up writing a novel.

 
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It's a good idea to wean yourself off of the obvious sugars, since it's hidden in so much of our modern processed foods anyway. But all sugars aren't created equal. Our bodies are built to break down a lot of what we eat into sugar (hello carbs, three food groups that make up more than half of a healthy diet). And you need sugar for a healthy body, it's where we get our energy from.
All sugars may not be created equal, but they are digested the same way, so it makes no difference if you're having a glass of orange juice or a coke. Except for the vitamins
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And I just wanted to mention that ever since I cut out meat (I still do fish and poultry), there's been a noticeable difference in my skin and health in general. There's a relationship between meat and sugar, meaning that the more meat we eat, the more sugar our bodies need (something about how we digest meat, etc). So it might help to decrease your meat consumption to lower your sugar intake.
That sounds really interesting!

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It's a good idea to wean yourself off of the obvious sugars, since it's hidden in so much of our modern processed foods anyway. But all sugars aren't created equal. Our bodies are built to break down a lot of what we eat into sugar (hello carbs, three food groups that make up more than half of a healthy diet). And you need sugar for a healthy body, it's where we get our energy from.

But, err, yeah. Honey is a no go, it's about as bad as sugar. Take a look at a Glycemic Index list, and find a sweetener with the lowest GI. I think your best bet is probably Stevia. But definitely make an effort to wean yourself off of sugar and sweet stuff. There's so much hidden sugar in our modern, processed food that we get way more than our bodies need.

And I just wanted to mention that ever since I cut out meat (I still do fish and poultry), there's been a noticeable difference in my skin and health in general. There's a relationship between meat and sugar, meaning that the more meat we eat, the more sugar our bodies need (something about how we digest meat, etc). So it might help to decrease your meat consumption to lower your sugar intake.

Blah blah, once again I end up writing a novel.

Honey is a 58 on the glycemic index and sugar is a 100. Wouldn't that make it better?

Anyways, you should take everything you read on this thread with a grain of salt. Do what works for you.

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Honey is a 58 on the glycemic index and sugar is a 100. Wouldn't that make it better?

Anyways, you should take everything you read on this thread with a grain of salt. Do what works for you.
I think you're thinking about glucose, which has a GI of 100. That's the reference point for the GI system, going from 1-100. Table sugar (sucrose) is generally given an index between 60-70, and honey gets 55-60. That's pretty close. Sure, a GI of 55 is considered low, but you have to consider that honey gets its low GI from fructose (monosaccharide vs. as a disaccharide in table sugar) which the liver likes to turn into fat.

 
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Rice bran syrup is a great alternative from honey, for vegans. It has a low G.I

 
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Or Agave Nectar...

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Have a good skin care regimine(cleanse,exfoliate,moisturize etc), use sunscreen of at least spf 15, drink lots water, use grapeseed oil(extra virgin olive oil is a good alternative if you can't find it) and don't smoke.

 
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