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18-12-2012
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Claire Danes is just amazing in this role. She gives EVERYTHING to Carries craziness even if she looks bad, I mean not pretty. I think for a young actress it´s only logical to "save" some of her femininity and try not to look all snotty and dirty. Yet Claire gives Carrie a rawness and darkness that´s far from her usual cheery and pretty self. In Hollywood it´s so usual to see characters that are supposedly suffering a lot....but always composed and made up, and with their hair carefully blown. Carrie is a mess inside and outside and that´s a brilliant job by the actor. She deserves every award, past present and future.
Well, yes and no. She is also more intelligent that most people and has performed exceedingly well at her job. So if she's not typical, it's really questionable to call her a mess. Like Sal so wisely said, she is both the smartest AND the most stupid.

In a way, it's hilarious, here we have a female Jack Bauer and the only way we can be made to believe this of a woman is that she has a mental disorder - that explains her crazed gaze and her extreme focus. And then when she does excel at the outer limits of human ability - we call her a mess inside and out. Simply because she does not have measured movements and her hair isn't styled.

It says something about our perception of women and their role in society, doesn't it?

EDIT: Realized this became a bit confrontational. I really think you have a good point - and also thought provoking


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Well, yes and no. She is also more intelligent that most people and has performed exceedingly well at her job. So if she's not typical, it's really questionable to call her a mess. Like Sal so wisely said, she is both the smartest AND the most stupid.

In a way, it's hilarious, here we have a female Jack Bauer and the only way we can be made to believe this of a woman is that she has a mental disorder - that explains her crazed gaze and her extreme focus. And then when she does excel at the outer limits of human ability - we call her a mess inside and out. Simply because she does not have measured movements and her hair isn't styled.

It says something about our perception of women and their role in society, doesn't it?

EDIT: Realized this became a bit confrontational. I really think you have a good point - and also thought provoking

I agree on many of your points, I see what you mean.

I only meant that it is unusual to see characters played that raw, on TV.

When I say that Carrie is a mess, I could say the same about Saul, they´re lonely people, they take very poor care of their lives and affective lives, they have no friends to talk about their lives, they follow feverishly their impulses and their fabulous brains, even if that means living only for their works.

When I say (maybe being too emphatic) that Saul and Carrie are messes, I mean that their works make them be lonely and not take good care of themselves. House was a mess too, Jack Bauer also of course.

It´s not only a matter of being a woman. heros/heroines are sometimes lonely guys and women.
Carrie and Saul are endearing characters, but in a way, they´re self destructive.

Great debate, I love when characters and plots can give place to a little debate.

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I've started watching Prisoners of War, the Israeli series that Homeland is based on.

I'm only 2 episodes in, but it's so interesting to see the similarities and the differences. PoW is slower and more emotional, not as suspenseful as Homeland, but it's what makes it feel more real. You really feel for the prisoners; they're so broken and frail and not at all like Brody.

Oh, and Homeland's Dana is a goody-two-shoes compared to PoW's Dana!

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So the show is back and I've just watched the second episode. The first one wasn't so good for me to be honest, the second one was better. Carrie's storyline brings drama and it's interesting but I miss Brody. I do not know if he can be trusted but I do love the chemistry they have together (with Carrie) and I miss that. It's like there's some void waiting to be filled.

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I feel like I'm the only one not bothered by what happened, like.. It was obvious they were building up to this point of having the series without Brody. Just looking forward to what comes next season.

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I feel like I'm the only one not bothered by what happened, like.. It was obvious they were building up to this point of having the series without Brody. Just looking forward to what comes next season.
The producers said they are going to follow Carrie as she works abroad just doing her job, including a few different storylines. I just hope they'll bring Saul back.

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This show is losing me... last season was boring(Brodie's storyline was predictable), and it's just so unbelievable that someone with Carrie's issues would work for the CIA, let alone as a point person abroad. Meh.

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Actress, drama series
Lizzy Caplan, Masters of Sex (Showtime)
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Kerry Washington, Scandal (ABC)
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Aaron Paul, Breaking Bad (AMC)
Jim Carter, Downton Abbey (PBS)
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Mandy Patinkin, Homeland (Showtime)
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