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I've never quite understood why it's ok to be a vegetarian but go vegan and suddenly you are a militant *******?

Maybe it's that all or nothing mentality? I think people really feel judged and perhaps guilty about their own food consumption.

(I work as a stylist and I get the same reaction when people ask what I do. People automatically get super defensive about what they are wearing. I always have to diffuse that!)

So armed with this knowledge I try to be kind and not judgey when telling people. Or I say that I'm "99% vegan" which is more likely to be true as I'm certainly not perfect.

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President Clinton who became vegan, also calls himself a vegetarian because he can't be 100% sure of all the different ingredients he is served at functions etc. he consumes no meat, no dairy, no eggs, almost no oil for the protection of his own health.

my stock answer when i'm asked is that i aim to eat 90% of the time.

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lucy92 and cygnenoir you both make excellent points! And that's exactly how I feel. Bravo!

I have been vegan for almost 2 years now and I still get grilled by certain people for my food choices. I certainly don't grill people on why they eat meat, so I don't know why they feel the need to do it to me. I just let it roll off my back most of the time and go back to eating my veggie burger. Also, I like to eat out and I'm never sure what they put in my food, although I do ask them to omit dairy, eggs, chickens stock etc. I never know what they do, I just have to dig in and try to forget about it. I don't think it's possible to be 100%

On another note, has anyone had problems with iron difficieny? I take a multi vitamin but still find I get very tired at times.

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Powered milk is still an animal product no? It's up to you, if you love your cappucinos, far be it from me to deny you the pleasure of having it.
I know... I decided to cut down on dairy and egg products as much possible. If I'll want to have, let say a chocolate for example, I will definitely go for the vegan one but if there's no vegan alternative (like cappuccino for example), I will take the one with milk or eggs in it.

Ashcottmanor: I got new classmates in October and when they offer me a chocolate or something similar and I tell them I'm vegetarian (and I'm also trying to cut down on other animal products) they start to lecture me on how this is bed for my body blah blah blah. A week ago my classmate was trying to convince me how my body needs milk because there are some enzyms my body needs and can only be found in milk. And I just had enough. So I told her: I see no point to participate in this conversation. You have your own opinion, I have mine. I don't tell you what to eat so you have no right to tell me what should I.
Live and let live - if everyone followed this saying the world would be a better place.

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I know... I decided to cut down on dairy and egg products as much possible. If I'll want to have, let say a chocolate for example, I will definitely go for the vegan one but if there's no vegan alternative (like cappuccino for example), I will take the one with milk or eggs in it.
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thats how i do it, too

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anybody know where i can get vegan food in Germany? just in a Naturkostladen/Reformhaus or do normal chains (Aldi, Rewe etc) have vegan stuff as well? i only ever see vegetarian food.

Also:
- my main problem is that i LOVE dairy products and i don't really like soy milk, is there a good alternative?
- any websites with many recipes? (i'm especially looking for cookies, cakes and other sweet stuff)

i tried going vegan a couple of years ago but couldn't stay strong, now i'm trying to get back into it...i'm just scared that my addiction to chocolate will make me weak again

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Alvedansen, normal chains have vegan items as well. you might also try ordering ingredients over the internet. you might also try asking at aldi for a brochure which lists all their vegan items. trader joes has that here and its owned by aldi.

do a google search for babycakes bakery in new york and recipes. you should be able to find quite a few.

i also think you should try different brands of soymilk until you find one you like. my favorite brand is silk.

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You can also try Rice or Almond milk to see if you like them

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Here's a fantastic selection of semi-vegan meals! Can't wait to try them all.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...me&ref=general

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Im throwing a sort of dinner party next Saturday and itll be my first vegan menu since Im vegan now. I dont want my friends to 'miss' anything but at the same time I really can't be bothered to search the whole town for some super-special ingredients.
Do you perhaps have any suggestions regarding recipes ? I was perhaps thinking for a vegan lasagne as the main course ? And guacamole/hummus with fresh bread for starters ?!

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Im throwing a sort of dinner party next Saturday and itll be my first vegan menu since Im vegan now. I dont want my friends to 'miss' anything but at the same time I really can't be bothered to search the whole town for some super-special ingredients.
Do you perhaps have any suggestions regarding recipes ? I was perhaps thinking for a vegan lasagne as the main course ? And guacamole/hummus with fresh bread for starters ?!
Hey, that sounds great! I have lots of experience with vegan parties and my carnivorous guests leave not even realizing they had not eaten meat. I also cooked a meal for the Japan Vegetarian Society and they all agreed that it was the best vegan meal they ever had!

menu ideas:

*Arabic: tons to choose from...tabbouleh, hommos, baba ghannoush, loubieh (green bean and tomato stew) with arabic rice, falafel, stuffed grapeleaves or zucchini or eggplants...molokhiyye soup...spinach triangles...

*Indian: samosas, salads...tons to choose from, especially curries; and you can even make pooris (fried puffy bread...so bad but so good)

*Chinese: stir fries, fried rice, soups, sweet-and-sour soy protein, etc.

*Mexican/Tex Mex: guacamole, vegan fajitas, vegan chili with vegan cornbread...

*Italian: vegan lasagne is great, or penne arrabiata, or bolognese made with soy protein...panzanella salad, etc.

*French: you can make gratins with sauce blanche made with soy or other kind of milk, topped with breadcrumbs and vegan cheese if you like. Pears stewed in red wine, chocolate cake...any fruit tart...

The important thing with stewed vegan things like chili, bolognese, etc. is to caramelize the onions well and use a bit of some wine or liquer and good stock to deepen the flavors, (and even a tad bit of soy sauce for umami) and cook it for as long as possible; remember stews taste better the next day too. Totally worth it; otherwise it gets bland easily. HTH


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^wow that sounds great, thanks so much for your effort!

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anybody know where i can get vegan food in Germany? just in a Naturkostladen/Reformhaus or do normal chains (Aldi, Rewe etc) have vegan stuff as well? i only ever see vegetarian food.

Also:
- my main problem is that i LOVE dairy products and i don't really like soy milk, is there a good alternative?
- any websites with many recipes? (i'm especially looking for cookies, cakes and other sweet stuff)

i tried going vegan a couple of years ago but couldn't stay strong, now i'm trying to get back into it...i'm just scared that my addiction to chocolate will make me weak again
i order most stuff at alles-vegetarisch.de the food is vegan there (i know it says "vegetarisch" in the URL).
these days ALDI sells veggy stuff, too. but i don´t know if vegan, i never buy at ALDI (also it depends on ALDI nord and ALDI süd). but they have soy milk!
as for REWE it depends on the store. as I know 1 (!!) REWE-Market that carries vegan food, but all the others don´t.
LIDL doesnt even have Soy Milk, as I know. I checked it last month or two moth ago.
I get my food at "Neukauf", "Herkulesmarkt", "EDEKA" and "Tegut". Check the food-packages. "Gourmet Garden" is mostly vegan. Tegut got a lot of vegan food too. last weekend I was at another edeka-market as i usually go, and saw a huge offer on vegan food. these four stores aren´t that expensive, too.
"Rossman" and "DM-Markt" have soy mild, rise milk etc too. they also offer some food. and it´s pretty cheep there.
i never go to a "Reformhaus" or "Naturkostladen" because they are way too expensive.

oh and i just forgot, my mom gets my food at "REAL"-market.

just check the veggy food, most of that is vegan. and you still can cook yourself

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^ "Alnatura" supermarkets have a lot stuff, too! it's the same brand you get at DM but with a bigger selection and they also sell products by other brands at their supermarkets as well.

I love soy milk, but at first I didn't enjoy it in my coffee at all. To get used to different milk in coffee I started buying oat milk now I actually prefer soy milk to regular milk in coffee too, but oat milk definitely helped to get used to it!

edit: just the other day I discovered a selection of vegan meat substitutes at Karstadt's food department


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^there used to be an "alnatura" in my town, but not anymore so i don´t know about that. we also don´t have karstadt, but i think that karstadt food is really expensive.

i noticed that when you cook vegetarian, it mostly turns out being vegan. i dont have cow-milk at home, so even cakes turn out being vegan.
there is soya-butter, too.
and i once read that instead of using an egg in you cake, you can use an banana.
btw, kaufland sells veggy/vegan food for 1.11€ this week!

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