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29-11-2009
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Well, some may hate what I'm going to say but I think it's somehow sad that things always have to change. Why did they feel the need to include people who, some time ago, weren't supposed to be here? It's like thinking the whole concept of elitism is a bad thing. And I'm just not talking about the BDD... Now they put BLOGGERS front row at some shows... It's just crazy to me...
I completely agree with most of what you all have said on this page; I think it is so sad that this event has changed and in such a negative way. There are certain traditions here in "Old Europe" which should remain so, and should not feel the need to include individuals who have not been born or bred into this social arena (by that I mean - they come from Aristocratic/Upper Class families). I think its actually tacky that the only reason that Sea of Shoes was part of the event, was through an invitation of Vogue?
It is not just her though, there are other questionable débutantes from previous years - daughters of film stars/motorsports millionaires...

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Although I agree with some of the points made regarding the non-traditional debutantes, I also think that it's a viable way of keeping the event slightly more hip and known, and yes, it might be risking the prestige but to think it's dragging it to the floor would be an exaggeration.
The event as a whole is kind of ridiculous.. perhaps it's my very across-the-Atlantic mentality but it just seems off considering the times, the fact that the suggested 'old-Europe' way of thinking no longer has a place as the rest of the world keeps struggling to open up to diversity and break classist/elitist parameters.. so, as an idea, it's positive to keep on doing.. to remind people of your past, but to follow strictly as in past centuries with all related prejudice and elitism?, sounds more like a waste.

Jane looks lovely by the way.. she's very mature and confident for someone her age and I love how she can carry a striped dress with such elegance.
I also think that if we're going to compare, I think Jane looks around a few thousand bucks while 'aristocrat' girls like this..

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.. excuse me, but barely the few dollars it might cost another similar-looking spring breaker sunbathing in South Beach.

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I think that the inclusion of Jane has paid off for the organisers. Because we are all talking about the event,and she has given it a fair bit of publicity which it might not have otherwise garnered. As much as it may be seen to be outdated to some,I love the idea of debutante balls. And I'm with Luluposh on this one. I think that it is a shame that it has changed so much. The deb ball in The UK has just been reinstated I believe

As for Kitty ^ ^, I don't know what was going through her mind If anything at all. I have met her on a few occasions,and I didn't expect anything like what she was wearing. Jane did look good in chanel,and Francesca Eastwood also looked very beautiful. But the best girl for me has to be Autumn Whitaker

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Who is Jane?

Autumn Whitaker is the spitting image of her very beautiful mother.


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^Jane Aldridge,who's blog is Seaofshoes

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I think that the inclusion of Jane has paid off for the organisers. Because we are all talking about the event,and she has given it a fair bit of publicity which it might not have otherwise garnered. As much as it may be seen to be outdated to some,I love the idea of debutante balls. And I'm with Luluposh on this one. I think that it is a shame that it has changed so much. The deb ball in The UK has just been reinstated I believe

As for Kitty ^ ^, I don't know what was going through her mind If anything at all. I have met her on a few occasions,and I didn't expect anything like what she was wearing. Jane did look good in chanel,and Francesca Eastwood also looked very beautiful. But the best girl for me has to be Autumn Whitaker
I basically agree with your views as well

but on one point I differ is: well has it really paid off? Sure, we're talking about it, but its hardly in a positive light. Though there are so many issues of political correctness that its often difficult to say anything at all!

No, but what I meant was, if the inclusion of Jane resulted to the public going "oh yay! meritocracy/egalitarianism is awesome! - the organisers are so progressive!" then I suppose that could be a positive for the organisers.

However I think that the inherent contradictions of this event - an event that is by definition elitist, or perhaps more neutrally "closed", the concept of making it more accessible or relateable is just kind of nonsensical.

I mean its no big deal, but I suppose its an interesting talking point when considering social changes and such.

PS. I'm not dissing any of the individual girls btw! I think Autumn is the "belle of the ball" here - she looks stunning. In fact all the girls look quite pretty, though I can't say I love many of the dresses.

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I also think Autumn is the belle-of-le-Bal!

dumbfairy - yes, you're right! The UK has reinstated it's ball. I'm with you on this, I love the tradition of these balls. I have followed le Bal des Débutantes for quite a long time, and I have had friends who have been escorts, so it interests me.

For those who have never heard of this particular event, the inclusion of Jane has made it more well-known to people who follow her blog, but in terms of advantageous publicity for the ball, well I hardly think it matters that they included her, because this is not an event that needs publicity to round up the next set of females for next year's event, if you understand what I am saying.


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Autumn was definitely the belle of the ball. But her mum - WOW!!!! what she wore to the ball and the cocktail was magnificent!!!!!!!! best dressed mum of the night.

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That is just one tacky dress. She should have gone with another Indian designer, maybe Anamika Khanna, or Rohit Bal, or even Sabyasachi.



I agree, that princess's dress is....hideous. It looks like there's a row of cabbages along the hem, and I've always thought Ritu Beri was an awful 'designer'. Really wish this girl had worn something else (if she wanted OTT, wouldn't Manish Arora have done just as well?).
Jane looked cute though. The dress she was wearing actually looked nice with her red hair, and I liked the collar and sleeves. And Autumn Whitaker looked absolutely glowing- it was nice to see at least some of the dresses managing to be pretty and appropriate for teenagers, while others most definitely were...not (too revealing, for a start).

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Look, I don't think we're being outdated/elitist if that is what you're trying to get at. Because realistically this is the 21st century, and no one (well not me and almost no one I know) holds views that uphold the rigid class rules and social barriers of 17th/18th century europe.

But taking this event for what it is - an elitist ball for "the elites", well its farcical and ridiculous when half the people here are randoms.
I agree with that. If you want to update, update. Don't keep the same format and change the cast with people completely disconnected from the traditions you claim to pass on. At this point, it's just a bunch of randoms playing dress-up.

And there is nothing negative per se about 'elitism'. The cult of excellence in all things is a good thing. It is because of elitism that we have museums, stately houses, haute couture, opera houses, etc.
It only becomes an ugly word when the elite itself stop upholding its own standards and just becomes common, vice-riden, prejudicied average-joes with money.
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I also think that if we're going to compare, I think Jane looks around a few thousand bucks while 'aristocrat' girls like this..
.. excuse me, but barely the few dollars it might cost another similar-looking spring breaker sunbathing in South Beach.
Kitty, sadly, is an extremely common looking girl. She always looks trashy.
I don't want to offend our fellow South-African Tsfer but I think this is in good part due to her growing up in the party scene of Cape Town rather than in more conservative rural England (although they are plenty of British toffs raised in Glouthestershire who look like this too, of course).
She remind me of Chelsy Davy before she came to England: cheap oversexed clothes, fried white hair, over-tanned skin, the classic appearance of a wealthy beach party girl.

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Unfortunately there is to be no Crillon Ball this year, due to renovations at the Crillon Hotel. But I've just read that a documentary is being made about the 2011 Crillon Ball Can you imagine how good that will be? So excited! more info

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Does anyone have any info on this years debutantes? I understand the ball is today.

I read that one of Bruce Willis and Demi Moore's daughters is taking part.

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yeah, I heard Tallulah is and Scout did it in 2008. Terrible choices in my opinion. they are the kids of movie stars and they get invited? I have mutual friends with the girls, they are hardly the epitome of class.

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A list of this year's debutantes and the respective fashion houses that they'll be wearing: http://wikifashion.com/wiki/Crillon_Ball/2011

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