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19-01-2006
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I think it could be contributed in part by the tv shows about fashion (project runway, america's next top model...)

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20-01-2006
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i think it is. and a big part of it is the overwhelming celebrity culture we're experiencing. paparazzi catch celebs doing everything nowadays, so they have to pay more attention to how they're dressed, which in turn makes us, "the regular people," more attentive to how we dress. the only way this cycle can stop is through tougher paparazzi laws and guidelines.

there was actually an article similar to this subject in a recent teen vogue.

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It would be great if someone could scan and post this article....

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20-01-2006
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i believe the awnser differs between social grouping. the whole young trendy scene that hit the lables rather than understanding the style definatly think that there fashoin is fashionable. this may sound outandishly snobish and pretensious but those in the know can percieve that being fashionable has very little to do with designer lables to you the individual. l
I agree completely , I know people who have style but they don't adhere to any clear trends. Having style and being fashionable are two completely different things.

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i don't think "fashion" itself is fashionable at the moment, and i think that's definitely a good thing. i'm happy the mainstream has moved on from the tendency a couple of years ago to focus on the label and size of the logo to the fit, the cut and the uniqueness of the item. i don't actually think that more people are fashion-conscious than a few years ago, but people are thinking more about what they wear. the whole retro/vintage trend has probably helped propel this, with more people thinking about the longevity and timelesness of their pieces.

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besides the over-exposure of celebrity "style", a lot of this must have to do with the fact that fashion is now so easily accessible due to the internet. you no longer have to be invited to a fashion show to have seen all the looks from it right away...you can find photos of the entire thing the night it happened, within less than an hour sometimes. so any old person from a farm in middle america or a random tiny eastern euopean town can know exactly who john galliano is and what his last collection for dior was like and even about less-than-mainstream designers if they have internet access. it makes fashion much less exclusive than it ever was before because anyone can see it, heck you can even buy it if you have the money thanks to websites like net-a-porter.

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I think that's very perceptive and right on. I, for instance, live in Florida but not in a big city where I can go to fashion shows, high end luxury boutiques, or anything to that degree. However, I have educated myself mostly online through websites and magazines. Then I buy a lot of things on ebay or through other online shopping avenues.

I never stopped to think how involved I would be with fashion if I didn't have the internet access. It would be difficult.

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Fashion doesn't seem to be very fashionable where I am ... I wish it were, because I think/hope that would lead to less ugliness (although of course it might not). We just got a Zara, so maybe it's all about to change

People don't seem to think much about personal style, either, and when they do, the results are not always ... felicitous. For example, I know someone who buys novelty sweaters at sample sales (frequently they are actually too small for her), and inexpensive jewelry at jewelry shows. I think she must have a personal style rule enforcing a minimum one ring per finger Did I mention she's 59?

The best-dressed person I work with wears extremely classic clothes--no fashion influence that I could identify. That's pretty common here.

But I remember moving here from the Midwest, and immediately noticing how much more fashion-conscious people were. But I sure can't see it now :p

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besides the over-exposure of celebrity "style", a lot of this must have to do with the fact that fashion is now so easily accessible due to the internet. you no longer have to be invited to a fashion show to have seen all the looks from it right away...you can find photos of the entire thing the night it happened, within less than an hour sometimes. so any old person from a farm in middle america or a random tiny eastern euopean town can know exactly who john galliano is and what his last collection for dior was like and even about less-than-mainstream designers if they have internet access. it makes fashion much less exclusive than it ever was before because anyone can see it, heck you can even buy it if you have the money thanks to websites like net-a-porter.
I totally agree, great points!

The wheels are turning so fast that almost nothing stays limited and exclusive. You can buy the originals from a web retailer, or buy fakes on ebay... Sometimes you can even buy fakes earlier than the originals hit the stores!

I'm wondering if this "latest, greatest" stress will last though... If people get tired of the pressure they might just go after more classic looks. But they are copied and faked too!

I'm wondering if people acually value real quality and crafts, appreciate the fact that a bag can take a daily beating for 30 years or so... I know some of us do, but it seems like manufacturers aren't interested in supplying that kind of quality? It does cost more to produce great stuff as opposed to mediocre stuff... And if people are willing to spend hundreds of € on cheaper fluff, why not provide it?

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^ I think the current generation is barely even aware of the kind of quality that lasts decades ... I also wonder if people have become so accustomed to the disposable that they no longer even want that kind of quality.

I keep thinking that surely the pendulum must swing back in the other direction ...

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I think it also has to do with the new wave of celebs.... Now it's all about the Olsen sisters, Nicole Richie, etc..... And in almost every new picture of them, you'll see a comment related to what they wear...

As opposed to back then, when THE mainstream celebrity was Britney Spears (among other popstars) who had a "casual" style, not too designer or catwalk or street trend obsessed.

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I'm wondering if this "latest, greatest" stress will last though... If people get tired of the pressure they might just go after more classic looks. But they are copied and faked too!
i can see a 'i wouldnt care less about what's fashionably hot' attitude rising in the air, as illustrated by the new anti-fashionable trends in Japan..
it's only a justified reaction..
when the majority slaves trends and being fashionable, some 'elit' will just go out and say 'we can't really be bothered with playing the game anymore' i find this a healthy reaction

as for quality products, this is almost non existing in mass market..
everything seems a commodity with an expiring date (no durability) so the client will soon go out and burn some more money..

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i can see a 'i wouldnt care less about what's fashionably hot' attitude rising in the air, as illustrated by the new anti-fashionable trends in Japan..
it's only a justified reaction..
But then again, that attitude is getting "unoriginal" since too many people are doing it....


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i'd probably agree that fashion for 2006 is fashionable because there are so many trends out there and people have more variety in choosing what they want. people start getting an interest in what they wear. the vintage item craze is still happening here, and so are the skin-tight leggings, volume dresses, chunky necklaces, etc. ...

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But then again, that attitude is getting "unoriginal" since too many people are doing it....

but it's not a matter of originality, its a matter of being fashionably hot.. or not, the non-fashionable attitude as opposed to all-fashionable attitude

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