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Honestly, I find the idea of a Punk themed exhibit tired and a bit lazy. But, it is at least an exhibit that could have some real meat behind it unlike this last Prada/Schiparelli show, which was nice, but didn't say much.

I would love it if they really went into depth on the origins of Punk style and took a careful look tracing exactly when it started to influence mainstream trends and dress and what the public reaction was and how it eventually became accepted. But we'll see, I am not expecting much more than to see a bunch designer clothes stuck with safety pins or fixed with leather straps.

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I can see this being a heavy tribute to Vivienne Westwood and I just hope it isn't since to me her clothes are awful and they've never been considered visionary (well, not in my eyes anyway), when I see her clothes I always think they belong to a homeless man or in some charity shop, not selling in Selfridges or Harvey Nichols for several hundred pounds.

I think we'll also see Balenciaga S/S 07' & S/S 11' ?



I've also always loved Lee McQueen's interpretations of punk over the years, they've always had a bit of weight behind them in terms of design and execution, I keep thinking of all the possible looks from various designers that could be considered for this exhibit, I think the world is pretty much their oyster from what they can pick from most, if not every brand in existence.


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^Oh yes, but I would consider that jacket more an Aviator style, more so than Punk/Biker, but that was one is definitely a fantastic example

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The amount of negativity in TFS users is astonishing. The exhibit isn't even until next year and people are already moaning about it. Writing things off before they even happen seems to be a recurring trend in many of the threads here.

Personally, I like this theme a lot and I think it is a theme that people can really get into, like AngloMania. Given the access they have to designers' archives and the amount of effort put forth by the team, I have faith that they will be able to put something exciting together.

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The amount of negativity in TFS users is astonishing. The exhibit isn't even until next year and people are already moaning about it. Writing things off before they even happen seems to be a recurring trend in many of the threads here.

Personally, I like this theme a lot and I think it is a theme that people can really get into, like AngloMania. Given the access they have to designers' archives and the amount of effort put forth by the team, I have faith that they will be able to put something exciting together.
Well, Punk is a cliche. To do an exhibit about it now, when it is already so widley discussed and referenced in every segment of the clothing market, seems unambitious. They'll have to really give it a go to get my interest.

As for adding depth or at least some clarity to the subject, the Met doesn't have a great track record: The totally surface and poorly researched Model as Muse, the entertainment pandering Superheroes, the forced Impossible Conversations and the oh so poorly done American Woman...

Well? What should one expect? If this were a Valerie Steele/Patricia Mears exhibit I could at least expect to learn something even if the subject matter has already been beaten to death.

I guess all the good fashion exhibits are done in Europe.


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I can see this being a heavy tribute to Vivienne Westwood and I just hope it isn't since to me her clothes are awful and they've never been considered visionary (well, not in my eyes anyway), when I see her clothes I always think they belong to a homeless man or in some charity shop, not selling in Selfridges or Harvey Nichols for several hundred pounds.

I think the world is pretty much their oyster from what they can pick from most, if not every brand in existence.
You perfectly illustrate all of my concerns regarding this exhibit.

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Some information on the book;
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Publication Date: 31 May 2013 | Series: Metropolitan Museum of Art | 224 pages (paperback)

Since its origins in the 1970s, punk has had an incendiary influence on fashion. With its eclectic mixing of stylistic references, punk effectively introduced the postmodern concept of bricolage not only into directional ready-to-wear but also into the elevated precincts of the haute couture. As a style, punk was about chaos, anarchy, and rebellion. Drawing upon a corpus of sexual and political imagery that was deliberately intended to shock, provoke, and confront, punks made fashion overtly hostile and threatening. This aesthetic of violence - even of cruelty - was intrinsic to the clothes themselves, which were often customized with rips, tears, and slashes and such savage and sadistic hardware as studs, spikes, chains, buckles, zippers, D-Rings, padlocks, safety pins, and razor blades. "PUNK: Chaos to Couture" examines the impact of punk's aesthetic of brutality on high fashion, focusing especially on its do-it-yourself, rip-it-to-shreds ethos, the antithesis of couture's made-to-measure exactitude. Indeed, punk's democracy stands in direct opposition to fashion's autocracy in which trends are driven by the artistic expression of the designer rather than by the dictates of the wearer. Yet as this book reveals, even the haute couture has readily appropriated the visual and symbolic language of punk, replacing beads with studs, paillettes with safety pins, and feathers with razor blades in its attempt to capture and reflect the style's youthful rebelliousness and aggressive forcefulness. Focusing on high fashion's embrace of punk's aesthetic vocabulary, this extraordinarily designed and produced book reveals how the quintessential anti-establishment style has been co-opted, exploited, and transformed by designers in their search for new ideals of beauty and new definitions of fashionability.
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to be honest,chanelcouture,that is precisely what made viv a visionary. together with rei kawakubo,she changed the way people thought about fashion and silly social codes. remember punk was a reaction to excess and pretense. it was anti-materialisation. she paved a long quite revolutionary road for a lot of designers. imo,if it weren't for punk fashion laying the groundwork,we would have never seen the deconstruction movement in the late 80's and 90's.

also,depending on how they actually execute this,it could actually go a bit deeper than the proverbial chains and mohawks. hopefully they do take this as a way to present the social aspects of the punk movement not merely for the sake of fashion.

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Alexander McQueen Fall 2008 Dress with Rodarte from the same season and vintage Westwood at the METís Punk preview.

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Finally a sneak peak. I hope it's Galliano/Dior heavy. I'm tired of seeing that Rodarte dress on display everywhere. Hoping this will turn out to be a great show...

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Will we really see Galliano's Dior worn by the guests? I can see it being in the presentation and maybe worn by models like Jessica Stam but not elsewhere. Would Dior want Galliano's name abound when they've been persistent in disassociating themselves from him?

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Will we really see Galliano's Dior worn by the guests? I can see it being in the presentation and maybe worn by models like Jessica Stam but not elsewhere. Would Dior want Galliano's name abound when they've been persistent in disassociating themselves from him?
I mean in the show. Stam did wear one of John's dresses last year. It was Fall 2006 Couture.

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i think what they're attempting with that rodarte knit is to draw parallels from the past with the present work of modern designers.....illustrating the elemental influence. you can actually see behind their dress a vintage knit from that era....probably by westwood. certainly appropriate given the popularity of those particular rodarte pieces.

btw,i'm hoping they include some of the belgian and japanese work in this.

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