[Godot]

Was just checking the MSN headlines and came across this

http://www.slate.com/id/2128906/?GT1=7407

[The_Ida]

Any pictures of this?

[Alina]

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Originally Posted by The_Ida Any pictures of this?

there was a pic of the writer going "undercover" but not of the event cause it's 'private'

[mexico925]

Excellent article! Especially considering the average American's warped view of Islam and in light of the riots in France...

[Hanne]

I think diverse fashion statements are great, and there isn't much focus on non-western fashion in general.

I just want to remind members that the guidelines state :

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Absolutely no discussions of politics is allowed. As we all come from different parts of the world with varying liberal and conservative views, an attack or offensive comment against another nation, a head of state or international and national policies of other nations only leads to disputes -- all of which have nothing to do with fashion.

Please keep this in mind when you post

[The_Ida]

^It seems to me that there's so much criticism of Islam, yet I feel as if I know nothing about it.

I do like the scarves, though. I'd wear a Hermés if I were to cover up my hair

[softgrey]

this seems a bit contradictory..
i thought that the reason people wore the veils was modesty..
if they start wearing designer veils...
doesn't that make it vanity...
which i would assume is frowned upon...

something about this just seems 'wrong'......

[fashionista-ta]

I grew up in a fundamentalist Christian environment that strongly emphasized both modesty and femininity, and not surprisingly, this was met with a wide variety of interpretations, even within a single congregation. Muslims are no different--there's tremendous variety. I have worked with a number of Muslim women, and have noticed that some fairly conservative women dress with "flair," while others do not. Much like all other women ...

Sure, fashion subverts "modesty"

I fashion

I'm not surprised this event was a failure. They needed members of the target market heading it up, styling it, etc.

It's also true that you really can hardly put this look together in a regular store, and quite right that slits are a big part of the problem. I once considered attending a Muslim funeral in the summertime, and I (even though I have plenty of long skirts) literally had nothing to wear.

[Hipkitten]

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Originally Posted by softgrey this seems a bit contradictory.. i thought that the reason people wore the veils was modesty.. if they start wearing designer veils... doesn't that make it vanity... which i would assume is frowned upon... something about this just seems 'wrong'......

My thoughts exactly

I'd be interested in what some of our Muslim members think of this

[Alina]

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Originally Posted by Hipkitten My thoughts exactly I'd be interested in what some of our Muslim members think of this

I think that many people equate modesty with frumpy and ugly. There is nothing with trying to be modest and looking good at the same time. My problem is the obsession with everything designer and trends. When one chases after those two to look good, then they can rest assured they stepped over the bounds, in my books. Like fashionista-ta wrote, there's a lot of interpretation within anything in life. What is modest and looks good to me is not for someone else. (Yes I do wear the hijab.) By looking good, I mean nothing flashy and in your face but simple and elegant.

My two cents. Hope it was worth it.

[fashionista-ta]

Thanks, Alina, I think you explained that very well. I had looked for this thread a bit ago but couldn't find it ... I wanted to express that someone might wear an Hermes scarf because she finds it beautiful, not to show off. It may also be possible that some people have grown up so immersed in logos that they find them normal rather than vulgar--I don't know. I grew up in a very conservative city where alot of the people I knew probably considered any color more flamboyant than navy, tan, or burgundy vulgar. My only standard of modesty now is my own ... When I wear designer, it's not out of vanity (it's rather unlikely to be recognized by most people I see), it's because it's where I needed to go to find what I wanted to express.

[pucci_mama]

Just pop into Selfridges in the summer and you will see so much of theese logoed hijabs, i find it hillarious!

Chanel, Fendi, Dior..

[Dulcisima]

I honsetly dont see anything wrong with wearing designer hijabs and trying to be fashionable...U know hot pants were in fashion too...I dont think they can keep with such trend...And its a shame how people define modesty...Its not only the clothes...its the way you act and treat people...I know many girls from very wealthy and royal families in the Middle East..They have the latest fashion that you can desire...for their weddings all big name designers such as Karl from Chanel Coutre fly to sketch and discuss his designs with them...they are by far the most fashionable ladies I have ever seen..But the way they treat you is so modest...I remember I was at one of the palaces and I accidently knocked one of their decor glass statues ( which i feel so embarssed about)...all the maids were rushing to collect the glasses...and amongst them was the daughter of the king...imagine a daughter of a king kneeling to pick up bits and pieces of glasses along with the maids..now thats what i call modesty...

[Dulcisima]

What I find equally Hilarious is seeing people from head to toe in logo designers...at least its only the head scarf

[vikingqueen]

softgrey - to answer your post, yes, one of the main reasons we wear hijab is for modesty, and in fact for both men and women modest dress is encouraged, not only for your hair, but long sleeves, not too tight, etc.
however, for me modesty does not equate to dowdiness. i can be modest and still look nice. Think of it in this way - art tends to influence fashion (or vice versa), and if you look at Islamic art, it is some of the most ornate, gilded, some would say gaudy, work you will see. A recognition and celebration of beauty is enouraged in Islam. Once again, its simply a matter of not equating modesty with dullness - as long as you are dressed in a way that's not overlty sexy, what the heck is wrong with topping your outfit off with a hermes scarf?!

vanity only becomes a problem when you start to place more value on appearance rather than on what is truly important. that's true across the board, not just for muslims. i'm sure a lot of ppl here have been accused of being vain or materialistic, but i can attest to the fact that for me fashion represents beauty, and just because i am muslim does not mean i should be disallowed that enjoyment.