Lolita Chic - Page 19

zina · 08-12-2009

sources photobucket , fornarina

zina · 08-12-2009

source just jared

Also in my previous post the pics of Evan Rachel Wood are from allmoviephoto.com and swipelife.com

wings · 08-12-2009

can someone explain "lolita chic" in words?

papa_levante · 08-12-2009

Basically ...

Quote:

Lolita fashion is a fashion subculture originating in Japan that is primarily influenced by Victorian clothing as well as costumes from the Rococo period. Lolita has made this into a unique fashion by adding gothic and original design elements to the look. From this, Lolita fashion has evolved into several different sub styles and has created a devoted subculture in Japan. The Lolita look consists primarily of a knee length skirt or dress, headdress, blouse, petticoat, knee high socks or stockings and rocking horse or high heel/platform shoes.

I know that definition is mostly Japanese-based, but the same idea goes to those who sport the Lolita style outside of Japan: Victorian/Rococo, skirts, socks and stockings, etc.

Glittery_Bug · 08-12-2009

There's something ineffably erotic about this 'style' that I think is very difficult to condense into a coherent look unless it comes naturally, a la nymphet. I always think of Lolita as vaguely unkempt, feral and wearing rumpled (perhaps oversized too) and not necessarily sexy clothes. The teenage Dolores of the latter part of the book is perfectly evoked here:

"Her complexion was now that of any vulgar untidy high school girl who applies shared cosmetics with grubby fingers to an unwashed face and does not mind what soiled texture, what pustulate epidermis comes in contact with her skin. Its smooth tender bloom had been so lovely in former days, so bright with tears, when I used to roll, in play, her tousled head on my knee. A coarse flush had now replaced that innocent fluorescence. What was locally known as a "rabbit cold" had painted with flaming pink the edges of her contemptuous nostrils. As in terror I lowered my gaze, it mechanically slid along the underside of her tensely stretched bare thigh – how polished and muscular her legs had grown! She kept her wide-set eyes, clouded-glass gray and slightly bloodshot, fixed upon me, and I saw the stealthy thought showing through them that perhaps after all Monica was right, and she, orphan Lo, could expose me without getting penalized herself. How wrong I was. How mad I was! Everything about her was of the same exasperating impenetrable order – the strength of her shapely legs, the dirty sole of her white sock, the thick sweater she wore despite the closeness of the room, her wenchy smell, and especially the dead end of her face with its strange flush and freshly made-up lips. Some of the red had left stains on her front teeth, and I was struck by a ghastly recollection – the evoked image not of Monique, but of another young prostitute in a bell-house, ages ago, who had been snapped up by somebody else before I had time to decide whether her mere youth warranted my risking some appalling disease, and who had just such flushed prominent pommettes and a dead maman,and big front teeth, and a bit of dingy red ribbon in her country-brown hair."

Nabokov's Lolita - who is my favourite incarnation of the archetype - wouldn't bother with all this artificial ruffling and fuss and lace. She is more grubby than that, and all the better for it.

**saann** · 11-12-2009

I feel like lolita chic is all about the little timeperiod before 'entering' adulthood
as britney said: 'not a girl, not yet a woman'.. cheesy I know

as crazy and pedofilic this sounds it's almost like tainting the playful innocence of childhood with erotic undertones
..
ugh

ok this is making me sound deeply disturbed

blankpage · 14-12-2009

^ no. you're completely right, otherwise it wouldn't be considered sexy by the mass majority.

wings · 16-12-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by saann

I feel like lolita chic is all about the little timeperiod before 'entering' adulthood
as britney said: 'not a girl, not yet a woman'.. cheesy I know

as crazy and pedofilic this sounds it's almost like tainting the playful innocence of childhood with erotic undertones
..
ugh

ok this is making me sound deeply disturbed

that was what i was thinking about lolita chic, too. and that was also the reason why i asked

ediewho · 16-12-2009

photobucket ain't a source -per se- if the pics ain't posted in a URL you can quote right?

luluposh · 19-12-2009

I just came across this lady's Lookbook.nu page
http://lookbook.nu/user/12388-Misse-L

I am not sure if we can post the photos here, but definitely take a look for a European based Lolita chic. Some of her outfits are really very "cute", and she has a great variety of colours and accessories.

wings · 19-12-2009

^she looks like an adult who crys for the time when she was a kid....

cygnenoir · 19-12-2009

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Originally Posted by Bel

It would be nice to have separate threads for Japanese Lolita vs. Nabokov Lolita.

I love the Japanese style, and the boystyle variations.

I agree.

I find the Japanese style very innocent, a little ironic, and certainly not obviously sexual. And the Westerners who adopt this style seem to embrace the buttoned-up Victorianism of it.

For me, the other Lolita style (i.e. the Britney Spears photos that were posted) are young girls testing and pushing the boundaries of their sexuality for a reaction. That whole naughty school girl look.

neonsprinkles · 29-12-2009

I remember being really into this subculture a few years back when it was REALLY big. There are many different variations of Lolita (the most common being Gothic Lolita and Sweet Lolita, other variations include visual kei, a j-rock interpretation, and so on...)

Yes, it definitely is an influence from 18th century France and from the victorian/edwardian era of Europe. But this is yet another cycle of Japonisme (when Japanese aesthetic/culture became HUGE in europe around mid-to-late 1800s), and ever since then there has always been a strong connection between aesthetics from Japan-to-Europe.

When it comes to the sexual undertones, the lolita look can easily be pushed and molded into different directions. Some more playful/whimsical, some more girlish, some more sexual, some more menacing/obscure.

I remember checking out Lagerfeld's Chanel-TOKYO pre-fall collection in 2005 (for some reason, it's ridiculously difficult to find photos of). Very fitting, blurred the line between contemporary French and Japanese fashion.

redhotfuss · 29-12-2009

someone find me a killer lolita-goth inspired black trench coat... i can't find a good one anywhere!

noellejv · 23-01-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by luluposh

I just came across this lady's Lookbook.nu page
http://lookbook.nu/user/12388-Misse-L

I am not sure if we can post the photos here, but definitely take a look for a European based Lolita chic. Some of her outfits are really very "cute", and she has a great variety of colours and accessories.

I think this is more like scary cosplay that makes me a little bit sad. I still can't tell if it's 'Lolita Chic' or just this 'Pretty Young Things' thing, ie, no goth element.

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Glittery_Bug backstage pass Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 901	There's something ineffably erotic about this 'style' that I think is very difficult to condense into a coherent look unless it comes naturally, a la nymphet. I always think of Lolita as vaguely unkempt, feral and wearing rumpled (perhaps oversized too) and not necessarily sexy clothes. The teenage Dolores of the latter part of the book is perfectly evoked here: "Her complexion was now that of any vulgar untidy high school girl who applies shared cosmetics with grubby fingers to an unwashed face and does not mind what soiled texture, what pustulate epidermis comes in contact with her skin. Its smooth tender bloom had been so lovely in former days, so bright with tears, when I used to roll, in play, her tousled head on my knee. A coarse flush had now replaced that innocent fluorescence. What was locally known as a "rabbit cold" had painted with flaming pink the edges of her contemptuous nostrils. As in terror I lowered my gaze, it mechanically slid along the underside of her tensely stretched bare thigh – how polished and muscular her legs had grown! She kept her wide-set eyes, clouded-glass gray and slightly bloodshot, fixed upon me, and I saw the stealthy thought showing through them that perhaps after all Monica was right, and she, orphan Lo, could expose me without getting penalized herself. How wrong I was. How mad I was! Everything about her was of the same exasperating impenetrable order – the strength of her shapely legs, the dirty sole of her white sock, the thick sweater she wore despite the closeness of the room, her wenchy smell, and especially the dead end of her face with its strange flush and freshly made-up lips. Some of the red had left stains on her front teeth, and I was struck by a ghastly recollection – the evoked image not of Monique, but of another young prostitute in a bell-house, ages ago, who had been snapped up by somebody else before I had time to decide whether her mere youth warranted my risking some appalling disease, and who had just such flushed prominent pommettes and a dead maman,and big front teeth, and a bit of dingy red ribbon in her country-brown hair." Nabokov's Lolita - who is my favourite incarnation of the archetype - wouldn't bother with all this artificial ruffling and fuss and lace. She is more grubby than that, and all the better for it.

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saann I don't know Mod Squad Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Gender: femme Posts: 6,046	I feel like lolita chic is all about the little timeperiod before 'entering' adulthood as britney said: 'not a girl, not yet a woman'.. cheesy I know as crazy and pedofilic this sounds it's almost like tainting the playful innocence of childhood with erotic undertones .. ugh ok this is making me sound deeply disturbed

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blankpage scenester Join Date: Apr 2006 Gender: femme Posts: 92	^ no. you're completely right, otherwise it wouldn't be considered sexy by the mass majority.

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luluposh front row Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: The Big Smoke Gender: femme Posts: 467	I just came across this lady's Lookbook.nu page http://lookbook.nu/user/12388-Misse-L I am not sure if we can post the photos here, but definitely take a look for a European based Lolita chic. Some of her outfits are really very "cute", and she has a great variety of colours and accessories.

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wings fashion elite Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cassel Gender: femme Posts: 2,924	^she looks like an adult who crys for the time when she was a kid....

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neonsprinkles front row Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SF + LA Gender: homme Posts: 246	I remember being really into this subculture a few years back when it was REALLY big. There are many different variations of Lolita (the most common being Gothic Lolita and Sweet Lolita, other variations include visual kei, a j-rock interpretation, and so on...) Yes, it definitely is an influence from 18th century France and from the victorian/edwardian era of Europe. But this is yet another cycle of Japonisme (when Japanese aesthetic/culture became HUGE in europe around mid-to-late 1800s), and ever since then there has always been a strong connection between aesthetics from Japan-to-Europe. When it comes to the sexual undertones, the lolita look can easily be pushed and molded into different directions. Some more playful/whimsical, some more girlish, some more sexual, some more menacing/obscure. I remember checking out Lagerfeld's Chanel-TOKYO pre-fall collection in 2005 (for some reason, it's ridiculously difficult to find photos of). Very fitting, blurred the line between contemporary French and Japanese fashion.

29-12-2009	284
redhotfuss backstage pass Join Date: Jan 2006 Gender: femme Posts: 840	someone find me a killer lolita-goth inspired black trench coat... i can't find a good one anywhere!