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Too much for my brain to comprehend......seriously that question gets me all
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imagine walking in a straight line on planet earth, you would think that you were walking further and further away from your starting point but eventually u would cover the entire circumference and end up where you started, if you know what i mean.

BTW it wasn't that long ago that we thought the earth was flat!!

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You haven't really proved yourself right yet
Maybe the reason we get answers like 'it just is' is because the people we are asking don't know the answers themselves. I've never been satisfied with the answer 'it just is'. Maybe its my upbringing. Maybe you arent crazy, maybe you are completely right

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I said maybe

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My poor , stressed brain cannot handle this.

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If I could porove myself right I'd be a billionaire

I'm going to go off and think like a child about this one

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yes! i do have an issue with spelling prove!!!!!!!!!!

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The thing I have to question is... does it matter? Does it matter if we know how we're derived, or born, as a kind? Overall, I see how it gives some a sense of being, but still... there are always questions left uananswered, and as human beings, I feel that we can only get so much answered without basing certain things on assumptions.

It may seem pertinent to some to have an answer, just an answer, for it all. Some get that through religion, some through philosophy, and some just plain don't. Whatever. And that's okay, either way. But in this lifetime (people who believe in life after death, excluded ), what difference will it make if we find the answers? Just to have peace of mind?

I don't mean to offend everybody. But that's been at the back of my mind concerning this issue.

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but dont you think its unethical? cloning and all the other crap we as humans are trying to do? why are we trying to become god?
i think were gonna blow up if we go on....

the ancient egyptians were destroyed when they got extra smart...there are many other civilizations that ceased to exist because they got smarter than they were supposed to be.

i dont know if any of you heard this before but there was a civilization that got so damn smart at making calulations (of all kinds) that they knew things people werent supposed to know, even predict the future accurately.
God sent Gabriel down on the earth and asked him to talk to the people there...he went to a couple of kids and asked them of their knowledge. he then asked him if they could tell if there was any angel around. the kids spent a few minutes calculating (astronomy etc) and then they told Gabriel that there was indeed an angel very close by!
and that was that. the civilization was destroyed then. (reference: Quran)

so it all really boils down to the fact that we dont know anything! we seem smart now, but we never know where the knowledge ends...

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I think these are the most important questions you can ask, how else are we going to evolve if we don't question how we began, where we are going etc.? (especially when we have the potential to blow ourselves up)

I just read something that caught my eye whilst browsing string theories. In its final form string theory should be able to provide answers to answer questions like:

Where do the four forces that we see come from?
Why do we see the various types of particles that we do?
Why do particles have the masses and charges that we see?
Why do we live in 4 spacetime dimensions?
What is the nature of spacetime and gravity?

So maybe science will hold the answers.

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and whats predestination?!?! anyone???

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I don't think religion should hold back our advances as a race of human beings. I don't think we are completely stupid, give us some credit.

I'll comment on your story saad when you quote from the Qu'ran and tell the story completely.

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and that was that. the civilization was destroyed then. (reference: Quran)

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maybe God was pissed off that we outsmarted him

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and whats predestination?!?! anyone???
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Look at it this way, predestination is the knowledge by god of what choices you will make and where you will go. If I had a time machine, I could go to the future (theoretically) and see what happenes with you, what you will become, however, I do not act on your choices, you still have free will to choose them yourself. What I find very destructive is blamingg everything on destiny and not taking the initiative to improve your own life. In Islam, this life is a test is it not Saad? Now you take predestination and you tell me why we should hold back.

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Originally Posted by Tuti*Fruiti,Aug 20 2004, 06:36 PM
and that was that. the civilization was destroyed then. (reference: Quran)

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maybe God was pissed off that we outsmarted him
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Maybe someone didnt tell the whole story

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Originally posted by Tuti*Fruiti@Aug 20 2004, 12:29 PM
I think these are the most important questions you can ask, how else are we going to evolve if we don't question how we began, where we are going etc.? (especially when we have the potential to blow ourselves up)

I just read something that caught my eye whilst browsing string theories. In its final form string theory should be able to provide answers to answer questions like:

Where do the four forces that we see come from?
Why do we see the various types of particles that we do?
Why do particles have the masses and charges that we see?
Why do we live in 4 spacetime dimensions?
What is the nature of spacetime and gravity?

So maybe science will hold the answers.
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Apart from the last one which is so vague it could mean anything, all of of those questions have already been answered fairly comprehensively.

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