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01-03-2013
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much worse is that horrible book with the turquoise cover ... i donated mine, but considered whether i should burn it. she says that being well-endowed is quite the worst problem a woman can have, & delicately implies surgery would be an excellent option. if you go far enough back into the thread you will find me enraged about this sorry, i am not lopping anything off to meet anyone else's standards of ... whatever.
There are probably not a lot of things I hate more than women trying to make other women feel bad about themselves: being it the way they look, what they choose for their lives, etc.

 
 
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I hate how surgery has become so popular. Too much surgery and botox make anyone look so uniform and emotionless. Even if it's on your body. I have a feeling that beauty and style should be so much more about learning to love yourself the way you are: tall, short, huge or tiny breasts - whatever. Just learn to make the best out of it

I realized that with the bra in Ines' book, too It kind of annoyed me. I loved reading style books before but after reading some they all seem to be the same. The trenchcoat, the white tee, denim, black pumps... Nothing against all these pieces (I own them, too), but that's not very original to always point out the same... Anyone ever read one that was really helpful?? But maybe I just shouldn't read one anymore

Winter: I need to remember to replace my biker boots next winter. High priority. And probably my down jacket, too I bought a diffusion line version with an okay price but sadly, not so good quality as it turns out. It looked good, I was fine with it - but it start to get fuzzy. Argh, I hate that when an item doesn't last

 
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Are we talking about a guide to elegance? The book is a sort of turquoise/blue color. I quite liked the book, actually, but then again, I love all old books about "how to dress". So many things have changed, but I love their perspective.

 
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^ that's the one ... all i could remember was 'stupid sh!t' by french snob, but you're quite right, that's what it's called.

sometimes old school can be charming ... sometimes

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There are probably not a lot of things I hate more than women trying to make other women feel bad about themselves: being it the way they look, what they choose for their lives, etc.
I couldn't agree more, and that 'turquoise book' sounds terrible. I especially dislike it when women tell other women (or people tell other people, really) that something about their bodies is not 'fashionable'. not the way they dress, but the way their bodies are. ugh. I know so many women who feel that fashion and style is only for those with a perfect body - whatever that may be, if it even exists - and that they, not being perfect, do not deserve to be stylish. it makes me sad. and mad.

 
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I couldn't agree more, and that 'turquoise book' sounds terrible. I especially dislike it when women tell other women (or people tell other people, really) that something about their bodies is not 'fashionable'. not the way they dress, but the way their bodies are. ugh. I know so many women who feel that fashion and style is only for those with a perfect body - whatever that may be, if it even exists - and that they, not being perfect, do not deserve to be stylish. it makes me sad. and mad.
Oh, I definitely don't only dislike it when women do that, it's just... most women already feel so much pressure to look a certain way to please men (or other women) and for society's standards in general... why do we make it worse for each other? Most women will be quick to say a man is a jerk if he rejects a woman based on how her body looks, but they will also be quick to say things like "your butt/boobs/thighs is/are too big to look good in that", even when they have their own insecurities and know how hard it is.

 
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^indeed. it's the blaming of the body parts that is just so wrong and hurtful.

 
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my mini-theory is that when wearing/trying on clothes, women feel like they have to do the clothes justice. they have to live up to the beauty of the sweater. when men get dressed or try on clothes at a shop, what they are looking for is that the clothes make them look good, that it suits their style and needs. of course this is grossly generalized, and I'm sure there are lots of people for whom this is not true. I mean, I know some people for whom it is absolutely not true. but I've noticed this tendency in the people around me, and in myself - it's a tendency I fight and have fought in myself, and I feel much better when I practice the 'masculine' approach. that approach is definitely a key part of the e 4-5 piece method for me.
have you guys noticed this tendency around you, in yourselves? what do you think?

 
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I couldn't agree more, and that 'turquoise book' sounds terrible. I especially dislike it when women tell other women (or people tell other people, really) that something about their bodies is not 'fashionable'. not the way they dress, but the way their bodies are. ugh. I know so many women who feel that fashion and style is only for those with a perfect body - whatever that may be, if it even exists - and that they, not being perfect, do not deserve to be stylish. it makes me sad. and mad.
absolutely!! i know people who feel this way, & i hate it. being human is your ticket to all of life's good things ... that's it, nothing more.

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my mini-theory is that when wearing/trying on clothes, women feel like they have to do the clothes justice. they have to live up to the beauty of the sweater. when men get dressed or try on clothes at a shop, what they are looking for is that the clothes make them look good, that it suits their style and needs. of course this is grossly generalized, and I'm sure there are lots of people for whom this is not true. I mean, I know some people for whom it is absolutely not true. but I've noticed this tendency in the people around me, and in myself - it's a tendency I fight and have fought in myself, and I feel much better when I practice the 'masculine' approach. that approach is definitely a key part of the e 4-5 piece method for me.
have you guys noticed this tendency around you, in yourselves? what do you think?
hmm, interesting! i have not ever felt that way ... but i have noticed a fabulous new item making other things in my closet look declasse

when i worked in a men's store, most of the men seemed to have a very utilitarian approach to clothes. maybe there was a funeral, or a suit or jacket had worn out. some people's anxieties really came up--about what was & wasn't masculine. one guy seemed to think it wasn't masculine to spend more than 5 seconds contemplating a purchase, so none of his stuff went together. i remember only one customer who really was into the whole process--granted, i'm sure there are lots of men like that, they were just shopping elsewhere. but, this concern you mention i never heard a man express in any way, that i can remember.

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I was considering getting a pair of riding style boots for winter. Might have to rethink that.

I have been doing some research just to figure out what I like but I am not quite sure that it is me. I've sold the long boots I've owned in the past because I felt weird wearing them. I just thought a pair of riding style boots would look good worn with a full skirt, silk blouse and cardigan, or jeans and a blazer. I still love the thought of that look. What do you think?

 
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I think that can look great, Betinapple. it's not my style at all, but that is not important of course - to me, the proportions of the outfits you described sound great. and the real question is whether it's your style. maybe it can help to ask yourself what it was about the boots that made you feel weird wearing them?

 
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I think that can look great, Betinapple. it's not my style at all, but that is not important of course - to me, the proportions of the outfits you described sound great. and the real question is whether it's your style. maybe it can help to ask yourself what it was about the boots that made you feel weird wearing them?
I felt that the long boots made my legs look short and that is why I got rid of them. I do not know if I will feel the same again.

 
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I'm 5'9'' (and therefore don't have the shortest of legs) and I found that those kind of boots made my legs shorter, too. I used to have a pair, and I wore them until they weren't good anymore, but I never looked back. I like the look of riding books with jeans tucked in etc, but I hate them enough on me so that I won't buy a pair. I think you should ponder it wisely, maybe try on a couple of pairs, even if at random, to see whether you still feel the same?

(I have a pair of Hunters, and those make me feel stumpy too, but they're just so handy when it rains!)

 
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really - i always felt that riding boots, given they have the right length and toe shape, made my legs look longer... maybe a little heel just a little bit.

i used to live in my riding boots for the last 3 winters, but now they are completely destroyed... hope i'll find some next winter... they were just perfect.

i love how active this thread is, very interesting to read!

 
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