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24-04-2011
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Well, I just use water as I dare say most of us do, aside from once a week when I use the Clarins cleansing milk.

I really don't think it's good with much cleansing. But that's probably something that depends on skin type.
^That!
I have [insert curse word] of a skin and if I fail to cleanse it properly just once I will get a nasty little breakout. Sometimes I forget about it and just splash water on in morning or swipe with toner and then next day - BAM: breakout.
From that perspective I kinda envy people who can get away with not using cleanser on skin or just using it once a day.
Then again, skin sweats (continuously), excretes sebum (even dry skin) and dust, dirt, pollution, dead skin cells accumulate on skin as well as skin care from previous application. I just find it horribly wrong not to cleanse my skin before I apply something new, then I get a sandwich: skin, old skin stuff, dirt, new skin stuff on top - which is probably why I get breakouts from not cleansing.
Then yet again, sometimes I think manufacturers have brainwashed my skin into thinking it needs cleansing since it certainly helps them sell more products.

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Face
1. Cleanser: LUSH angels on bare skin
2. Toner/lotion: Don't use toner
3. Cream/moisturizer: Nivea
4. Facial mask: The body shop warming mineral mask
5. Exfoliator: LUSH ocean salt or mario badescu glycolic cleanser
6. Make-up remover: None, just use my cleanser

Body
6. Shower gels/soaps: LUSH rockstar
7. Body lotions/creams: Elizabeth Arden green leaf or something or LUSH strawberry fields massage bar
10. Hand/foot cream: L'occitane shea butter hand cream, L'occitane vanilla hand cream, L'occitane raspberry hand cream
11. Lip balm or lip treatment: Burts bees or blistex
12. Perfume: Marc jacobs Daisy, Thierry Mugler Alien, Versace crystal noir, Vera Wang rock princess

Hair
13. Shampoo/conditioner: Elvital

Make-up
15. Foundation: Don't wear foundation , only MAC concealer on dark spots left behind from pimples.
16. Powder: None.
17. Blush: NARS gina or estee lauder sunset pink
18. Mascara: Hardly ever wear mascara , but when I do it's either Rimmel sexy curves or Diorshow
19. Lipstick/lipgloss: MAC angel , elizabeth arden pink vibration or benefit benetint
20. Eyeshadow: Bronze, woodwinked, tissueweight or solar white from MAC.
21. Eyeliner: None

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25-04-2011
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^That!
I have [insert curse word] of a skin and if I fail to cleanse it properly just once I will get a nasty little breakout. Sometimes I forget about it and just splash water on in morning or swipe with toner and then next day - BAM: breakout.
From that perspective I kinda envy people who can get away with not using cleanser on skin or just using it once a day.
Then again, skin sweats (continuously), excretes sebum (even dry skin) and dust, dirt, pollution, dead skin cells accumulate on skin as well as skin care from previous application. I just find it horribly wrong not to cleanse my skin before I apply something new, then I get a sandwich: skin, old skin stuff, dirt, new skin stuff on top - which is probably why I get breakouts from not cleansing.
Then yet again, sometimes I think manufacturers have brainwashed my skin into thinking it needs cleansing since it certainly helps them sell more products.
It depends on skin type and age. For me, I have noticed if I use too much exfoliation of cleansing my skin gets irritated and I have break outs. I cannot tell you the kind of damage some Shiseido toner once did....;/ Shiseido is just totally wrong for my skin overall.

Having studied some microbiology it is a long time since I gave up thinking about the skin as pure after cleansing. It never gets clean. Really. What you can do if you wash too much and get dry is that small cracks can cause shallow infection sites. It's very important to constantly keep the skins surface as intact as possible.

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25-04-2011
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Facial Cleansers:

*Acne Free Severe Acne Foam Wash (don't have severe acne but WOW does it do great work on my skin when I do get a breakout)

*Neutrogena Acne Stress Control Cream Wash

*Proactive

*Cetaphil

*Estee Lauder Splash Away Foaming Cleanser

*Estee Lauder Verite Cleanser

*Olay Regenerist Microdermabrasion & Peel Kit

Facial Toners:

*Proactive

Lotions:

*Estee Lauder Hydrationist

*Estee Lauder Time Zone (for day version)

*Cetaphil

Serums:

*Estee Lauder Idealist (day)

*Estee Lauder Advanced Night Repair (night)

*Estee Lauder Advanced Night Repair Eye

Masks

*Be Fine Food Skincare Clay Warming Mask

*Biore Self Heating Mask

*AcneFree Theraputic Sulfur Mask

*Queen Helene Mint Julep Mask

*Clean & Clear Blackhead Eraser Mask

*Mineral From The Dead Sea Magic Mud Masque

Makeup Removers:

*Almay Eye Makeup Remover (Oil Free)

*Estee Lauder Gentle Eye Makeup Remover

Tools:

*Clarisonic

*Blackhead Extractor

*Thermaclear (like Zeno)


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It depends on skin type and age. For me, I have noticed if I use too much exfoliation of cleansing my skin gets irritated and I have break outs. I cannot tell you the kind of damage some Shiseido toner once did....;/ Shiseido is just totally wrong for my skin overall.

Having studied some microbiology it is a long time since I gave up thinking about the skin as pure after cleansing. It never gets clean. Really. What you can do if you wash too much and get dry is that small cracks can cause shallow infection sites. It's very important to constantly keep the skins surface as intact as possible.
Oh yea, from a microbio point of view skin is never ever clean, I think even surgical hand disinfection with antiseptics only rids surface of microbes for very short amount of time. Clearly no face cleanser comes even remotely close to Sterillium and those things.
And you are very right about skin barrier function! I could swim in dexpanthenol, pantothenic acid, ceramides and all those nice things. Is why I hate harsh foaming cleansers, they ruin and irritate skin very fast = breakouts. But also having dirt, dust and sweat etc on skin irritates skin and that = breakouts. Also a nice environment for bacteria. At least is that way for me.

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I'm surprised at how many people don't cleanse their faces.

I'm surprised at how Patrick Bateman-like some people's routines sound.

I wash my face with this:


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I use Bare Minerals foundation. Pretty much it. :p

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I'm surprised at how Patrick Bateman-like some people's routines sound.
HAHAH funny

I wonder why people put so much chemicals in their face and body?
I believe in healthy lifestyle, drinking lot´s of water and
good moisturizer.
And if I use some products they have to be ecological and no animal tested.
Something that have to be tested with animals cannot be good...
And some products like exfoliatons is easy to make by yourself

I have noticed that my skin is in better shape now when I just wash it with water and then put moisturizer than when I used tons of products.
But I guess that do not work with all people...
We get sh*t in our body & skin from outside and it feels disgusting, I do not wanna put more chemicals in my body.

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^This. Im sure drinking lots of water, eating a healthy diet, exercising 30 minutes a day, and getting enough sleep always works better than using top rated skin products. I wonder if skin can maybe get addicted to skin products? And gradually you just need to use more and more? Who knows. All I know is I stay out of the sun and make a concerted effort to be healthy and happy, and my skin is clear 90% of the time

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26-04-2011
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I'm surprised at how many people don't cleanse their faces.
my skin is somehow better when i don't use cleansers, it's very strange but i don't wear much makeup either so it probably works out. if i did, i definitely would use something to get that makeup off!

iluvjeisa & jenna-maria that's how my skin is. it's more sensitive to face products than makeup, less is more for me.

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I'm surprised at how Patrick Bateman-like some people's routines sound.
and i love your skin philosophy

Face
1. Cleanser: n/a
2. Toner/lotion: n/a
3. Cream/moisturizer: Neutrogena Oil Free
4. Facial mask: n/a
5. Exfoliator: n/a
6. Make-up remover: MAC Gently Off Eye Makeup Remover

Body

6. Shower gels/soaps: Dove Cucumber & Green Tea
7. Body lotions/creams: Lubriderm Unscented
8. Anticellulite/firming treatment if you use any : n/a
9. Body exfoliator:n/a
10. Hand/foot cream: n/a
11. Lip balm or lip treatment: not a big fan of using lip balms generally but my friend bought me EOS balm in Summer Fruit she's so sweet and it's not bad
12. Perfume: A&F 8

Hair

13. Shampoo/conditioner: whatevers around
14. Mask or other treatments: n/a

Make-up

15. Foundation: n/a
16. Powder: n/a
17. Blush: n/a, haven't been into it lately especially if i'm naturally flushed that day
18. Mascara: Maybelline Lash Stiletto Voluptuous with Maybelline Full N Soft on top
19. Lipstick/lipgloss: on the occasion that i wear it, i like MAC Fashion Scoop Cremesheen Glass
20. Eyeshadow: MAC Omega matte
21. Eyeliner: MAC Black Track Fluidline


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^This. Im sure drinking lots of water, eating a healthy diet, exercising 30 minutes a day, and getting enough sleep always works better than using top rated skin products. I wonder if skin can maybe get addicted to skin products? And gradually you just need to use more and more? Who knows. All I know is I stay out of the sun and make a concerted effort to be healthy and happy, and my skin is clear 90% of the time
I think so!

Hair can get used to one shampoo and moisturizer so why skin could not?

Less is more definetly.

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27-04-2011
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Face
1. Cleanser: Cetaphil
2. Toner/lotion: Jurlique Citrus Purfying Mist
3. Cream/moisturizer: DAY, UV Tripleguard Sunscreen SPF 30 and Nivea Aqua Sensation Anti-Shadow Eye Cream.
NIGHT, Sukin Restoring Night Cream, Sukin Rose Hip Oil and Payot Paris Design Regard Triple Performance Eye Cream
4. Facial mask: Freeman Purifying Facial Clay mask with Avocado and Oatmeal
5. Exfoliator: Peach and Willowbark Deep Pore Scrub
6. Make-up remover: Bioderma Sensibo H2O

My face routine is not religious has I want it to be nevertheless I try to use the sunscreen and remover everyday.

Body
7. Shower gels/soaps: Cetaphil, I know a bit odd but I buy the 1L bottle.
8. Body lotions/creams:
9. Anticellulite/firming treatment if you use any:
10. Body exfoliator:
11. Hand/foot cream: Jurlique Citrus Hand Cream and/or Aesop Resurrection Aromatique Hand Balm
12. Lip balm or lip treatment: I own way too many lip balms current favourite is Jurlique Love Balm and Dermalogica Climate Control but I always go back to Strawberry Chapstick and Blistex.
13. Perfume: Balenciaga EDP.

Hair
14. Shampoo/conditioner: I don't buy the S&C and use whatever but if I do I'll get Organic Care Dry Nourish.
15. Mask or other treatments: Klorane Oat Milk Dry Shampoo,Moroccan Oil and Tresemme Heat Protection Spray.

Make-up
16. Foundation: MAC Face & Body,only for occasions.
17. Concealer: Bobbi Brown Concealer Set and Corrector
17. Powder: Chanel Mat Lumiere Powder Makeup for touch ups and mirror.
18. Blush:
19. Mascara: Diorshow
20. Lipstick/lipgloss:
21. Eyeshadow:
22. Eyeliner: Bobbi Brown Gel Eyeliner


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08-05-2011
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Face:
1.Cleanser: Liz Earle Cleanse and Polish
2.Toner/Lotion: Mario Badescu Glycolic Acid Toner and Liz Earle Instant Boost Skin Tonic
3.Moisturizer: Embryolisse Lait Creme Concentre + La Roche Posay Anthelios 30spf. And Dr Hauschka Rose Cream from time to time.
4. Facial Mask: Is Mario Badescu Silver Powder as mask? :p I also like Dr Hauschka Rejuvenating mask and Lush fresh face masks.
5. Exfoliator: La Roche Posay Physiological Ultra Fine Scrub.

Body:
6. Shower gel/ soap: I'm not picky but usually Johnsons or E45.
7. Body lotions/creams: E45 Moisturizing Lotion
8. Body exfoliator: I use exfoliating gloves
9. Lip balm: Parfumeria Gal Collection in red currant (been using this for years!)
10. Perfume: none at the moment! But I think soon I will be purchasing Chanel Coco Mademoiselle again

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HAHAH funny

I wonder why people put so much chemicals in their face and body?
I believe in healthy lifestyle, drinking lot´s of water and
good moisturizer.
And if I use some products they have to be ecological and no animal tested.
Something that have to be tested with animals cannot be good...
And some products like exfoliatons is easy to make by yourself

I have noticed that my skin is in better shape now when I just wash it with water and then put moisturizer than when I used tons of products.
But I guess that do not work with all people...
We get sh*t in our body & skin from outside and it feels disgusting, I do not wanna put more chemicals in my body.
I wonder why people spend lots of $$$ on allergy inducing products filled with harsh plant extracts because they're ecological when you can use safe non-reactive chemical ingredients instead. Because if it's ecological it must be good, right? But oh well, different strokes for different folks

Drinking water will not affect your skin in anyway, that has never been proven at all. But stopping drinking sodas and sugary drinks will

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The_Ida I wonder the same thing all the time. I also don't trust in the "more ecological brands" for sunscreen. In the consumer tests that I've seen, these kind of brands never have good ratings. (I saw one that used a Weleda sunscreen and the spf on the label was almost half to the real spf. WTF?). I known a lot of people here in the forum likes the Devita sunscreen...but I don't really trust them (sorry). I keep reading over and over again in reviews and forums that is not very effective and that people tanned/almost got burnt with this.


Besides avoid irritating plant extracts and essential oils here's what I do:

-Apply sunscreen every morning to every exposed area (I don't pay much attention to the spf, I care about ppd rating or zinc oxide percentage). The sunscreen that I apply on my neck, chest and back is also non-comedogenic. I don't use formulas with strong fragances (I don't like walking around smelling like Avene or Bioderma sun products).
-If I spend a long time outdoors, I reapply sunscreen every 2 hours (I dislike doing this so much, that I avoid spending a long period outside-I am so lazy!)
-In the end of the day I remove the sunscreen with a cleanser and apply Lysalpha cicapeel 2-3x a week
-ZERO moisturizer...they always give me pimples
-Never try more than one face product during one week, because my skin is acne-prone and sensitive


-Any shower gel (that is not a exfoliating one) will do
-I apply moisturizer to my body maybe...once a year, to hands and lips 2x a week...I always forget to use it...No wonder I never finished a moisturizer in my life
-I exfoliate my feet...twice a year

Hair:

-Shampoo: Pantene for curly hair (2-3x a week)
-Conditioner: Pantene for curly hair (2-3x a month...I have no patience to use them
-I only get one haircut once a year (and that's the only time I go to the hairdresser...I also have no patience for this)
- I don't even own a hairdryer or any other heating tool and the last time I straightned my hair was more than 10 years ago (too much effort and did not last very long)
- I don't brush my hair when it is dry, I use a comb or my fingers
- In the morning, I only use a spray or a styling mousse for curly hair after combing my hair and I am ready to go
- I never dyed my hair and I don't plan to until I get white hairs
RESULT: I never get damaged hair or splited ends

Makeup

-No makeup - because my skin is very acne-prone and I have NO skill (even applying mascara is hard for me...ah, ah, ah)

I also eat healthy. But in the exercise and stress management department I have a lot to improve.

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I also don't trust in the "more ecological brands" for sunscreen. In the consumer tests that I've seen, these kind of brands never have good ratings. (I saw one that used a Weleda sunscreen and the spf on the label was almost half to the real spf. WTF?). I known a lot of people here in the forum likes the Devita sunscreen...but I don't really trust them (sorry). I keep reading over and over again in reviews and forums that is not very effective and that people tanned/almost got burnt with this.
Not only consumer tests/reviews, also on small studies and anecdotal evidence from dermatologists natural/organic brands end up sharing last places with pseudo-science stuff a la L'Oreal and sometimes they end up even behind those because of the irritations and pore clogging waxes and whatelsenot is in there.
It's my guilty pleasure reading cosmetics design and derm mags when they pull out their VISA systems, ph-meters, ultrasound devices and all those gadgets and then compare how amazing at hydration or pigment reduction is stuff like Ultraceuticals and how Jurlique fails. Anyhow, eco/natural/organic skin care is a philosophy, not a science, it's about scaremongering, alarmists, ethics and what their products do not contain as opposed how how they benefit skin.

That said, I'm also kinda long time user of Devita sunscreen, not because I want organic or vegan products, but because it's pretty much the only totally non-whitening, non-greasy sunscreen with minimal ingredients that doesn't cost over $30 per 50 ml and doesn't break me out. But it has it's flaws, since Devita is an organic company they use uncoated micronized zinc oxide, which would otherwise show up in ingredient list as silicone resin or other -cone compound - a total no-no for organic skin care. That all might sound great since zinc has amazing reputation as safe, non-irritating broad-spectrum sun filter, but that all applies to bulk zinc (>25'000 nm), not to micronized particles >100 nm, which are not nearly that stable in UV light and can be irritating on skin and Imo need to be coated to counteract that, like most responsible brands do, say Skinmedica or Skinceuticals. So far Devita has been great for me, but only because I'm anal about sun protection, I reapply and avoid sun during mid-day anyway. Also a friend also tested it in a lab, it really lives up the claims they write on the website, about the 380 nm critical wavelength and UVA protection being greater than PPD 10, it's just Devita doesn't last forever, especially at higher UV index it breaks down and protection goes = 0. Kinda like with most chemical or mixed titanium sunscreens (micronized titanium also isn't stable). Devita is not a sunscreen I'd take to beach or use it if I lived somewhere sunny, like Spain or Greece because it's simply not strong enough for that, nor is it sweat or water resistant, but it's great for everyday use since I don't need to cover up any whiteness or anything.

What I find more appealing is that Garnier Ambre Solaire and La Roche-Posay Anthelios have both failed me and I got tan when I used them, even though they have SPF50+/PPD 20+ and as said I'm anal about sun and application. Not a loss I mourn much since Ambre and Anthelios are too oily for me even the Extreme Fluid versions. Mexoryl SX+XL filters = huge fail on my skin, even tho they are aggressively advertised as the greatest thing in sun protection since invention of shade.

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