Kimora Lee Simmons

[Kimkhuu]

Originally posted by Chachka@Sep 5 2004, 02:14 PM
Ok... ppl... first you say that she's not a designer, now you say that she is a bad one...

And there's no need to bash me for my opinions, is there?

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We're bashing KIMORA not you!!!

[slinky_vagabond]

Originally posted by PrinceOfCats@Sep 5 2004, 02:22 PM
First let's deal with the woman herself - she's a nasty piece of work who treats people like **** from the sounds of it. Being deliberately pictured with servants shows well her aspirations to 'aristocracy' and also her support for an exploitative system. Her house is in apalling bad taste and no European aristocrat (which is clearly what she aspires to) would touch it with a 6 foot bargepole. Her chosen husband, Russell, is complete scum - he's an exploitative mysoginistic moron who would do the world a service by taking an axe to his own neck.

The clothes are not fashion. Kimora does not design the clothes herself. The clothes are made by a team of designers who rip-off whatever is trendy at the moment. The intellectual content of the designs is about zero. Whatever their dubious aesthetic merits the clothes aren't fashion.

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unk: Go Prince!

I dump on Kimora for the same reason I dump on conservative radio talkshow hosts- I hate people who don't know what they're talking about. She's a new-money trophy wife bimbo who prattles on and on about the creativity and style she doesn't have.

[Spike413]

Originally posted by Chachka@Sep 5 2004, 01:37 PM
/\ how classy you are, though... Yet, you think that you're knowledgable and can judge about fashion.
Are you jealous that she's been modelling since she was a child? How did she cross your path?
Allthough, you can bitch and be miserable if you want... this discussion is going nowhere.

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Sweetie, that's the difference between Kimora and myself, I'm not trying to be something I'm not. I don't claim to be classy, I leave that for others to decide. Yes, I do think I'm knowledgable, I possess a decent amount of knowledge about fashion and I feel that I'm able to use that knowledge to forge my own opinion about Kimora.

As far as being jealous, no, I'm hardly jealous of Kimora for two reasons. One, I don't find her particularly pretty, Karl Lagerfeld did, that doesn't mean the rest of the world agreed with him about her beauty. And two, I want to make it on my own in whatever venture I choose to take in my future, not depend on my rich rap-mogul husband and ex-muse status to get me there.

I have no ill feelings towards you for feeling how you do. I'm simply offering my perspective on Kimora. As clothes, I don't mind it, it's not necessarily my taste, but if you want to wear it, fine. As fashion, I despise it because I have high standards when it comes to talent, if not for the design itself, then for something else in the creative process.

Now, that is all I have to say about Kimora because I don't like her and I'm sick of hearing about her.

[bohemian rhapsody]

Originally posted by slinky_vagabond@Sep 5 2004, 02:03 PM
unk: Go Prince!

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Amen!

I cannot STAND Kimora! Blech!

[Chachka]

/\ Spike413, if only you said that from the beginning!
My respect!

[Chachka]

I do wonder though, what fashionistas like you would think of me, if you saw me in my BP tracksuit...
too bad it's the only track suit that fits me great...
But fortunately, I don't use my clothes for political or whatever statements, so don't read to much into it...

And yes, I've also wondered, why the heck does she need servants in her ads... So lame!
And even the wording on her website... She makes it sound like it's a privilege to wear BP... and it's not that exepensive... She's very poorly bred...
And when you brouse her website, her evil eyes are on the border of the screen which makes it a kinda weird experience...
And with regards to the very name, what does it actually mean? Baby Privilege?

[onehotgrrl]

I guess they would think you are a tasteless, tacky ('cause its used to describe everything unfashionable) urban clothes wearer.

Thats not my opinion though, I believe people should be able to wear what they please so long as it makes them happy.

[Chachka]

Well... it's nice to be tacky every once in a while...

[Spike413]

I don't know why onehotgrrl seems to think that those of us who don't think of urban clothing lines as fashion would think that someone who wears the clothes is less then we are. I obviously can't speak for everybody else, but I don't judge peoples' class by what they wear..........that's just way too shallow for me.

[onehotgrrl]

Well then I stand corrected. For example- if you came across a woman who was wearing a Baby Phat ensemble, with a knock-off LV purse and Manolo Blahnik Oklahoma's (timbs)....would you agree that poster's on this forum would use the words 'tacky' 'tasteless' 'fashion victim' to describe said person?

Or do those words describe the CLOTHES but not the INDIVIDUAL?

[Luna]

I cannot make a "gross" face enough at the mere mention of her name.

[Spike413]

Originally posted by onehotgrrl@Sep 6 2004, 05:59 PM
Well then I stand corrected. For example- if you came across a woman who was wearing a Baby Phat ensemble, with a knock-off LV purse and Manolo Blahnik Oklahoma's (timbs)....would you agree that poster's on this forum would use the words 'tacky' 'tasteless' 'fashion victim' to describe said person?

Or do those words describe the CLOTHES but not the INDIVIDUAL?

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Lets put it this way, I wouldn't call it tacky because she's wearing baby phat, I'd call it if that's how I felt, regardless of the label. And tacky clothes are a reflection of the individual, so even if the person isn't a tacky person, their style could very well be.

[OCHANELO]

Originally posted by PrinceOfCats@Sep 5 2004, 03:22 PM
First let's deal with the woman herself - she's a nasty piece of work who treats people like **** from the sounds of it. Being deliberately pictured with servants shows well her aspirations to 'aristocracy' and also her support for an exploitative system. Her house is in apalling bad taste and no European aristocrat (which is clearly what she aspires to) would touch it with a 6 foot bargepole. Her chosen husband, Russell, is complete scum - he's an exploitative mysoginistic moron who would do the world a service by taking an axe to his own neck.

The clothes are not fashion. Kimora does not design the clothes herself. The clothes are made by a team of designers who rip-off whatever is trendy at the moment. The intellectual content of the designs is about zero. Whatever their dubious aesthetic merits the clothes aren't fashion.

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I second that

[Chachka]

Originally posted by Spike413@Sep 7 2004, 12:39 AM
Lets put it this way, I wouldn't call it tacky because she's wearing baby phat, I'd call it if that's how I felt, regardless of the label. And tacky clothes are a reflection of the individual, so even if the person isn't a tacky person, their style could very well be.

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person... clothes....
I really don't give a sh!t...
If we stopped buying clothes b/c we didn't like the person designing it, or a person somehow affiliated with it... Damn! We'd be naked!
I doubt that Kimora is all that bad... not worse than any other celebrity...

[Chachka]

And I just visited her website, and gotta agree with Karl, she's gorgeous!