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classic1908 · 12-09-2007

EvansLondon gives NY Fashion Week big picture

Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:20PM EDT
By Jan Paschal
NEW YORK (Reuters) - With hundreds of twiggy models strutting the catwalks at New York's Fashion Week that ended on Wednesday, EvansLondon hopes to clothe the women fashion tends to overlook -- those who wear larger sizes.
Roughly two-thirds of U.S. women wear size 14 or larger, and they are a fast-growing segment of the apparel industry, said Sue Perryman, creative director of e-commerce for Britain's EvansLondon.
The company, which is launching its online shopping site for U.S. consumers, came to New York for Fashion Week to show its collection to the media and others.
So goodbye, baggy black dresses and stretch pants. Hello, hot styles like an orange flared coat with elbow-length sleeves and a purple polka-dot party dress with a flirty bow.
"We're selling confidence," said Perryman. "We cut the latest styles to fit and flatter the larger woman."
Last year, one in five women's apparel purchases was a plus size, according to the NPD Group, a Port Washington, New York-based company that tracks retail sales trends.
"Accentuate your curves. Don't hide them," said Michele Weston, a principal in MJW Style Media, a New York-based brand consultant to EvansLondon.
The lingerie and swimsuits included bras in black and hot pink, black lace panties with a "tap pant" flair, purple "girl boxers" and a high-leg bikini in an orange knit with a crochet overlay in chocolate brown. No granny panties here.
British designer Georgina Goodman created shoes and boots in wide widths up to size 12-1/2 for EvansLondon.
The company also offers necklaces, bracelets and handbags scaled generously for larger bodies. Its corporate parent is the Arcadia Group Ltd., the largest UK clothing retailer, which owns such stores as Topshop and Miss Selfridge.
In the United States, EvansLondon aims to offer cutting-edge styles at more competitive prices than those of some established retailers in the segment, including Lane Bryant and Marina Rinaldi.
EvansLondon clothes also are available in petites and talls -- two specialty proportions difficult to find in plus sizes at most U.S. stores.
RECOGNITION AND ACCEPTANCE
This strikes a welcome chord with Kathryn Mullen, a full-figure model and executive producer of Goddess TV, a Dallas-based company developing a cable TV beauty and lifestyle show for women in this size range.
She believes U.S. retailers need to change the way they market to full-figure women, especially those ages 40 to 61. Ninety percent of the women in this group are full-figured, and they have plenty of money to spend, she said.
"The truth is, full-figure women are looking for recognition and acceptance. They want to see themselves attractively portrayed in media and advertising," she said.
Perryman of EvansLondon said it may not be surprising that it took a British retailer to forge ahead for larger women.
"In the UK, retailers understand that there's more respect for the grown-up woman, for who you are, not how you look," she said. Perhaps it trickles down from respect for Queen Elizabeth and actresses such as Judi Dench and Maggie Smith, she said.
And what if women who wear size 2 see something from EvansLondon that they want?
"They'll have to eat more profiteroles," Weston said.

**fashionista-ta** · 12-09-2007

^ Really flattering outfit on Marjorie. Has she lost a bit of weight? She has def been in the sun wearing goggles or big shades

classic1908 · 13-09-2007

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Originally Posted by fashionista-ta

^ Really flattering outfit on Marjorie. Has she lost a bit of weight? She has def been in the sun wearing goggles or big shades

She looks like she may have lost a few, or the tailoring got better.
Here she is in a tunic (love the color) w/Valesca Guerrand-Hermes.

classic1908 · 13-09-2007

Speaking of quasi-plus Hollywood folks, actress LaTanya Richardson at the Save the Children dinner with w/Samuel L. Jackson, her longtime hub:

LaurieAnn · 14-09-2007

Marjorie does look much better; her shade of green works with her complexion, her slacks have a slimming cut and she's well accessorized. I wish we had a better picture of LaTanya though, from what I can see she looks lovely.

3RingCircus · 14-09-2007

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Originally Posted by masquerade

ugh, so if you look in the thread for the new POP magazine, there is an ed with Beth Ditto in it. You have to love seeing a plus-sized woman in a high fashion editorial even if you don't like Beth (personally I love her). But what pisses me off is that in one of the pictures she is wearing a "specially made for POP" Hussein Chalayan dress. Of course, the only time a plus sized designer dress is made is for a magazine editorial

Yes, very annoying to see designers do for celebs what they won't do for paying punters. I would much prefer to see Beth looking club-kid cool rather than eccentric (2), which seems to be how they are presenting her in the Pop editorial. And any time I see an out gay woman posed submissively with a man (no matter how femme he looks) standing over her (1), I get the irrits. It's not a clever idea, it's not new, nor is it relevant.

Vogue Paris of course shows her looking pretty in a Kelly Osborne way (3), although the Nick Knight shot of her for UK Vogue (4) is far more confrontational and real - the Beth we all know!

(pix clockwise from left 1, 2 and 3 from TFFF, last pic from tFS member "Manuva" via this thread)

classic1908 · 17-09-2007

^^
I like the peeping photo.

Queen Latifah:

Chandra Wilson:

Sara Ramirez:

**Luxx** · 17-09-2007

Sara Ramirez is very cute but her makeup always looks a little heavy. I wish she'd go for a more natural look. Her Emmy's look is little too prom/pageant for me but I do like her a great deal.

I think a lot of the formal plus size wear, even at the level of what's worn to the Emmy's / Oscars / what have you is almost too classic for my tastes. It can be pretty but sort of boring. It lacks the sense of excitement.

I'm with masquerade, I want like plus sized Hussein Chalayan or Marni - something with some flair or just something different. I'm probably not articulating my frustrations in the best possible way but I feel as though there are many more plus sized options at the high end (or just in general) if you're a conservative dresser than if your tastes lean more towards avant garde clothing. Don't get me wrong classic is great too and immensely useful but I always feel as though the vast majority of clothing offered does not allow me to express my personality to the fullest possible extent. There are things I want to wear / are absolutely and undeniably ME and yet I cannot wear them because they simply don't exist in my size.

Sorry to rant, I just went on a futile search for a pair of high waisted pants.

I know. I know. High waisted pants are a tool of the devil

but oh how I love that look.

xmodel citizen · 17-09-2007

^ I have high-waisted jeans (they're wide and straight leg too) from Lane Bryant. But I agree! I see girls wearing the cutest tops and I feel sad because I WANT them. But unfortunately, they don't come in my size

classic1908 · 17-09-2007

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Originally Posted by Luxx

Sara Ramirez is very cute but her makeup always looks a little heavy. I wish she'd go for a more natural look. Her Emmy's look is little too prom/pageant for me but I do like her a great deal.

I think a lot of the formal plus size wear, even at the level of what's worn to the Emmy's / Oscars / what have you is almost too classic for my tastes. It can be pretty but sort of boring. It lacks the sense of excitement.

I'm with masquerade, I want like plus sized Hussein Chalayan or Marni - something with some flair or just something different. I'm probably not articulating my frustrations in the best possible way but I feel as though there are many more plus sized options at the high end (or just in general) if you're a conservative dresser than if your tastes lean more towards avant garde clothing. Don't get me wrong classic is great too and immensely useful but I always feel as though the vast majority of clothing offered does not allow me to express my personality to the fullest possible extent. There are things I want to wear / are absolutely and undeniably ME and yet I cannot wear them because they simply don't exist in my size.

Sorry to rant, I just went on a futile search for a pair of high waisted pants.

I know. I know. High waisted pants are a tool of the devil

but oh how I love that look.

Because I am a conservative dresser, I'm not terribly dissatisfied with what's out there, but I see your point -- the market should be wider. Those of us who love the Blass/De La Renta style are decently served.

BellaCouture · 19-09-2007

I'm searching for a coat for my mother, who is plus-size (xxl) but can't find anything in the stores. (I want to surprise her with a nice one, since she can't find one)
Does anyone know a store who sells xxl and ships internationally? I live in Holland/The Netherlands...
also, could anyone translate size xxl for me into american or/and UK sizing? It would really help!

thanks!

LaurieAnn · 19-09-2007

In the US XXL isn't a common size. (It if were I'd probably be able to find a lot more items to fit me.) Most cloting lines usually stop at L or XL. XL is usually considered to be size 14-16 or just size 16 US; XXL would then be size 18 US. More often you will find that size 18 US is labeled size 2X.

UK sizing is tricky for me to translate but I believe you can just add 2 to the US size. For example: US 8 equals UK 10. It may not work exactly like this but it's close.

I'm afraid that I haven't noticed companies that ship to continental Europe. Have you tried Luisaviaroma? Matches in the UK?

Sorry I can't be more helpful but I wanted to try.

3RingCircus · 20-09-2007

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Originally Posted by LaurieAnn

I'm afraid that I haven't noticed companies that ship to continental Europe. Have you tried Luisaviaroma? Matches in the UK?

LaurieAnn, it's highly optimistic of you to think that LVA and Matches would carry an XXL

I would try Simply Be - they carry sizes UK14-32 (surely that's more than an XXL?), and may ship within Europe...surprisingly the website doesn't state specifically that they don't ship outside of the UK, so perhaps they do if you ask by phone. All you can do is try - worth it for a slice of Anna Scholz!

They have a mini fashion show on the home page - worth watching if you like some of the items so you can see how they move on the body.

LaurieAnn · 20-09-2007

You are very correct 3RingCircus, suggesting LVA and Matches was wishful thinking in the extreme. I just don't know enough about plus size fashions in Europe to give an intelligent answer. I was concentrating on the quality of the items that I've seen available on web sites in Europe.

3RingCircus · 20-09-2007

^ Yes, it's a bit hard when all of the focus is on Nth America in this forum.

BellaCouture - there are a few catalog houses in the Netherlands that may have something for your mother's taste and your budget:
"Maatjegroter.nl" up to 60 (5X) (Netherlands)
"Ulla Popken" up to 68 (7X) (Netherlands)

And if you don't see anything you like, why not try German catalog companies? They may ship to the Netherlands - if you can work past the language barrier. The word for jacket is 'jacke' or 'jacken' (plural), overcoat is 'mantel'. "Größen bis..." means 'sizes up to...' Best of luck!

Neckermann.de Chic In Form brand,größen bis 60 (up to 5X)

"Bon Prix" größen bis 56 (up to 4X)
"Fesch & Pfundig" größen bis 54 (up to 4X)
"Happy Size Company" größen bis 60 (up to 5X)
"Mode Large & Beautiful" größen bis 60 (up to 5X)
"Nikes" größen bis 60 (up to 5X)
"Schik Dick" größen bis 62 (up to 5X)
"Ulla Popken" größen bis 68 (up to 6X)
"XL-Mode" größen bis 52 (up to 3X)

12-09-2007	#616
classic1908 backstage pass Profile: Posts: 765	EvansLondon from Reuters... EvansLondon gives NY Fashion Week big picture Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:20PM EDT By Jan Paschal NEW YORK (Reuters) - With hundreds of twiggy models strutting the catwalks at New York's Fashion Week that ended on Wednesday, EvansLondon hopes to clothe the women fashion tends to overlook -- those who wear larger sizes. Roughly two-thirds of U.S. women wear size 14 or larger, and they are a fast-growing segment of the apparel industry, said Sue Perryman, creative director of e-commerce for Britain's EvansLondon. The company, which is launching its online shopping site for U.S. consumers, came to New York for Fashion Week to show its collection to the media and others. So goodbye, baggy black dresses and stretch pants. Hello, hot styles like an orange flared coat with elbow-length sleeves and a purple polka-dot party dress with a flirty bow. "We're selling confidence," said Perryman. "We cut the latest styles to fit and flatter the larger woman." Last year, one in five women's apparel purchases was a plus size, according to the NPD Group, a Port Washington, New York-based company that tracks retail sales trends. "Accentuate your curves. Don't hide them," said Michele Weston, a principal in MJW Style Media, a New York-based brand consultant to EvansLondon. The lingerie and swimsuits included bras in black and hot pink, black lace panties with a "tap pant" flair, purple "girl boxers" and a high-leg bikini in an orange knit with a crochet overlay in chocolate brown. No granny panties here. British designer Georgina Goodman created shoes and boots in wide widths up to size 12-1/2 for EvansLondon. The company also offers necklaces, bracelets and handbags scaled generously for larger bodies. Its corporate parent is the Arcadia Group Ltd., the largest UK clothing retailer, which owns such stores as Topshop and Miss Selfridge. In the United States, EvansLondon aims to offer cutting-edge styles at more competitive prices than those of some established retailers in the segment, including Lane Bryant and Marina Rinaldi. EvansLondon clothes also are available in petites and talls -- two specialty proportions difficult to find in plus sizes at most U.S. stores. RECOGNITION AND ACCEPTANCE This strikes a welcome chord with Kathryn Mullen, a full-figure model and executive producer of Goddess TV, a Dallas-based company developing a cable TV beauty and lifestyle show for women in this size range. She believes U.S. retailers need to change the way they market to full-figure women, especially those ages 40 to 61. Ninety percent of the women in this group are full-figured, and they have plenty of money to spend, she said. "The truth is, full-figure women are looking for recognition and acceptance. They want to see themselves attractively portrayed in media and advertising," she said. Perryman of EvansLondon said it may not be surprising that it took a British retailer to forge ahead for larger women. "In the UK, retailers understand that there's more respect for the grown-up woman, for who you are, not how you look," she said. Perhaps it trickles down from respect for Queen Elizabeth and actresses such as Judi Dench and Maggie Smith, she said. And what if women who wear size 2 see something from EvansLondon that they want? "They'll have to eat more profiteroles," Weston said.
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12-09-2007	#617
fashionista-ta Hail to the Chief Profile: Mod Squad Member Location: Hardly ever at Barney's Gender: femme Posts: 11,026	^ Really flattering outfit on Marjorie. Has she lost a bit of weight? She has def been in the sun wearing goggles or big shades __________________ The purpose is usefulness, but with a lyric quality--this is the basis of all my designs. --George Nakashima
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13-09-2007	#619
classic1908 backstage pass Profile: Posts: 765	LaTanya Richardson, NYSD.com Speaking of quasi-plus Hollywood folks, actress LaTanya Richardson at the Save the Children dinner with w/Samuel L. Jackson, her longtime hub:
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14-09-2007	#620
LaurieAnn backstage pass Profile: Gender: femme Posts: 540	Marjorie does look much better; her shade of green works with her complexion, her slacks have a slimming cut and she's well accessorized. I wish we had a better picture of LaTanya though, from what I can see she looks lovely.
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17-09-2007	#622
classic1908 backstage pass Profile: Posts: 765	Fullish figures at Emmy ^^ I like the peeping photo. Queen Latifah: Chandra Wilson: Sara Ramirez:
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17-09-2007	#623
Luxx disgusted. revolted. Profile: Mod Squad Member Location: NYC Gender: femme Posts: 5,764	Sara Ramirez is very cute but her makeup always looks a little heavy. I wish she'd go for a more natural look. Her Emmy's look is little too prom/pageant for me but I do like her a great deal. I think a lot of the formal plus size wear, even at the level of what's worn to the Emmy's / Oscars / what have you is almost too classic for my tastes. It can be pretty but sort of boring. It lacks the sense of excitement. I'm with masquerade, I want like plus sized Hussein Chalayan or Marni - something with some flair or just something different. I'm probably not articulating my frustrations in the best possible way but I feel as though there are many more plus sized options at the high end (or just in general) if you're a conservative dresser than if your tastes lean more towards avant garde clothing. Don't get me wrong classic is great too and immensely useful but I always feel as though the vast majority of clothing offered does not allow me to express my personality to the fullest possible extent. There are things I want to wear / are absolutely and undeniably ME and yet I cannot wear them because they simply don't exist in my size. Sorry to rant, I just went on a futile search for a pair of high waisted pants. I know. I know. High waisted pants are a tool of the devil but oh how I love that look. __________________ "I have grown tired of apologising for being in this profession. I know that clothes are not important, that I am not changing society." - Miuccia Prada *SANS ARTIFICE.COM* - Fashion Without Fakery
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17-09-2007	#624
xmodel citizen V.I.P. Profile: Gender: femme Posts: 6,637	^ I have high-waisted jeans (they're wide and straight leg too) from Lane Bryant. But I agree! I see girls wearing the cutest tops and I feel sad because I WANT them. But unfortunately, they don't come in my size __________________ Less talk. More Barack.
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19-09-2007	#626
BellaCouture tfs star Profile: Gender: femme Posts: 1,537	I'm searching for a coat for my mother, who is plus-size (xxl) but can't find anything in the stores. (I want to surprise her with a nice one, since she can't find one) Does anyone know a store who sells xxl and ships internationally? I live in Holland/The Netherlands... also, could anyone translate size xxl for me into american or/and UK sizing? It would really help! thanks! __________________ I love(d) you and I hope u knew. One day I'll get over there to!
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19-09-2007	#627
LaurieAnn backstage pass Profile: Gender: femme Posts: 540	In the US XXL isn't a common size. (It if were I'd probably be able to find a lot more items to fit me.) Most cloting lines usually stop at L or XL. XL is usually considered to be size 14-16 or just size 16 US; XXL would then be size 18 US. More often you will find that size 18 US is labeled size 2X. UK sizing is tricky for me to translate but I believe you can just add 2 to the US size. For example: US 8 equals UK 10. It may not work exactly like this but it's close. I'm afraid that I haven't noticed companies that ship to continental Europe. Have you tried Luisaviaroma? Matches in the UK? Sorry I can't be more helpful but I wanted to try.
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20-09-2007	#629
LaurieAnn backstage pass Profile: Gender: femme Posts: 540	You are very correct 3RingCircus, suggesting LVA and Matches was wishful thinking in the extreme. I just don't know enough about plus size fashions in Europe to give an intelligent answer. I was concentrating on the quality of the items that I've seen available on web sites in Europe.
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20-09-2007	#630
3RingCircus front row Profile: Location: Going into the light... Gender: femme Posts: 205	^ Yes, it's a bit hard when all of the focus is on Nth America in this forum. BellaCouture - there are a few catalog houses in the Netherlands that may have something for your mother's taste and your budget: "Maatjegroter.nl" up to 60 (5X) (Netherlands) "Ulla Popken" up to 68 (7X) (Netherlands) And if you don't see anything you like, why not try German catalog companies? They may ship to the Netherlands - if you can work past the language barrier. The word for jacket is 'jacke' or 'jacken' (plural), overcoat is 'mantel'. "Größen bis..." means 'sizes up to...' Best of luck! Neckermann.de Chic In Form brand,größen bis 60 (up to 5X) "Bon Prix" größen bis 56 (up to 4X) "Fesch & Pfundig" größen bis 54 (up to 4X) "Happy Size Company" größen bis 60 (up to 5X) "Mode Large & Beautiful" größen bis 60 (up to 5X) "Nikes" größen bis 60 (up to 5X) "Schik Dick" größen bis 62 (up to 5X) "Ulla Popken" größen bis 68 (up to 6X) "XL-Mode" größen bis 52 (up to 3X) __________________ runwayrevolution.com - the new home of Every Body is Beautiful Last edited by 3RingCircus : 20-09-2007 at 05:31 PM. Reason: Link maintenance
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