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16-12-2005
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gorgeous mammb! I love henry cuir/beguelin. I have two henry beguelins (one from 10 years ago!) that have held up well and aged beautifully, but you do have to be mindful that this leather is natural and intended to age so water spots and such will stain (but the leather will darken so they won't be noticeable over time). I think I've seen this bag -- it's big (like 20" across), right? wear it in good health!
Lily I can always count on you. You have the most impeccable taste I swear.

Anyhow, I just got out my measure tape and it reads 16 long by 12 high by 6 deep (inches). It's big!!! Those measurements are strictly by the bag sticking straight up (no slouchiness allowed for the measurements).

By the by....you got me turned onto HC when you suggested that you thought that HC designed Rachel McAdams bag on the "identify this bag" thread. Do you remember? Anyhow, while at Barneys I found the line and about died at the quality (truly one of a kind) and thought of you. Totally amazing. I am so glad to hear that you have 2 of them. I was worried about the water spots, etc but have now come to realize that this bag will be the bag of all my bags, ever. So much in fact, I'm selling off ALL my bags (well, almost) as I think this one (and the wallet) will satisfy all my needs for a while. . .

Thank you sweets !!!!!

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mammab - the bag and wallet are beautiful!

lily - i also have (and love) two beguelin bags but i didn't realize beguelin and cuir were from the same line, although now that i think about it of course they both have those embroidered details...

eta - and my husband thinks tfs is a waste of time, look what i learned just today!


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mammab, beautiful bag!! Enjoy it!! A Beguelin bag was my 1st designer bag about 10 yeas ago and I still wear it now and then and get compliments. It has held up beautifully, the watermarks, scratches, etc. all blend in and create a great patina. It also takes a lot of abuse, I use it as my "island vacation" bag and it takes a beating.Over the years I've bought a few more and I love that they are unique and handcrafted.

Does anyone know if they are only named "cuir" at Barneys? There are freestanding Beguelin stores also but I don't think the bags go under that label at the store.

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an SA once explained to me that henry beguelin and henry cuir (pronounced "kware") were once business partners (and possibly life partners) who split, but each continues to make bags which are quite similar. bergdorf's only carries beguelin and barney's only carries cuir, which makes me think they had an arrangement to not compete since the lines are so similar and they use a similar logo (my beguelin bags have a stock figure, not the bicycle).

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mamab - congratulation it is beautiful and so unique, love the quality of the leather.

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Love the bag, mammab I remember seeing a Henry Cuir bag that had little details on it that made it look like a house, I though it was so adorable.
this one?


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mammab - your pics of the bag made my heart skip a beat. It is so gorgeous. you have exquisite taste...

do you (or anyone else) know of any online retailers?

enjoy that bag........

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barney's online carries cuir (but a very limited selection) and neiman's online carries beguelin (again, limited)

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you can also go to www.henrybeguelin.it to see products and then call one of the stores to place an order

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it looks like you might be able to order from http://www.henrycuir.it and www.henrycuir.jp which is also where i got this info...

THE HISTORY OF HENRI BEGUELIN AND HENRY CUIR

1947HENRI BEGUELIN was born and raised in Rosanne, Switzerland
1968HENRI spent his adolescence playing for a professional Swiss soccer league, Serie A, which had a great influencein his life. There was a big hippie movement in the world around this time.
1969HENRI has a fateful encounter with a harness maker. This marked his starting point as a leatherworker.
1970HENRI moves to Elba, Italy.
1971HENRI opens a craft center-cum-shop in a little corner of a square that overlooks the sea. It was named "HENRY CUIR".
1981 His products were sold at PUPI SOLARI, a shop in Milan. He felt that he'd reached the limit of what he could do on his own so he decided to enlarge his craft center and gathered more workers.
1982 HENRI meets a shoe maker. A comfortable-to-wear moccasin was invented, which later became one of the vital items. HENRI gradually developed his interest in making interior products/furniture such as cushions, mini-tables and chairs. The company gradually expanded.
1985 The first shop opens in Milan. His name was used for the label except the spelling was changed into HENRY BEGUELIN. He has a crucial encounter with BARNEYS NEW YORK. As they were strongly impressed with HENRI's products, BARNEYS displayed them in show windows, which led to the recognition of the label in the American market.
1997 He developed doubts about the direction of the expanding company, and also the way his partner was managing the company. He decided to leave his job.
1998 He launched a new label. As a departure from HENRI BEGUELIN and to restart his creative production, it was appropriate to take the name of the little craft center-cum-shop in Elba, "HENRI CUIR" which was his starting point. "Cuir" means leather in French as well.
In the same year, his first shop opened in Minami Aoyama, Tokyo. His products are also available in some outlets in Europe and Barneys, New York.
1999 Milan store opens.
2002 HENRI CUIR Aoyama flagship store opens in Kotto-dori, Aoyama.
More shops opened in Kyoko, Osaka and Nihonbashi, Tokyo.


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an SA once explained to me that henry beguelin and henry cuir (pronounced "kware") . . .
I felt so embarrased. At Barneys the SA I was dealing with, was, um, obviously a gay man and of course I had to ask him how Cuir was pronounced. He just kinda giggled and said, it's pronouned "queer"

I wanted to die . . .

I think I'll stick to calling it via Lily's pronounciation.

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I felt so embarrased. At Barneys the SA I was dealing with, was, um, obviously a gay man and of course I had to ask him how Cuir was pronounced. He just kinda giggled and said, it's pronouned "queer"

I wanted to die . . .
That's too funny MammaB ... I know exactly which SA you are referring to .. he's new and a total sweetheart! Love your new bag!

NYCmom .. thanks for the history on the maker of the bags .. it's always nice to know the background of the designer!

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don't be embarassed mammb because "cuir", the french word for leather, is pronounced "queer," not "kware." the SA who gave me the "history" of the line was clearly insane (I trusted him because he sells beguelin at bergdorf's and used to sell cuir at barney's -- hm). the article posted by nycmom makes more sense -- henry must just have two different lines. just goes to show, take what SAs tells you with a HUGE grain of salt.

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Thank you nycmom!! I wonder who's designing for beguilin now, it must be the partner. It's so weird when a designer leaves his/her name behind.

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I wonder who's designing for beguilin now, it must be the partner. It's so weird when a designer leaves his/her name behind.
i know, it always seems so strange to me when that happens...

and mammab, i have been pronouncing it "queer" as well so at least you have company!

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