Androgyny In Fashion And Models

[MUXU]

metrosexual haha, i didnt know metrosexual come across to women as well. i always thought it's a men's thing.

fabio is macho sensitive. though not look androgynous but supposingly have both male and female traits. there was a mock commercial for his own brand of shampoo. all clouds and white horses and his hair flying everywhere in the commercial, it was hilarious

[John_M.]

One little note in making my previous post... I do not buy into the "macho man" deal in regards to androgyny in fashion and in models. I don't consider myself macho at all. Meet me on the streets, and you'll probably see that I'm pretty friendly and caring and helpful. Like when I've looked up manskirts online (just window shopping and not seriously buying anything (I don't do online shopping anyways)), all the male models were muscular to show (I guess) the ideal man in something like a manskirt. I don't think such skirts (or any other garments) could be marketed to men by having hommes with "girly" bodies. Always has to be the average build 20-something. Only exception would be more full-figured or husky bodies for some of the larger size material.

My "official" status of orientation is a heterosexual male that's very slightly bi-curious. I took this into account in envisioning a homme with feminine beauty traits speaking as a male. I guess in much the same way I could be drawn to Jessica Alba or Penelope Cruz (at least for a feathered dress she wore at one awards show last year or two years ago) for their beauty, I think there are some males out there that even us guys would admit being beautiful people. I questioned feminine-type beauty for men as far as this androgynous topic goes both with casual clothing and semi-formal/formal clothing. Think of a guy in a white T-shirt, a long denim cargo skirt, and either a good pair of sneakers or any kind of men's sandals. I've once known a girl at my community college who usually wore these lovely long skirts, espexially one of those floor-length denim trumpet skirts. So I know about the beauty long skirts can provide. A guy I seen around my community college had on a pink sweater with some small 3D flowers on it. He wore some white pants and some white oxford shoes to go with the pink sweater. It's very possible that feminine-style garments can easily showcase the beauty of the male figure while not being too feminine to make some guys uneasy wearing them.

Maybe since I'm a guy, there have been some femmes that I've known that look too boyish that they can easily be confused for hommes. This is what I call overdoing it. Some times in 1997 (I was a 9th Grader), a good friend of mine had on a polo shirt along with some jeans and sneakers. She's a beautiful girl, but she looked too much like a boy. I can admit that nothing ticks a girl off than confusing a boyish girl for a guy. I think bold pants paired with a feminine top and maybe a newsboy cap makes for a boyish look while still being really feminine. I've always liked that semi-formal/formal look of a tight-fitting top paired with wide-leg pants as a "best of both worlds" look. Add a jacket that matches the pants and maybe even a cute hat, and you're even more stylin'.

On the modeling side, wearing a jacket or button-down shirt that's not zipped up or buttoned up is a chance to show some skin. I've seen male models wearing a button-down shirt that's opened up, showing his hard muscles and handsome face. Some female models who try this are either putting up risqué shots (think of a pregnant Christina Aguilera posing on a cover of Marie Clare magazine) or having masculine-like beauty in a photoshoot. The key for me in looking at such images is not so much artistically showing androgynous beauty, but a best of both worlds approach that showcases beauty in a unique (and sometimes sensual) way. Those that can master both masculine and feminine beauty and imitate the opposite gender successfully come up with some of the most memorable and amazing pictures.

[ElectricAlyce]

Originally Posted by John_M.

My "official" status of orientation is a heterosexual male that's very slightly bi-curious. I took this into account in envisioning a homme with feminine beauty traits speaking as a male. I guess in much the same way I could be drawn to Jessica Alba or Penelope Cruz (at least for a feathered dress she wore at one awards show last year or two years ago) for their beauty, I think there are some males out there that even us guys would admit being beautiful people.

This might be a hint off-topic, but it is a topic that fascinates me. A heterosexual girl can comment on another girl's beauty, or her sexy legs, or her big boobs and nobody lifts an eyebrow. But if you ever heard a heterosexual man commenting on how beautiful Johnny Depp is, or how they admire mister Beckham's chest-muscles (ok, cheep example but you get the general picture) - you'd draw the conclusion that "uhm, okey, he is gaaahaay!"

And by the way, I love your use of the world "official"!! Here's a flower

Muxu - no, I think it's a description of the male side of it. The female side of the same coin (the "add-some-sides-generally-assosiated-with-the-opposite-sex"-coin) came quite a while ago with the feminism, industrialism and, of course, with YSL's Le Smoking The strong, individual business-woman with a diploma from Harvard and killer heels in her pant-suit. You know the stereotype. The meterosexual man came with the pink polo-shirts, more vanity, more softness, more awareness of beautyproducts and skincare etc. (sadly, the meterosexual man has turned from a nice concept to a (at least where I live) word to describe rich daddy-boys with too much gel in their hair and the feminine prep)

[MUXU]

haha, yea, metrosexual seems be be getting a bad name lately. it's generally associated with gay men which some men find offensive...
but i still dont see myself as a metro though, i spend maybe $100 a year on beauty products verses a woman who spend £30 each month. i rarely wear make up and dont brush my hair haha. funnily enough, i dont like to wear sneakers of any sort other than plimsolls occasionally because i find it not chic/posh for me haha. i feel like a walking contradiction and one end doesnt meet the other

[fairy]

i like to look like a mess (that i am) but i love to throw in a pair of heels when i do

[MUXU]

haha, that's how i feel sometimes too. but i tried looking like a deliberate mess and always end up looking like an overdone christmas tree. i would like to wear heels more often like i did before but traveling around london forbids me to do so

[fairy]

^yeah same...when i know we're having a big night out with lots of dancing, i dont wear heels

[gius]

sailors outfit is always androgynous ...

a scene from a film by visconti: death in venice

deftboys

[MUXU]

she looks like a model but i cant remember her name
i like her look

[ElectricAlyce]

soo many pretty androgyneous boys in Slimane's fashiondiary!!

[Carrme]

oh agreed <3 I could just hang everyone for beauty and inspiration on my wall

[fairy]

Originally Posted by MUXU

she looks like a model but i cant remember her name
i like her look

i think u mean Tiiu Kuik....at least thats who she reminds me of

[gius]

i was completely thinking the same i think it is a guy though

also, gives me a gwyneth paltrow vibe, lol

[chip45]

guys.. that 'she' is a he. his name is bjorn andresen, a swedish actor..


chinadiary.com

unfortunately he doesn't look like this now..

[MUXU]

wow, damn. really pretty boy. the picture looks like it's from the 70s...
does he have a son or something O_O

yes, it was tiiu i was thinking of. i havent seen her around much lately