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there's something good about being on the outer edges, specially in magazines, since the middle of the pictures isnt show accurately most of the time, but i know what you guys are saying... i've also noticed that most of the times she is in an ed, the best outfits always go to alien karen or darling gemma...

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I remember one escada ad when she was more in the middle but for the most I do believe she was always at the edge/end... it sucks really. And I do remember one recent Estee campaign/ad where it was just her... but for the most part when Liya's showcased it's with Carolyn and of coure with CM being the focus.

Yes I guess there's not much one can do about it... just wanted to see if others felt the same away.

 
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In a picture like that, you would think they would put Liya in the middle, because she is the only black girl, and it would make the photo look more...evened out, or symmetrical, I guess? I don't know. I hope I don't sound racist or anything, I just think it would equal out the picture.

I'm not very good at explaing myself. Hope I didn't offend anyone.

(I know you shouldn't really arrange people like that, or anything, but if you are thinking more as like photography/art, it would make sense.)

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She generally seems to me to be the focal point because she's the most beautiful.

The only time I think she's given equal treatment is in pictures with Natalia V, who she seems to LOVE taking pics with. They have tons.

Here are more things from bwgreyscale.com to show of an example to those that haven't noticed:











 
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oh man the tommy ad is the worst offender! i remember when i saw that...i TRIED not to think it was racially based on some level...but i was so annoyed

its still messed up no matter what the reason for putting her off to the side like that

also, i think it happens less in editorials and more in advertisements with her.

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^ Yeah she might as well have not even been in the tommy picture. It's almost ridiculously biased. The other three aren't bad at all tho

 
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also, i think it happens less in editorials and more in advertisements with her.
Yeah, I think it is racially motivated. They want the best of both worlds: to have a Black model so as to appear modern and commercially appeal to a specific audience, and on the other hand, to use Liya as the token Black model in ads, where she must be shoved to the sides or "balanced out" by other white models.

Extremely annoying!

And I'm not saying she should never be along the sides. I think more fairness should be exercised. If she's on the sides in some ads, make her the center of others. The same in eds. She can sell clothes and products just as well as any other model, regardless of race.

 
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Yeah, I think it is racially motivated. They want the best of both worlds: to have a Black model so as to appear modern and commercially appeal to a specific audience, and on the other hand, to use Liya as the token Black model in ads, where she must be shoved to the sides or "balanced out" by other white models.

Extremely annoying!

And I'm not saying she should never be along the sides. I think more fairness should be exercised. If she's on the sides in some ads, make her the center of others. The same in eds. She can sell clothes and products just as well as any other model, regardless of race.
DITTO!

 
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on a lighter note...












All pics are from fristview.com


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She is so beautiful..every time I see her, I just think to myself... wow!

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although i'm a little biased because liya's my favourite model, every time i go by an estee lauder counter i get slighty annoyed because i think liya is a 1000x more interesting /better of a model n yet she doesn't get as much exposure. nothing to do w/the other debate, this is just my rant. i think carolyn murphy is boring and has the same expression in every photo (weird ashley olsen lips thing going on).

 
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all pics from fristview.com

 
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you always manage to find her best face pics!!

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you always manage to find her best face pics!!
Thank You! I'll try and post more later.

 
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^ Thanks for the gorgeous pics ntrlytanned doll

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