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22-05-2009
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It lies in the person, but some outfits will scream hoochie no matter who wears it.

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23-05-2009
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It lies in the person, but some outfits will scream hoochie no matter who wears it.
This is true, but on the other side of the token, some people will look sexy no matter what outfit they are wearing. I do think it has a lot to do with the persona. Some people just have a sexy energy. And I think there are different kinds of it. Like overtly traffic-stopping sexy or subtle, who-is that-girl sexy. Sorry, it's hard to explain since it's so subjective what people think is sexy, but that is what I think.

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23-05-2009
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hmm... for me its all about the balance.. if i'm showing my legs, I prefer wearing a long sleeved top, if i'm wearing a mini skirt i usually choose flats (or wear heels with black tights). Some people feel that fine line, some don't. Some are always sexy (but not hookers) some can't pull it off and either go for cute or do make a mistake and look cheap.

A couple of months ago I was in the cinema in glasgow and i noticed a couple of girls in the HIGHEST of heels (black patent), one was wearing a skin-tight black mini-dress, the other had black shorts on, both had done their hair and makeup.. and they looked silly there. I dont think they looked very hookerish but they looked soo out of place! I guess there are occasions for super sexy looks too, but cinema wasnt one of those.

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I do not know, I think it depends on the persons style and personality in the first place and much less about the clothes who will turn out to look cheap. You can dress Megan Fox in a pair of jeans and a loose shirt and she'll always look like a hooker, while someone like Charlotte Gainsbourg will look understated chic. A Balmain dress in some persons make them look like streewalkers in others simply "good" sexy...

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23-05-2009
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^ Megan is on the cover of the new Elle, right? I didn't think she looked like a hooker at all ... though she certainly does have sexy oozing from her pores

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23-05-2009
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^Interesting that you brought that up, because I was going to get into my whole "it's all about the context" schtick again. Repetitive, I know, but I think it's especially fitting for this thread. What looks sexy on a magazine cover can go a bit too far in real life.

First off, it's annoyingly politically correct, but I'd just like to note that we can't know who may or may not be a prostitute, both in real life and especially on an online forum. Clothes don't make the person, though life would be so much easier if it were so. With that out of the way, what does looking like a tramp mean?

For me, it's an appearance that solicits sex in such a way that it neglects all other qualities that an outfit or overall look may convey. It lacks complexity. There is seemingly nothing to scratch beneath the surface, so it has an immediate, visceral effect. And outside of a red light district, it garners discomfort and disapproval from others, more than anything. To me, it's mainly discomfort. Sexy is more intriguing, even more inviting, strangely enough.

Having said that, it's just impossible to make definite distinctions between sexy and trampy, for all the reasons others have pointed out so far. And our standards are constantly shifting. I think showing almost the entire leg is totally accepted at the moment, or those really loose tank tops that expose the bra. Sure, some people will still argue those looks are trashy, but the fact is, they are accepted by the fashion norm, plus they are everywhere. Other things, like protruding cleavage, are no longer having their day in the sun (or plastic surgeon's office). Or think of trendy latex leggings versus the outdated extreme low-riding trousers. Latex leggings are surely more scandalous!? But no. That's not how it goes. Against all logic, I still think latex leggings are the more refined choice. Fashion is confusing, man...

I enjoy the way our standards of provocation are constantly being tested and pushed and even traded in for a new code of "rules", but it's weird. It's just weird. For I am a product of society as much as anyone else, so I still find some of those looks trampy. In Victorian times, exposing your ankle was considered obscene. Nowadays, we have our own set of ankles.


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..not sure if I think it's sexy.. but 'tramp' isn't the first word that would come to my mind either..
ugly stupid and tacky are words that come to mind......


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i agree that people with more boyish figures can get away with tighter things and showing a bit more skin....

and i guess that the right hair and make up do make a huge difference as well...

a fake baked tan and any kind of surgical enhancement *ahem* is also a defining factor...imo

but ---
i was just thinking of the OUTFIT here...
can anyone post some examples???...
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Well, sorry no examples, but really eccentric touches can take the same outfit from pure "Amsterdam" (lol) to just plain weird. Avant-garde if you're good. May not appeal to all, but it's one way to counter trampheit.

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well- i am going to say that leggings of any kind worn as pants rather than as a layering piece- (in other words...with your butt hanging out...)
is straight hoochie...
and beyond that...just unattractive..

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I remember reading somewhere that the key to sexiness is suggesting that your clothing could slip off. Not necessarily showing skin, but suggesting the skin beneath as something discoverable.

Abstract, I guess, but it works for me... Something about very easy little dresses, a top which slips off your shoulder casually, the slice of skin between OTK socks and a skirt are basically the things which govern my sexy dressing. Or, at least they did with my ex who only liked subtle sexiness, hated the trampy look.

I definitely think you should not look too high-maintenance. Super straight hair isn't sexy for everyday. Neither is really heavy makeup. Daytime sexiness is about looking like you rolled out of bed after a lazy morning of rampant sex, had breakfast semi-naked in the sunshine and then pulled the first things you could find out of the closet and slipped them on. Although obviously it takes me a lot of hard thought and effort to achieve that breezy effortlessness. I always get the best responses to very worn in -t-shirt dresses and loose white vests. I think it's because you look more touchable in them than in harsher tailoring or complex layers-and-draping.

Clean lines are better than fussy ones... I love the great british high st, but I find that whole mix and match, topshop-meets brick lane look to be soo unsexy because you see the clothes not the person first.

Night time... never show boobs and legs, only one or the other. The key to not looking over the top is to not look like you're wearing a costume... you should look like it's a natural look for yourself, not like you're dressing to be sexy.

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Tight top, loose pants, peep toes. Never fails on casual-sexy

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It lies in the person, but some outfits will scream hoochie no matter who wears it.
Ditto.
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Also, women with the "hot" bod (huge thighs and boobs) have to watch out for too short outfits. Usually those go with skinny women only.

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i think there's effortness element in sexiness.
trying too hard can push it over the limit.

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27-05-2009
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^ That's a very interesting point, floodette.

I'm not certain whether there are outfits or elements that are inescapably 'Amsterdam' :p Some people (I see this with some models) have such a strong aura of wholesomeness that it seems to overcome whatever they put on.

What I do know for sure is that I know instinctively what's right for me, and what's not. I try to stick with that, and not judge others

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^ Part of the above is so true. Clothes a lot of times are an extension of a person. I believe when there is a conflict in the manner of dress and the personality, things sometimes are off.

Going to style extremes when that underlying core at times, the "trying to hard" might translate into coming across as something negative than sexy.

By the same token, dressing overly conservative also can make an element of "frumpiness"

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