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I am considering switching to organic food. Is anyone familiar with organic products? Pros and cons? Any help would be great - I've done some research but no one around me eats organic. How does it taste ?

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Organic foods taste delicious! My bf always makes mashed potatoes with organic potatoes, and they taste very different from normal mashed potatoes. I also love eating at this organic food restaurant nearby

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Is organic food better for me?
Organic foods may have higher nutritional value than conventional food, according to some research. The reason: In the absence of pesticides and fertilizers, plants boost their production of the phytochemicals (vitamins and antioxidants) that strengthen their resistance to bugs and weeds. Some studies have linked pesticides in our food to everything from headaches to cancer to birth defects — but many experts maintain that the levels in conventional food are safe for most healthy adults. Even low-level pesticide exposure, however, can be significantly more toxic for fetuses and children (due to their less-developed immune systems) and for pregnant women (it puts added strain on their already taxed organs), according to a report by the National Academy of Sciences.

Pesticide contamination isn't as much of a concern in meats and dairy products (animals may consume some pesticides, depending on their diet), but many scientists are concerned about the antibiotics being given to most farm animals: Many are the same antibiotics humans rely on, and overuse of these drugs has already enabled bacteria to develop resistance to them, rendering them less effective in fighting infection, says Chuck Benbrook, Ph.D., chief scientist at the Organic Center, a nonprofit research organization.

Is buying organic better for the environment?

Organic farming reduces pollutants in groundwater and creates richer soil that aids plant growth while reducing erosion, according to the Organic Trade Association. It also decreases pesticides that can end up in your drinking glass; in some cities, pesticides in tap water have been measured at unsafe levels for weeks at a time, according to an analysis performed by the Environmental Working Group (EWG). (To find out about the safety of your tap water, visit the EWG website at ewg.org/tapwater/yourwater.) Plus, organic farming used 50 percent less energy than conventional farming methods in one 15-year study.
As for the cons? Probably the cost, lower output and shorter shelf life.

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Just found this on CNN... Some cons!

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"Because organic foods use pathogen-laden manure as their primary fertilizer, organic foods may pose a higher risk of foodborne-illness than conventional foods," he said, adding that damage from pests is likely to be greater, as well, and that could translate to more fungal growth, or colonization by molds. Some of these organisms produce toxins. One of them, aflatoxin, is considered highly carcinogenic.

DiMatteo said manure is used -- but that restrictions and procedures are used in handling it. Plus, it's only part of the overall soil plan.

"The organic system for soil fertilization includes crop rotation, cover crops, composted vegetable matter and manure," she told CNN.Com.

That's fine, according to the United Fresh Fruit and Vegetable Association, provided the manure is properly composted.

"Uncomposted or improperly composted manure that enters surface waters many contain pathogens and subsequently contaminate produce," the association warned.

Food safety experts say organic or not, consumers have to observe the same rules if they want to avoid getting sick. Thoroughly wash -- even scrub -- all produce. And, if the skin won't come clean, peel it off.

Organic livestock may have had the run of the farm and eaten pesticide-free grain, but that doesn't mean they won't come to slaughter loaded with bacteria. Just like conventional chickens, organic birds can harbor salmonella, E. coli and campylobacter. These can cause anything from a mild intestinal illness to a life-threatening infection. To avoid that, organic chickens (or any organic meat) should be handled the same as a regular product -- observing cleanliness rules in the kitchen and making sure they are cooked to the proper temperature: 180 degrees for poultry, 160 degrees for beef.

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Just found this on CNN... Some cons!
That is Propaganda fed in large by the Aquaculture growers and CNN repeats it - CNN is not the end all be all in news. You will also hear Big Pharma saying Vitamins are not beneficial. Eat locally grown Organic.

While you are studying information to go organic - drop the sugar also and go Stevia and Xylitol. Sugar is white death food from the dark side. You will also find sugar companies spending money on TV commercials saying it's just use corn syrup. However it is not.

I am a fashion designer and maker of things. I also worked for Eden Foods in 1975 the First International Whole Food and Organic Food Distributer in the World. They have recently celebrated their 40th year in business. We had a lunch room where Michael Potter the owner had a chef on staff. All our meals were made and then shared by the entire crew. How cool was that back in 1975.

Yet down the freeway I-94 was the Big 4 Automakers a 45 minute drive. So close to the ECO movement of the early 70s in Ann Arbor and light years away in comprehension. And now today paying the price by having not looked into sustainability instead going for situational trend $elling.

It was fortuitous to live in Ann Arbor home of University of Michigan in the mid 1970s the hot bed of Arts, Health Food and Intelligence. I wondered in the 80s how Fashion and Health food would mix - well here we are today and I know how. I'm in my early 50s look great and design hot stuff in good health.

off now to have a glass of greens and seaweeds.. black cherry flavor of course.

You young women take care of your bodies do not rely on large companies to have your best interest on their bottom line.


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If you eat meat.... would you rather eat a piece of chicken that was heavily induced with antibiotics and steroids to make it fattier or a piece of chicken that was fed regular chicken feed so it isn't as fatty. I think organic is the best thing anyone can do to start eating healthier, but for some reason journalists, researchers, and news networks always find a way to down organic foods because it is out of the ordinary diet of a currently obese society.

I don't know if you live in the US, but if anyone here does, they should watch Food Inc to realize that the food company in the US is controlled by big companies who aren't the most organic of brands. Oh, and let's not forget that those companies are lobbyists and will gladly pay millions just to get people to believe that organic, veganism, vegetarianism, low fat foods are bad because of some retarded reason.

Anyways, back to the topic.

Pros? A cleaner diet that doesn't consist of pesticides, antibiotics, and steroids.

Cons? A bit pricier since there's not a heavy demand for organic products at the moment.

I hope people understand that organic that not mean being vegetarian or vegan.

Also, a big pro is to actually be able to taste foods how they are naturally.

For meats, they are less fatty and have a more heavy taste.

For vegetables/fruits, you'll find they're not as large, but also have a heavier taste.

When I say heavier, I mean you get more flavor in less portions. Non-organic products usually focus on a bigger portion but with less taste. Organic products are usually "smaller" but more tasty. You'll find your taste buds being satisfied much faster when eating organic.

I hope that helps some. Just from my personal experience ofcourse.

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Also, about prices. You'll find vegetables/fruits to be much much cheaper when you're eating products that are in season.

During warm months, you should consider growing common easy to grow vegetables/fruits/herbs as you will find it much cheaper than buying from the market. Especially herbs. I bought "organic basil" from the supermarket and it was like 5 bucks for a few stems of leaves. Spending that much money on herbs is absurd especially when you can grow your own and have a basil shrub for months.

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That is Propaganda fed in large by the Aquaculture growers and CNN repeats it - CNN is not the end all be all in news. You will also hear Big Pharma saying Vitamins are not beneficial. Eat locally grown Organic.

While you are studying information to go organic - drop the sugar also and go Stevia and Xylitol. Sugar is white death food from the dark side. You will also find sugar companies spending money on TV commercials saying it's just use corn syrup. However it is not.

I am a fashion designer and maker of things. I also worked for Eden Foods in 1975 the First International Whole Food and Organic Food Distributer in the World. They have recently celebrated their 40th year in business. We had a lunch room where Michael Potter the owner had a chef on staff. All our meals were made and then shared by the entire crew. How cool was that back in 1975.

Yet down the freeway I-94 was the Big 4 Automakers a 45 minute drive. So close to the ECO movement of the early 70s in Ann Arbor and light years away in comprehension. And now today paying the price by having not looked into sustainability instead going for situational trend $elling.

It was fortuitous to live in Ann Arbor home of University of Michigan in the mid 1970s the hot bed of Arts, Health Food and Intelligence. I wondered in the 80s how Fashion and Health food would mix - well here we are today and I know how. I'm in my early 50s look great and design hot stuff in good health.

off now to have a glass of greens and seaweeds.. black cherry flavor of course.

You young women take care of your bodies do not rely on large companies to have your best interest on their bottom line.
Did you even read both articles properly? It's irritating when people dismiss an unbiased viewpoint as propaganda. What I quoted was a small part of the article that listed the cons of organic foods, because the original poster asked for both viewpoints. They make perfect sense too - "organic" is not tantamount to "viral-free", and an organic product does not guarantee safety. That's not going to stop me from eating organic products, but surely I'm not just gonna blindly stuff organic foods down my mouth.

This is also from CNN... Oh no, now they're feeding us with their pro-organic propaganda!

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The Organic Center, a nonprofit research organization in Foster, Rhode Island, recently issued a review of 97 studies on the subject to draw the conclusion that organic foods, on average, offer a 25 percent higher nutrient level over conventional ones. The premium may be an extra measure of a nutrient like vitamin C or higher levels of compounds like antioxidants, which are produced by plants to act as natural pesticides.

The TOC is a pro-organic organization, so it's not surprising they found a nutritional edge. However, their review is complemented by emerging research from independent scientists. For example, University of California at Davis researchers have found higher levels of nutrients in organic tomatoes, kiwifruit, corn, and strawberries grown side-by-side with conventional versions.

Pesticide residues are much lower in organic foods than conventionally grown ones. Chemicals used in agriculture that may find their way into the food supply are monitored by the EPA, which sets limits on how much pesticide residue foods can contain. According to the FDA's Pesticide Residue Monitoring Program, which collects and tests random samples of domestic and imported foods, fruits and vegetables have the highest levels of trace pesticides -- 54.9 percent of fruit and 23.8 percent of vegetables. And studies have shown certain types of produce are consistently high in pesticide levels, which may make organic varieties a suitable alternative.

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I would agree that the major con is the price... Organic food is pricier, but IMO better in the long run. We try to buy fresh from the farmer's market where possible, and stick to organic groceries where we can. You will notice the taste different mostly in the fresh foods rather than the pre packaged foods. Organic fruit is SO delicious. There is a massive taste different to fruit that has been snap frozen and sold at a later date.

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Wow, you've all been so helpful!

I went to several chain supermarkets (I live in England now) and I find is hard to find products - otherwise there is a very small section.

I feel that organic food is the ultimate detox and the ideal lifestyle change.

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As you mentioned being organic is not being a vegan or a vegetarian. So, what signs should I be looking for so I know that something is organic? Particularly organic meat.

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much healthier move on everyone's part,the higher prices are worth it.I buy only organic produce and try to buy it within my island's radius.sometimes that's hard!

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As you mentioned being organic is not being a vegan or a vegetarian. So, what signs should I be looking for so I know that something is organic? Particularly organic meat.
you could start with free range chicken. I don't know anything about it though because I haven't eaten meat in 12 years.Try fake meat, like veggie burgers.Amy's has good fake ones that have a meaty texture the All American Burger.I'll try to convince anyone to not to eat meat,there is nothing humane or sustainable about it.

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you could start with free range chicken. I don't know anything about it though because I haven't eaten meat in 12 years.Try fake meat, like veggie burgers.Amy's has good fake ones that have a meaty texture the All American Burger.I'll try to convince anyone to not to eat meat,there is nothing humane or sustainable about it.
The thing is some fake meats are not organic themselves.

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which brands are you talking about? I go to an organic store so they don't sell anything non organic.I hope...

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As you mentioned being organic is not being a vegan or a vegetarian. So, what signs should I be looking for so I know that something is organic? Particularly organic meat.
Well in the US meats that are recognized as 100% organic have the USDA Organic sticker on it.

But you, assuming, live in Greece so you'll have to do research on how your country certifies organic meats.

I only know of one certification in Greece and it's called "Dio", which is the leading inspector of organic products in Greece.


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