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18-10-2006
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Oh no :| I find it so off putting

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Most of the time in my opinion it doesn't work out, but sometimes it can look cute, I think, when they match it with a "rugged manly" style, like, I liked the last picture with the black skirt and cigg in softgrey's article.

I'm trying to think what it's saying when it does work... "I'm so... chilled, I'm not afraid of wearing a skirt. And obviously, it's not because I want to be a girl. I'm just not afraid of anything, I'll wear what I want and I'll do what I want, I won't be limited by stereotypes...so get over it..." (very strong personality)

When it doesn't work it seems more like "I'd like to be a drag queen, but I'm too shy to go all the way". So... I'm not comfortable with a guy who's wearing a skirt AND pumps (or something else very feminine) but, he still says he's not dressing in drag. They just seem in denial and dishonest. Which is the opposite of being cool and self-confident.

EDIT I should be clear that I'm ok with guys in drag if they acknowledge that's what they're doing. I mean it doesn't rock MY world personally but as long as people are being honest with themselves!

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23-10-2006
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Most of the time in my opinion it doesn't work out, but sometimes it can look cute, I think, when they match it with a "rugged manly" style, like, I liked the last picture with the black skirt and cigg in softgrey's article.

I'm trying to think what it's saying when it does work... "I'm so... chilled, I'm not afraid of wearing a skirt. And obviously, it's not because I want to be a girl. I'm just not afraid of anything, I'll wear what I want and I'll do what I want, I won't be limited by stereotypes...so get over it..." (very strong personality)

When it doesn't work it seems more like "I'd like to be a drag queen, but I'm too shy to go all the way". So... I'm not comfortable with a guy who's wearing a skirt AND pumps (or something else very feminine) but, he still says he's not dressing in drag. They just seem in denial and dishonest. Which is the opposite of being cool and self-confident.

EDIT I should be clear that I'm ok with guys in drag if they acknowledge that's what they're doing. I mean it doesn't rock MY world personally but as long as people are being honest with themselves!
So in the same line of thinking, what should guys think of women in slacks and loafers? Should they think they are in drag as well? Why can't the idea of "drag" only be applied to men? Women literally "borrowed" from men and is never labeled as crossdressers but the moment men dress in shoes with heels or skirt like garments they are labeled crossdresers. Such a truely stange phenomenon...........

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23-10-2006
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I love that

That just proves to me people have distorted images of what goes for what sex. Men,centuries ago wore skirts,tunics(everything percieved as for women nowadays),long before women.
Thats all I have to say.

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So in the same line of thinking, what should guys think of women in slacks and loafers? Should they think they are in drag as well? Why can't the idea of "drag" only be applied to men? Women literally "borrowed" from men and is never labeled as crossdressers but the moment men dress in shoes with heels or skirt like garments they are labeled crossdresers. Such a truely stange phenomenon...........
actually women who dress masculine can be known as drag kings

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^ True, and while "menswear" trends are a bit more common in women's wear than "metrosexual" trends are in men's wear, it's like the same rule applies:

Go ahead and add some other elements of the other gender's cultural territory (eg., males, put on some nailpolish, females, slap on a tie) but, if you don't want to be considered in drag, this part is essential, you MUST pair these territory-breaking pieces with something very traditionally "your" gender territory. Ladies, wear sexy makeup (maybe red lips) with your tie (standard men's wear look), and gentlemen, wear masculine/aggressive looking clothing with your nailpolish (emo, punk).

If we do not make it clear to the observer that we are intentionally taking from BOTH territories, it's not suprising if the observer concludes we are trying to switch camps. Typically, when a person is decked out in only what the other gender traditionally wears, they really are trying to identify as the other gender.

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If we do not make it clear to the observer that we are intentionally taking from BOTH territories, it's not suprising if the observer concludes we are trying to switch camps. Typically, when a person is decked out in only what the other gender traditionally wears, they really are trying to identify as the other gender.
Excellent point, Yasmin. As a male who enjoys wearing heels and on occasion, a skirt, I've always tried to ensure the rest of my wardrobe was masculine. When I go out in heels, it's never anything feminine, other than the fact that the heel is between 3 and 4 inches. The rest of the boot (usually) would appear quite normal if the heel were 1/2". I usually wear them with jeans which cover most of the heel, and my favorite charcoal gray shirt.

Whenever I wear my ankle-length, black denim skirt, it's never with heels (too many cross-gendered messages), and it's usually with the same charcoal gray shirt.

I've about twenty pair of heels. All of the ones I wear outside (most of them) would blend with the men's shoe departments if the heel were lowered to 1/2" or less.

No one's ever confused me with being a member of the opposite gender while dressed this way.

However, this is my personal preference, and I respect the preference of others to dress however they like, even if they do present themselves as a member of the opposite gender.

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I feel men should wear thongs, skirts, dresses, lipstick, wonderbrahs and hair extensions. Why should only women be allowed to wear such things, its racialistic i feel. Men are being discriminated by the fashionsociety!

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I've always been attracted to skirts,myself. Not of the frilly kind of course. But there's something about the volume and layering that's intrigued me. I haven't worn one yet but I wouldn't ashamed,so long as I wear something longer underneath Plus,I think in some ways,its almost like women wearing "strong" sharply cut suits(very masculine),you get in touch with that other side of who you are if you don't mind the cliche. But its true. Also,with volume,it has alot to do with feelings in the way it moves and the romanticsm those things tend to posess. Which we all have in us.

And what's with that comment "only to seek attention"? Not I!
Bingo!

As for it looking metrosexual, homosexual, or otherworldly, please allow me to remind you that a full third of the men on our planet routinely wear skirted garments: http://www.kiltmen.com/world.htm

By the way, they're far more comfortable than pants!

There are perhaps 50,000 males worldwide who have reverted to the pre-1700 edict that men wear pants, for a variety of reasons, including the fact that it just gives "the boys" a chance to breath, something which has been overwhelmingly substantiated by modern science. This fact is heavily substantiated by the sharp reduction in births among Western (aka, pant-wearing) civilizations.

Uh, and Duh - be a real man as God designed and go skirted!

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I'd wear a kilt if I had one.

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11-12-2006
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i think kilts are fit!!

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¿Is the time for men in Skirts?
In the past we saw men in skirts, but this year a lot of designers show skirts in men colection.

The New York Times in "The moment"
http://themoment.blogs.nytimes.com/2...ing-the-issue/
Show the "Skirt Moment"



Mark Jacobs




Comme des Garçons




Jean-Paul Gaultier




Number (N)ine





Rick Owens

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28-01-2009
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"All the images in the previus post are from The New York Times.".
This is the original Link

themoment.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/26/mens-fashion-skirting-the-issue


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The first Pic is from Reuters and Dan Ashby is the photograph from all the other pic

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omg Marc J. looks absolutely ridiculous with this Stephen P. thights .....
Neon meets BlingBlingGothBraveHearts ......

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