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I wanted to ask ...
I know there are several traditions, several way of wearing the hijab ...

But when I see Mozah, she only wears something on her hair and then wear normal outfits (covering her body and arms) ...
But for instance in Doha or Dubai, I hadn't seen a lot of dubaiote or qatari girls doing it ... Can you girls dress like Mozah IN Qatar or UAE ?

Or is it just when she goes abroad ?
I've seen pictures of her in Doha and she wears the 'traditional' black outfit ... so that's what I figured out ...

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BerlinRocks, those three pictures are gorgeous. Which magazine is it from?

It's a funny thing, because I asked my boyfriend (Lebanese) if several women in Lebanon dress the same way as Sheikah Mozah and he said yes. Some women wear the traditional hijab which covers the entire neck and ears and other girls wear the 'turban' like Mozah.

I think he also mentioned that only Emirite women are expected to cover in Dubai, whilst foreign women (or non-Emirite) are not. Which I believe has to be a huge number since Dubai is only...what...30% Emirite?

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^indeed, in UAE and Qatar, none of the non-muslim-foreign women wear the hijab nor the abbayah ...

I know that in the Expat' Guides they said it is to respect the locals ... Never really understood ...

For my part, I always wanted to wear the thobe (men uniform) and the ghutra (the scarf the men wears on their head) but never dare ... I have one in black (for winter) and next time I'm doing one white ...

I don't know ... Maybe one day I'll do it, but I'm scared one man comes to me and talk to me in arabic and I am not able to answer to him ... That would be a shame ! It already happens eventhough I'm dressed non-qatari (I have to say I'm - according to everyone in those countries - very arab looking like) ... so imagine if I wear the thobe ...

by the way, the pictures in the post before are all from different Vogue Paris late 90s


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there were some people featured on a tv show, they were all wearing turbans and thobes. i think they were from nigeria. the thobes were all dyed with indigo, different shades ^^ really nice... elegant silhouette. some stopped at the calves than all the way down to the feet. There were a few that were also black or deep green.



they also had really big turbans. the shape was so distinct, sharp, it was like a bowl on top of the head. or half-a-dome. i always thought there might be padding inside or a structured form, but i saw them make one turban and it was just fabric folded to make a strip and then wrapped around the head... all the layers made it quite thick and voluminous.

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one turban was like this, and it also covered part of the face and ears.

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^ BerlinRocks, please take photos while sporting your black thoub I have a thing for wintery dark-thoubs, specially in navy or black..they're very edgy and chic imo. (this calls for a thoub trends thread, since we're Offtopic )

And about the Sheikha Moza turban style..you might not see many locals do it here- moza herself doesn't wear the turban in Qatar.
But definitely abroad we wear it that way.. cause while we're in our country we're expected to stick to the traditional black abaya..
you will see girls wearing turbans here but they're usually lebanese,jordanian or egyptian.. the black Abaya is not a part of their culture.

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they also had really big turbans. the shape was so distinct, sharp, it was like a bowl on top of the head. or half-a-dome. i always thought there might be padding inside or a structured form, but i saw them make one turban and it was just fabric folded to make a strip and then wrapped around the head... all the layers made it quite thick and voluminous.
I've always wondered about these big turbans.. do they actually take the time to fold the layers everytime? or is it already folded and stitched...

I know the Emaraty male turban is done regularly by hand

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I wanted to ask ...
I know there are several traditions, several way of wearing the hijab ...

But when I see Mozah, she only wears something on her hair and then wear normal outfits (covering her body and arms) ...
But for instance in Doha or Dubai, I hadn't seen a lot of dubaiote or qatari girls doing it ... Can you girls dress like Mozah IN Qatar or UAE ?

Or is it just when she goes abroad ?
I've seen pictures of her in Doha and she wears the 'traditional' black outfit ... so that's what I figured out ...
Generally speaking no we can't dress like that in Doha, but there are some Qatari girls that do (very small amount) that come from extremely open-minded families they don't cover their hair either and wear mini skirts and very westernized and revealing clothing in public. Sheikha Moza wears the abbaya (black cloak) and shaila (the black headcover) in Doha.

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I was link-hopping and came upon a couple of new blogs that specialize in a sort of hijabi street style. These are all from hijabshigh.blogspot.com. For anyone who's looking for ideas, they have pics of people wearing all sorts of styles of clothes, from modern Western to retro to Southeast Asian/ethnic.


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I've always wondered about these big turbans.. do they actually take the time to fold the layers everytime? or is it already folded and stitched...

I know the Emaraty male turban is done regularly by hand
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i wonder if there's any meaning to it when they make it so big?

in the clip i saw, the fabric looked ready, folded and pressed. i couldn't see any stitching, but that's a nice idea... i've also seen it where they twist the fabric instead of folding it


i'm curious about the reactions to being in this attire too if i'm in the area, berlinrocks. any thoughts anyone? i have seen a few tv shows (globetrekker) where the host wears a sort of violet hijab during her whole tour. she seemed to be received pretty well... she's blonde and american though --clearly a tourist.

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I knew a girl in college who began wearing a hijab even though she wasn't Muslim. She did it as an experiment for a paper she was writing (this was after the first Gulf War), but she liked the way people treated her, so she kept on wearing it after she was done. Most of the Muslims on campus didn't mind; in fact, they thought it was cool. I think there were probably a couple that were all, "Stop appropriating my religious symbols!" but they pretty much kept it to themselves.

Re: turbans, here's an article from 2005 that mentions that the turbans Iranian clerics wear are cloth that can be as long as 60 feet. (The article also talks about how clerics are becoming more chic.)

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/07/in...ast/07qum.html

It seems like wearing a turban in the actual country (any country) would depend on whether or not it's something worn by regular citizens. I'd feel weird wearing something that's indicative of clergy, but if it's something that men wear on the street, why not? At the very least, it's a sign that you find something about their culture beautiful and appealing, which can only be a good thing.

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i know this is a little irrelevant but im writing a paper comparing paintings of muslim and christian women who cover their head, im having trouble finding alot of paintings of muslim women wearing a head covering....if anyone knows of any please let me know!

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I have a book called "Persian Painting: Five Royal Safavid Manuscripts of the Sixteenth Century" by Stuart Carey Welch. It's a collection of plates depicting scenes from Persian poetry (based on things like the Shahnameh and the story of Layla and Majnun) made during the Safavid era. My scanner's out of commission right now, otherwise I'd scan them, but I took a couple of pics of the ones that show women so that you can see what they look like.

I also found some plates that depict women that aren't in the book:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Layla_and_Majnun

Sorry about the flash. I'll scan the pics if my scanner gets better.

Edit: also, if you can get your hands on the book, there's a list of primary sources that have Safavid-era paintings and plates.
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I also found this painting while looking for something else:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wo...oy_in_1881.jpg

Not really related to the above, I love the outfit on the lower left of this picture (from thehijablog.wordpress.com):
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cheepmunk, the illuminated scripts are really beautiful!

it's interesting to see the same style in the books you find in france at the same period (ie. les tres riches heures du duc de berry)

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covered heads from the 70s (l'Officiel)
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