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So for everyone that likes the style, but not the message, I found this article about a Kaffiyeh Yisraelit. I think it's a pretty scarf not to mention that the model's eyes are gorgeous!

http://jewschool.com/?p=11485
interesting article

still dont think im sold on this design even if it is made for jews. but that is just me

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I had this discussion the other day, it was brought up in a meeting I attended about world politics..
I think it's sad to see people using this scarf as a fashion symbol, when it has become a national 'emblem' for a particular cause, may not have been to start off with but certainly since Arafat (ex-Palestinian president) started wearing it, it has become a pro-Palestinian symbol. This is the black and white scarf.
I think people who wear it, not knowing what it is about, or supportng the cause, is belittling teh cause and those who support it. Retailers and fashion designers or whoever sells these scarves should understand this and stop selling such things. (Black and white scarves)

Although I know they sell it in army stores. But, again they don;t sell it on grounds of fashion.

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I love these scarves. I love the way they look wrapped around the neck. I am well aware of the political association as well and since I support the Palestinian cause (AND a peaceful resolution in the region which insha Allah can be achieved one day sooner rather than later), I wear it with no qualms. Should anyone ask... I know the meaning of my fashion statement.


A djellaba is an outer garment that both men and women wear over their "regular" clothes when out in public. As far as I know the word "djellaba" is Moroccan, but the concept is Middle Eastern (ex: the abaya for women). This pic (from http://www.desertstore.com) is a good example of a common djellaba you would see in Morocco and is a woman's version (note the tassel on the hood that the man's version would never have). I have one that is similar, but with beautiful white details embroidered in the fabric. I wear it when visiting Morocco (my husband is Maghrebi), but I never wear it in the US. However it would not surprise me to see them on the streets here in the States one day. There are some BEAUTIFUL djellabas out there and they can look really pretty on if done right.


Ahh my Somali Muslim friends wear this..!

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some pictures i found that resemble kahfiyah scarfs but are not. i guess they can be a good alternative for those who want to wear the look but don't want to associate any political stance that come with it. they are from the alexander herchcovitch fw04 show from style.com
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that can definitely be a good alternative

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I love these scarves. I love the way they look wrapped around the neck. I am well aware of the political association as well and since I support the Palestinian cause (AND a peaceful resolution in the region which insha Allah can be achieved one day sooner rather than later), I wear it with no qualms. Should anyone ask... I know the meaning of my fashion statement.


A djellaba is an outer garment that both men and women wear over their "regular" clothes when out in public. As far as I know the word "djellaba" is Moroccan, but the concept is Middle Eastern (ex: the abaya for women). This pic (from http://www.desertstore.com) is a good example of a common djellaba you would see in Morocco and is a woman's version (note the tassel on the hood that the man's version would never have). I have one that is similar, but with beautiful white details embroidered in the fabric. I wear it when visiting Morocco (my husband is Maghrebi), but I never wear it in the US. However it would not surprise me to see them on the streets here in the States one day. There are some BEAUTIFUL djellabas out there and they can look really pretty on if done right.

You could most likely buy the kahfiyah (scarves) in almost any Islamic store in the UK that sells scarves and accessories (at least that's the case here in the States). But, you can buy them online too. Here are some links:
http://www.desertstore.com/products-...SA-ght-01.html
http://www.islamicboutique.com/prodd...p?prod=0208001
This site has a nice variety of colors: http://www.halalco.com/kefiya.html
There are more, but you just have to look around a bit.

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No offence meant at all..but that reminds me abit of the Ku Klux Clan and Abu Grabe...

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No offence meant at all..but that reminds me abit of the Ku Klux Clan and Abu Grabe...
None taken ! I can see your point, but they don't look that way on and in Morocco, I've seen more colorful than black!

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I really really doubt too many Jews are going to be hopping on the Kahfiyah bandwagon.
I have an Israeli bud who is pro-Palestine. Though I should ask what he thinks of the scarf. I doubt he would wear it. But he's used to coming off as an *** to his fellow Israelis.

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Could someone maybe buy me one and Fed-Ex it over?!? I really want one

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djellabea can be called 'djellabeab' or 'Kaftan' in some countries, I have my own collection..I love to wear them in home, they're so comfortable & cozy.

& that scarf is called 'Ghutra' or 'Shumagh' in other middle eastern countries.

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Could someone maybe buy me one and Fed-Ex it over?!? I really want one
Hi Tushka,
You can order one online, but it's hard to find nice quality online sometimes. I've looked around in some of the local shops here in Atlanta actually and I can't seem to find them in the usual places. I don't know what happened to them all; they used to be in all the Islamic stores, but they are nowhere to be found now. If I find one, I'll let you know.
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djellabea can be called 'djellabeab' or 'Kaftan' in some countries, I have my own collection..I love to wear them in home, they're so comfortable & cozy.

& that scarf is called 'Ghutra' or 'Shumagh' in other middle eastern countries.
In Morocco, the women would wear the kaftans only indoors and never ever outside unless it was under a djellaba. I have one kaftan I love made out of red silk that is SOOOO comfortable! My friend gave it to me and the next time I go to Morocco I hope to get a couple more. A fairly new trend for women in Morocco is the jabador (a Moroccan style long shirt and pants to match) and the last time I was there, I picked one up in the local souk. I'd love to have one custom made for me.

Here are a couple of cool sites I found with Moroccan fashion; take a look, it's not what you might imagine:
http://www.zahaara-haute-couture.com/
http://marocfashion.canalblog.com/


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^^ Thanks so much for trying to help! I managed to source a few out in an Islamic shop over here, and they are good quality! My friend is Islamic and she managed to find me some beautiful ones I'm quite enamoured with them...

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^^ Hey, that's good to hear! YAY!

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February 11, 2007 NY Times Sunday Styles
Where Some See Fashion, Others See Politics by KIBUM KBIM

Three months ago, Jay Hukahori, a 24-year-old fashion design student at Parsons, went to a party at Guesthouse, a club in Chelsea, in an outfit topped off by a kaffiyeh, a scarf with a black and white chain-link pattern and knotted tassels that is typically worn in Arab countries.

“I knew that with the doormen, it’d be easily identifiable as a hip accessory,” Ms. Hukahori said.

Once the trademark headwear of Yasir Arafat, and long associated with his Palestinian countrymen, the kaffiyeh has lately shown up on the shelves of adventurous boutiques in the United States and even mainstream retailers like Urban Outfitters.

Its newest wearers, who wrap it around the neck like a scarf, say they are less Fatah sympathizers than fashion party crashers. The kaffiyeh appears to be the dubious successor to last year’s Che Guevara T-shirts, a symbol denuded of any potent political associations by pop culture.

But not everyone finds it so simple a fashion statement. A blogger named Mobius, posting Jan. 16 on Jewschool, a Jewish blog that targets a young audience, blasted Urban Outfitters for selling kaffiyehs. Taking issue with the retailer’s decision to label the item an “anti-war woven scarf,” Mobius posted pictures of terrorists adorned in kaffiyehs.

The same day Urban Outfitters, which had offered the scarves in several color combinations for $20, pulled them from stores. Its Web site posted this explanation: “Due to the sensitive nature of this item, we will no longer offer it for sale. We apologize if we offended anyone, this was by no means our intention.” A spokeswoman for the store, which has 95 branches nationwide, declined to comment further.

Hanyi Lee, a graphic designer in New York, who had bought a kaffiyeh at Urban Outfitters and now owns three, didn’t intend anything provocative when she wore hers. “I didn’t think it was anything that heavy,” Ms. Lee said, noting that she takes fashion cues from a variety of cultures.
Ms. Hukahori thought it strange that Urban Outfitters would call the kaffiyeh (pronounced kuh-FEE-yeh) an antiwar scarf.

“That’s so cheap of Urban, a PR gambit,” she said. “But I think it’s great that this controversy will get kids to start learning about it.”

Clearly, many wearers have not considered the kaffiyeh’s political import. “I’m not too up to speed in what’s going on in the Middle East,” said Liz Chernett, a strategic consultant in branding and a youth trends expert who bought a kaffiyeh from a vendor on St. Mark’s Place three months ago. “It’s an aesthetic thing.”

Perhaps what is most telling about the mainstreaming of the kaffiyeh is what it says about the country’s political mood. The scarf’s popularity seems to have less to do with solidarity with Arabs than it has to do with the war in Iraq. Marketing it as an antiwar statement, as Urban Outfitters attempted, would probably have been even more controversial a few years ago, when the country was more divided about Iraq, said Ted Swedenburg, a professor of anthropology at the University of Arkansas, who blogs about pop culture, music and the Middle East.

In Britain, where voters are even more united against the war than Americans, the kaffiyeh’s fashionability has been taken a step farther. TopShop, the high-street juggernaut, is selling kaffiyehs stamped with skull prints, conflating two hot looks of the recent past.

Dr. Swedenburg said he thinks that the exotic element of the scarf becomes more important, and the political aspect less so, as it becomes mainstream. “It’s chic because it’s different,” he said. “It’s Eastern.”

According to Professor Swedenburg and others who have studied the history of the kaffiyeh, it was originally the headwear of Palestinian peasants, worn around the head and fastened in place by a band called an agal. In the insurrection against the British occupation from 1936 to 1939, the kaffiyeh became a symbol of Palestinian nationalism as well as an expression of class struggle. The insurgents forced upper-class Palestinians, who typically wore the Ottoman fez, to don the kaffiyeh to show sympathy with the fighters. The kaffiyeh rose in prominence again in the 1960s when the Palestinian resistance movement started and Arafat famously adopted it. “Above all, it’s important to remember a kaffiyeh is something to wear like a hat, to keep out the cold, keep out the sun,” said Rochelle Davis, an assistant professor of culture and society at Georgetown University's Center for Contemporary Arab Studies.

But if an older generation of Arabs still wears it as utilitarian headwear, the younger generation in the Middle East may wear it expressly to show support of the Palestinian cause, and it is also used by militants to disguise their faces. The black and white kaffiyeh is often associated with Fatah; the red and white with Hamas.

Many in the Jewish community, in particular, object to people wearing the scarf as a fashion statement. “Because there are people who wear the kaffiyeh as a sign of solidarity with Palestinians, some people view it as an endorsement of terrorism,” said Mik Moore, chairman of the board of directors for the Jewish Student Press Service, an independent nonprofit organization.

Dr. Swedenburg doesn’t think it should be viewed this way. “I think to associate it directly with terrorism is to tar all Palestinians with the brush of terrorism,” he said. “That’s a mischaracterization.”

Dr. Davis shares this opinion. “I think it diminishes its meaning and its value to just say ‘it’s been used by terrorists,’ ” he said. “I think it has a much richer history and a much richer meaning system than that.”

For those with a long memory, the current kaffiyeh craze may seem familiar. The scarves became a fashion statement in the United States at the start of the first intifada in 1987. In 1988, CBS News and Time magazine chronicled the trend. In a 1992 Michigan Quarterly Review article about the kaffiyeh’s modern history, Dr. Swedenburg wrote about how a “sign of Palestinian struggle suddenly appeared in the ensembles of ‘downtown’ U.S.A., together with black turtlenecks, ripped Levi’s, high-top sneakers and eight-zippered black leather jackets.”

In its 2007 revival, the kaffiyeh has similar sidekicks. “It’s hipster 101: I need my skinny jeans, some sort of scarf and a beat up T-shirt,” Ms. Hukahori said. “O.K., I’m a hipster now.”

Whether the scarf is seen as a political statement is usually in the eye of the beholder. “I think the meaning is given to it as much by the viewer as the wearer,” Dr. Davis said. “I see it and immediately think, ‘Is that person wearing it for a reason or just as a fashion accessory?’ ”

Ms. Chernett has not encountered any reactions to her kaffiyeh in New York but she has in cities like Philadelphia.

“I’ve gotten a lot of comments about it, like, ‘Doesn’t that support terrorists?’ ” she said. “ ‘Aren’t you Jewish?’ ” (Ms. Chernett said she is half-Jewish.)

Ms. Hukahori doesn’t have to answer any such questions; she hasn’t worn her kaffiyeh in public in months. It would never make her stand out with a club doorman today, she feels. The kaffiyeh, she said, is “dead.”

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