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Crystal Renn ... See Post #1 for Thread Rules.
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US HARPER'S BAZAAR DECEMBER 2010

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^SHe looks gorgeous no doubt and very happy to see her in US Bazaar, but I have to agree they look so photoshopped and Crystal doesnot need it at all.

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Here's my two cents where Crystal is concerned: Clients don't call her agencies looking for a plus size model and she just happens to fit the bill. They call for Crystal Renn.

She's created an brand that defies categorization. She is not simply a "plus-sized" model, and to be able to effectively reach many markets is something that should be celebrated. Crystal is still of a more socially normative and relatable size than most of the girls on the runway so to start confirming their editorials and campaigns is rather progressive if nothing else.

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I completely agree that Crystal's has done a great deal to diversify the runway and fashion at large. She's practically been the sole face of body diversity and the plus size movement, and you're right, she has created her own category. I also think it's great that she is getting campaigns and editorials in the mainstream straight size world. And I hope she continues to do so.

However, speaking strictly about the continued use of Crystal to represent the plus size movement (and this is perhaps more directed at the plus size clientele that continue to hire her than Crystal herself) but to use her as the face of a plus size brand right now is kind of ridiculous. Evans UK, for example, starts at a size UK14 (US12) and they continue to use Crystal in their campaigns. She is at the most a size 8 right now. For them to use her when she literally is too small to shop in the store is absurd. I realize that fashion is meant to be aspirational and Crystal is considered both a relatable yet aspirational figure, however to put it bluntly, at the size she is right now she is not relatable to a modern plus size shopper. One that would probably shop at Evans UK. Yet this is, in part, the way she has continued to be marketed. Though, don't take this to mean that I don't think she shouldn't represent the everyday "normal sized" woman, she can and she should. But, think of it this way, you wouldn't cast a size 16 model to represent a straight size brand (that capped out at a size 12) so I don't see why you would cast a size 6/8 model to represent a plus size brand.

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^ I agree 100%. You couldn't have said it better.

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I usually adore Paola Kudacki's work but this one, not so much. And yeah, there is some funky retouching going on.

A more natural - though lightly padded in the bust! - Crystal follows (forgive me, I can't be bothered with all the resizing, etc)

http://www.blutimefashion.com/wp-con...0-internet.pdf

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you are absolutely right!

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I completely agree that Crystal's has done a great deal to diversify the runway and fashion at large. She's practically been the sole face of body diversity and the plus size movement, and you're right, she has created her own category. I also think it's great that she is getting campaigns and editorials in the mainstream straight size world. And I hope she continues to do so.

However, speaking strictly about the continued use of Crystal to represent the plus size movement (and this is perhaps more directed at the plus size clientele that continue to hire her than Crystal herself) but to use her as the face of a plus size brand right now is kind of ridiculous. Evans UK, for example, starts at a size UK14 (US12) and they continue to use Crystal in their campaigns. She is at the most a size 8 right now. For them to use her when she literally is too small to shop in the store is absurd. I realize that fashion is meant to be aspirational and Crystal is considered both a relatable yet aspirational figure, however to put it bluntly, at the size she is right now she is not relatable to a modern plus size shopper. One that would probably shop at Evans UK. Yet this is, in part, the way she has continued to be marketed. Though, don't take this to mean that I don't think she shouldn't represent the everyday "normal sized" woman, she can and she should. But, think of it this way, you wouldn't cast a size 16 model to represent a straight size brand (that capped out at a size 12) so I don't see why you would cast a size 6/8 model to represent a plus size brand.

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I completely agree that Crystal's has done a great deal to diversify the runway and fashion at large. She's practically been the sole face of body diversity and the plus size movement, and you're right, she has created her own category. I also think it's great that she is getting campaigns and editorials in the mainstream straight size world. And I hope she continues to do so.

However, speaking strictly about the continued use of Crystal to represent the plus size movement (and this is perhaps more directed at the plus size clientele that continue to hire her than Crystal herself) but to use her as the face of a plus size brand right now is kind of ridiculous. Evans UK, for example, starts at a size UK14 (US12) and they continue to use Crystal in their campaigns. She is at the most a size 8 right now. For them to use her when she literally is too small to shop in the store is absurd. I realize that fashion is meant to be aspirational and Crystal is considered both a relatable yet aspirational figure, however to put it bluntly, at the size she is right now she is not relatable to a modern plus size shopper. One that would probably shop at Evans UK. Yet this is, in part, the way she has continued to be marketed. Though, don't take this to mean that I don't think she shouldn't represent the everyday "normal sized" woman, she can and she should. But, think of it this way, you wouldn't cast a size 16 model to represent a straight size brand (that capped out at a size 12) so I don't see why you would cast a size 6/8 model to represent a plus size brand.
But do we know for sure that she is being actively marketed that way or if her customers are willing to hire her again even if she falls out of the range. I can definitely understand why it is disconcerting to see her shilling plus-sized clothes and it probably cannot continue indefinitely, but from the client's standpoint, working with a known quantity and a sellable face may outweigh her not fitting in the clothes, at least in the short term. From the model and agent perspective, they don't typically turn down paying work. In fact, I actually wonder if she is doing better financially with her new frame. Of course money is not the only factor, there is a prestige factor and she has been working with top editors, photographers and designers, but I wonder if the money from the plus-sized pipeline has been (or is expected to be) replaced.

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Obviously I can't state for sure, but I think it's a combination of both. I don't have access to the Ford website but I believe she is still on the Ford + board. Then again, I remember reading that she is on the Women board as well. Maybe they are trying to transition her over? I have no idea.

As for the clients continuing to hire her, I mean, I can see why they do. She's a household name and has a lot of recognition. I can also see why she continues to accept the jobs, you can make bank off of catalog modeling or so I've heard. However, I hope she transitions more into modeling for straight size brands. She's certainly proven she has the talent and staying power. (Although I do worry that once she's down to an "acceptable size" for straight size modeling that she's going to become just another face. But I don't think that will happen.)

And yes, I realize that a plus size model is not the same as a plus size person but this is stretching that concept quite thin.

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can't wait to see what she's got in store for us next year.

any ideas abotu campaigns yet?

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Obviously I can't state for sure, but I think it's a combination of both. I don't have access to the Ford website but I believe she is still on the Ford + board. Then again, I remember reading that she is on the Women board as well. Maybe they are trying to transition her over? I have no idea.
Her portfolio up on both the Ford and Ford + boards.

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As for the clients continuing to hire her, I mean, I can see why they do. She's a household name and has a lot of recognition. I can also see why she continues to accept the jobs, you can make bank off of catalog modeling or so I've heard. However, I hope she transitions more into modeling for straight size brands.
I don't. I love seeing her pictures up in Torrid and Avenue and Cacique....I wouldn't mind seeing her elsewhere, but I think she's a great model for her current brands as well.


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very very Crystal.

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Crystal modeling the Denim Collection by Marina Rinaldi (as well as a few behind the scenes photos).



There is also a video of the shoot and an interview conducted by Vogue Curvy, which you can view here.

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