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28-09-2003
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Hi, I was wondering if anyone has a Jelly Kelly bag.. and I was wondering where they bought it and how they like it. I'm looking into purchasing a Fuschia one. Any suggestions? Also...if you do have one.. does it seem fairly sturdy? And how much can it hold? Thanks!

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I think they're a fun alternative to the real mccoy. Are they edible? I havn't seen one yet, heard so much about them, are they see-through?

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They aren't edible but they sure sound like it! I have seen some online that are translucent.. but not see through. I don't know if I'd want anyone to see what's in my bag!

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I've seen women all over Milan with these bags. They appear to be sturdier than I would've imagined just by looking at them. They come in several sizes, the biggest I've seen is quite roomy.

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I think they are terribly bourgeois.


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Originally posted by Fashion Wire Daily New York August 8@ 2003
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I'm Rubber -- You're Sued:
Hermes Takes On 'Jelly' Knockoffs
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By Jenny Bailly

The novelty fashion item of the summer may get even hotter now that the courts are involved. Hermes last week began cracking down on retailers selling the "Jelly Kelly," a rubber knock-off of the French fashion house's iconic Kelly bag, named for screen icon Grace.

Southampton retailer Steven Stolman, who had been selling the candy-colored waterproof versions this summer, has already been hit with a lawsuit, filed in the Federal Court in Central Islip, N.Y. on July 31.

According to Joseph C. Gioconda, an attorney at Kirkland & Ellis, the Manhattan law firm handling the case, Stolman isn't a lone target. "Hermes doesn't selectively enforce," he said, noting that investigators are on the case and were even prowling the AccessoriesCircuit at Pier 94 this week.

Gioconda got a call at 11am Monday that a company called Red Luggage was displaying the bags at the trade show. He had investigators on the scene within two hours, but according to Gioconda, by then the company no longer had the merchandise and claimed that they never had.

Hermes' recently-filed lawsuit against Stolman doesn't seem to be scaring off most accessories retailers though.

Other companies at the AccessoriesCircuit were still taking orders for the rubber bags Tuesday afternoon. The Margaret Loves Peter booth was swarmed with retailers eager to place orders for similar bags that that company calls "Groovy Grace" and "Jelly Jane" (presumably after Hermes' other iconic bag, the Birkin). "I think we've sold a few million," sighed a harried rep, who hadn't left her seat all day because she'd been taking so many orders.

Los Angeles-based retailer Intuition has also been selling the bags, which have been so popular they're already out of stock. According to a rep at their toll-free number, a new shipment is on the way in three to four weeks. Their website, shopintuition.com, is still accepting orders for the bags, priced from $150 to $225.

Kitson, another LA boutique, said they're expecting their shipment in about a month and a half. Owner Fraser Ross was traveling and couldn't be reached for comment.

It's not just the little guys that Hermes is targeting though. "It should be known that stores like Henri Bendel, they're going to be sued too if they keep it up," said Gioconda, who has been working with the litigious leather goods company to combat counterfeiting for over six years.

Bendel general manager Ed Burstell wasn't available for comment Friday, but a trip to the store revealed that the bags had been in stock and are sold out. A saleswoman offered to take our name for a waiting list, and brought a lime green sample from the back, priced at $128 and bearing a "made in Italy" sticker.

Gioconda said Hermes is certainly going after the Italian manufacturing centers that the bags are coming from, and explained that the company also works with U.S. customs officials to stop all counterfeit merchandise from coming across the border.

As for the products that do make it to retailers, they won't stay there for long if Hermes has anything to say about it.

"Hermes is very, very vigilant about this," says Gioconda. "I don't know many companies who will sue people on 24 hours notice."

Hermes was first alerted to the existence of the Jelly Kelly when the New York Times ran a piece on July 15 about the bags flying out of Stolman's Southampton boutique. In that article, Stolman insisted the bags weren't knockoffs: "It's just an amusement," he said, "like a Rolls-Royce made out of plastic." Reached at his Southampton boutique Friday, Stolman said he could not comment on the case.

Hermes' lawsuit against Stolman seeks "to enjoin and obtain monetary and injunctive relief for Stolman's deliberate infringement of Hermes' trademarks and trade dress." And that monetary relief has the potential to run pretty steep. Hermes has already won two jury awards for $1 million each in its battle against knockoffs, most recently in 2001 against Lederer of Paris, with stores in Manhattan, Paris and London, for infringing on the design of the Kelly.

The Stolman lawsuit asserts that, "the design of the Kelly bag, specifically its unique closure, lock, key and shape, are strongly associated with Hermes."

Melinda Kingsley, the main floor manager at the Hermes store on Madison Avenue, has made a statement to the court saying that the boutique has fielded numerous calls and walk-in inquires about the "Jelly Kelly." Many of those customers were apparently familiar with a 1996 promotion in which Hermes sold clear plastic Kellys.

Gioconda points out that the French company also makes some of its bags from rubber, though a high-quality, environmentally sound Amazonia version.

In fact, Hermes has made its Kelly and Birkin bags in not only leather and rubber, but also plastic, denim, horsehair, canvas and ostrich. President and CEO Robert Chavez describes the two bags as Hermes' "flagship products." They have made starring appearances in everything from a "Sex and the City" episode in which a character strives to acquire a Birkin, to new film release "Le Divorce" in which Kate Hudson's character acquires a Kelly from an older admirer. But at $16,000, that red croc version ain't made of Jelly.
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They are justa s bad as any otehr knock off , wich IMO are gross

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I'd rather pay for a knock off than end up broke, purchasing a bag that is in the thousands. I'd rather use the money for other things. But, I am interested in the bag, I'm sure many other women are. I'd rather spend thousands on a down payment for a house or a new car, not a bag. Plus, I didn't ask for a negative opinion on a knock off bag. I merely asked for an opinion on if anyone had it, how they liked it, etc! Now my taste has totally been insulted. How rude! I'd never comment on another person's purchase. If they like it, fine. They should go ahead and purchase it.

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Originally posted by Aziandoll@Sep 28th, 2003 - 10:59 pm
I'd never comment on another person's purchase. If they like it, fine. They should go ahead and purchase it.
Then that is exactly what you should do. No one is saying you shouldn't buy it. I was just letting you know the legal problems they are having with it. It's not my style, but like I always say, to each their own.

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^^Astrid--LOL. I think you and I are fashion opposites I think the Jelly Kelly is cute & I want one, but I think it would be a waste of money b/c it is so trendy. Is anyone going to remember them next year?

Plus, I also hate knockoffs--so that part would bother me.

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^^Astrid--LOL. I think you and I are fashion opposites
I'm a minimalist. I know people find that boring, but I like it. I find beauty in purity and stark, austere designs.

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i bought a small one in bright red and they are fun. i think i will get one in pink too

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i think those bags are simple and would appeal to a minimalist sense of style like my own....??? there is nothing too them, especially the one in my fav color, black. i think they are cute, i am just not sure if they are right for fall... seem like a go to the beach sort of bag but hell I am going to get one....so in other words I think they are cute, and I think it is a crime and irresponsible to pay that for a real kelly or the birkin is the one that I think is wrong.... sure it is your money but there is a point when I think, come on can you really justify that? so I think they are GREAT! i mean really hermes .... should people who copy the latest denim jean trend for target get sued as well? i think it is so so funny to see them get in a tizzy! to me it is not like a typical knock off or fake which i hate and would never carry this is different to me it is RUBBER!

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I totally agree with both of you, lele and leyla! I just wanted something cute for my music books! They look to be sturdy as well. Who knows, if I really like it, I may even purchase one as a gift for my friend (who just had a baby)! Plus, it's rubber, waterproof.. wouldn't they look like really stylin' diaper bags As opposed to the Kate Spade ones? Anyhow.. yeah I do want a hot pink one.. where did you get yours, leyla? You can email me if you don't want to list it on here... Thanks!

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Well, the thing about buying a real Birkin is that you shouldn't have to justify it. It's a Birkin. You shouldn't purchase it if you don't have the money for it. That's the only way I can see not justifying it. People need to learn to stay within their means.

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It's so hard trying to find stylish and HUGE bags to accomodate my books and my beloved personal junk (see "What's in your purse" board). Plus they also make great, colorful beach bags.

Jelly Kelly is a good alternative. It's not leather, it's rubber. Futhermore, it's not like they are selling the bags out in the black market, or out of someone's trunk on a sidewalk somewhere. The businesses who sell the Jelly Kellys are legitimate and well-known, especially Intuition who cater to celebrity clientele.

I think Hermes may be going a little too agro on this.

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