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Old 08-11-2005   #31
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This would be much more interesting if it wasn't a denim-based line. Do we really need more designer denim?
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Old 08-11-2005   #32
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...i'm thinking "mick-you" ...
Like McDonalds. Mick Q. Mick cue. Whatever.

The jeans in the runway pic Brian posted are . That logoing is horrible. No more tasteful than any of those generic trendy crap logo-y denim labels like Seven For All Mankind, etc.
 
Old 08-11-2005   #33
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"Alexander McQueen" and "denim" should not be in the same sentence.
 
Old 08-11-2005   #34
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maybe not. but to scream that he's selling out because it's a diffusion line is an elitist attitude. if he was smart he'd invest a bit more into exploring that area, as he needs to turn a profit. he could even create slightly more affordable clothing that appeals to his more avant-garde followers, and kill two birds with one stone... why shouldn't he branch out?
Well, he's never really been about affordable, functional design, has he. I don't find diffusion lines objectionable as a matter of principle; it's the idea of McQueen diffusion line that makes me want to run and hide. McQueen's work, despite all its arty trappings, has always been slightly tacky, but has usually been rescued by its opulence. Take away the opulence, and what remains?
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Old 08-11-2005   #35
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one McQ burger please, hold the denim.
 
Old 08-11-2005   #36
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I was pronouncing it 'Mc-Q' in my head. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Whether is a Miu Miu or Versace jeans or if it indeed can provide him with the financial stability he needs to be risky with his rtw.
 
Old 08-11-2005   #37
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I'd be more excited about this if I didn't think McQ would be so... loud. It worries me that the diffusion line will turn out a little bit like D&G, but then again I don't think McQueen is "popular" enough to have a collection with tons of logo tees and tacky jeans.
 
Old 08-11-2005   #38
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I think too that this is gonna be a big success. A diffusion line of a man like McQ is bound to commercially hit. Which of course does not mean that it will look good. but, we will see... I am at least curious about it...
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Old 08-11-2005   #39
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Well, he's never really been about affordable, functional design, has he. I don't find diffusion lines objectionable as a matter of principle; it's the idea of McQueen diffusion line that makes me want to run and hide. McQueen's work, despite all its arty trappings, has always been slightly tacky, but has usually been rescued by its opulence. Take away the opulence, and what remains?
i think even if he doesn't care about creating affordable clothing he certainly could do it. was he not a tailor at saville row? his clothes if you strip it's opulence away are cut well and have great proportions. even his arty touches, such as the merry-go-round theme collection, could have fanastical prints on garments instead of costly embellishments. i think any great designer could and maybe should have a diffusion line, not only because it's smart, but because i would love to see them step up to the challenge at creating great clothing inexpensively. i think maybe i'm taking the industrial design perspective that such restaints are what equals really good design.
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Old 08-11-2005   #40
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i would love to see them step up to the challenge at creating great clothing inexpensively. i think maybe i'm taking the industrial design perspective that such restaints are what equals really good design.

Agreed, it's more challenging and interesting to try to create great stuff on a (tight) budget!
 
Old 08-11-2005   #41
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Agreed, it's more challenging and interesting to try to create great stuff on a (tight) budget!
True. However, do you think any designers with diffusion lines truly think of them in this light? Do most designers not simply assign a team to the diffusion line under the instruction from some conglomerate headquarters to make cheap, commercial clothes? I can't say that I've ever seen a piece of diffusion line clothing that looked as if it was the creative result of a restrictive challenge.
 
Old 08-11-2005   #42
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I'm rather exited about this, after all, it might be really good
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Old 08-11-2005   #43
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I'm rather exited about this, after all, it might be really good
me too!
 
Old 08-11-2005   #44
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^ Alex, it was merely wishful thinking, a response to travolta

The reality of diffusion lines is more grim...
 
Old 08-11-2005   #45
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Hussein Chalayan´s womenswear diffusion is really, really good, absolutely as witty as his mainline collection, but then again, he´s not forced to turn profits as much as McQueen is theses days, I guess that´s what sets him apart. I agree with everybody´s point-of-view towards the well known, Ittierre produced diffusion lines... D&G, Just Cavalli, C'N'C Costume National, Versace Jeans Couture, all of them are horrendous, both the design and quality sucks for the pricepoint. I have had several friends buying See by Chloe, I´m not so farmiliar with their quality, though... could somebody tell me?
 
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