Balenciaga F/W 13.14 Paris - Page 7

Mathewthew · 28-02-2013

It's cool et edge. I like it, you can't find any mistake here. Every elements is cool and edgy. He play it well and safe. As a debut, you can't really say anything bad about his collection.
BUT, the legacy of Nicolas is totally vanished. The Balenciaga we've seen has now become a commercial house now ( as they want ! ). For me, Nicolas has done something so innovative and experimental among all the fashion labels out there. And that's what Fashion is missing right now and that's what Balenciaga is about. I personally don't think he can do it. As the direction they are taking now, I think he will be doing fine.

saindoux · 28-02-2013

I think its important to acknowledge that both Wang and Ghesquière referenced the Balenciaga archives, meaning there will be similarities in their work.

christian zh · 28-02-2013

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emailme. · 28-02-2013

Can we remember that Alexander has a a whole team behind team him to execute his ideas? I wasn't entirely shocked it would be great. Alexander Wang's strong suit has always been branding. Like that article said, he did a lot of research.

I'm just frustrated with the 'half full' opinions. For a debut collection, it's appropriate and effective to go back to basics (e.g. Celine, Dior) so the point of it being too referential and simple is invalid. Actually Alexander Wang is in the details of this collection in particular the hardware like the large chains on the bag, knot bracelets, and fabrics like the cracked leather.

My prediction is we'll see more of these Wang-like details in future collections which lends its hands to making Balenciaga more modern. And what grungy and downtowner is to his own line, is what refined and sophisticated will be to Balenciaga.

KemAlnagdy · 28-02-2013

I'm not exactly an Alexander Wang fan, but this is one of the best collections I've ever seen in a while!

imagensfashions · 28-02-2013

pretty, but nothing new

**Marc10** · 28-02-2013

By far the best collection he has ever produced. I was keeping my expectations very low for this one, because even though I loved his NY show, he never really wowed me before. But he really did here. The coats in the beginning had a great construction and silhouette. The monochromatic looks are super sophisticated and sharp, with a touch of couture even. But his work with texture on the final looks made this collection a winner. He can really put an interesting spin on fabrics. The collection is pure Balenciaga DNA but an incredible ejection of edge. It's modern and strong but with a intelligent touch of finesse.

True may be, it is still long from Ghesquière's past glory, but Wang certainly exceeded expectations and based on the first test, scored an A.

TREVOFASHIONISTO · 28-02-2013

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Originally Posted by Mathewthew

It's cool et edge. I like it, you can't find any mistake here. Every elements is cool and edgy. He play it well and safe. As a debut, you can't really say anything bad about his collection.
BUT, the legacy of Nicolas is totally vanished. The Balenciaga we've seen has now become a commercial house now ( as they want ! ). For me, Nicolas has done something so innovative and experimental among all the fashion labels out there. And that's what Fashion is missing right now and that's what Balenciaga is about. I personally don't think he can do it. As the direction they are taking now, I think he will be doing fine.

while we can celebrate his artistic direction, was the house happy with the profits they were making on his clothing? Probably not. The decision to hire Wang was to bring a sense of commericial appeal to the brand. I don't think Nicolas' legacy is what's important here, yet I don't think Alex or Balencaiaga is trying to wipe that away. While he was a huge part of the brand he is not the face of Balenciaga, Cristobal is. Nicolas even knew that as the WWD article states Alex was looking into the archives and seeing where Nicolas was referencing. If anything this collection is respecting both Nicolas and Cristobal.

simple_elegance · 28-02-2013

I ADORE those crackled and marbled pieces! (Except for those puffy ones at the end.)

Mathewthew · 28-02-2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by TREVOFASHIONISTO

while we can celebrate his artistic direction, was the house happy with the profits they were making on his clothing? Probably not. The decision to hire Wang was to bring a sense of commericial appeal to the brand. I don't think Nicolas' legacy is what's important here, yet I don't think Alex or Balencaiaga is trying to wipe that away. While he was a huge part of the brand he is not the face of Balenciaga, Cristobal is. Nicolas even knew that as the WWD article states Alex was looking into the archives and seeing where Nicolas was referencing. If anything this collection is respecting both Nicolas and Cristobal.

I know exactly the reason of Hiring Wang. As I said the collection is perfect for what they want and expect. I know sales is important. I'm just feeling sad to there's no place in this fashion world for experimental and innovation. We are all about branding and commercially success.

ad041715 · 28-02-2013

Fantastic collection. I'm in love with so many pieces here and needless to say I've gained a new respect for Alexander. I was hoping for some color but regardless this is an impressive debut.

tricotineacetat · 28-02-2013

I don't think there is anything wrong with this collection - for the very least, this should be able to translate seamlessly from runway to retail, which Nicolas' collections hardly ever did (It's indeed true that the collection often times didn't appear like a cohesive 'whole', with a lot of rather bland, commercial takes on certain ideas from the runway). Let's see what else he can bring to the table after playing out the archival-Balenciaga card...

ogepma · 28-02-2013

I am in a dilemma here! I am still reeling over Nicholas G's exit but I can't hide my love for this collection. I am genuinely over whelmed. Maybe its because I had very low expectations in the first place but for a debut collection, this is amazing. The structure, the materials, the subtle looking but very delicate embroidery are simply wonderful. I also loved the presentation and you could definitely see a nice continuation with the modern aesthetic of the house. I just hope it doesn't get any more commercial than this.

TianSoFine · 28-02-2013

I've never been much of a Wang fan but this is definitely a solid debut! It's been a while since I've seen anything this good from the house of Balenciaga. It's elegant, cool, and very relevant to modern women.

educo · 28-02-2013

If PPR's goal was to take Balenciaga in a more commercial direction, then Wang succeeded. You can't deny that Wang KNOWS how to do that. Which makes those marble print treatments so wrong for this debut.

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Mathewthew backstage pass Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Earth Gender: homme Posts: 558	It's cool et edge. I like it, you can't find any mistake here. Every elements is cool and edgy. He play it well and safe. As a debut, you can't really say anything bad about his collection. BUT, the legacy of Nicolas is totally vanished. The Balenciaga we've seen has now become a commercial house now ( as they want ! ). For me, Nicolas has done something so innovative and experimental among all the fashion labels out there. And that's what Fashion is missing right now and that's what Balenciaga is about. I personally don't think he can do it. As the direction they are taking now, I think he will be doing fine. __________________ There are some lines that are way too dangerous to cross. If you're willing to take a chance, the view from the other side is spectacular.

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emailme. V.I.P. Join Date: Jan 2006 Gender: homme Posts: 3,751	Can we remember that Alexander has a a whole team behind team him to execute his ideas? I wasn't entirely shocked it would be great. Alexander Wang's strong suit has always been branding. Like that article said, he did a lot of research. I'm just frustrated with the 'half full' opinions. For a debut collection, it's appropriate and effective to go back to basics (e.g. Celine, Dior) so the point of it being too referential and simple is invalid. Actually Alexander Wang is in the details of this collection in particular the hardware like the large chains on the bag, knot bracelets, and fabrics like the cracked leather. My prediction is we'll see more of these Wang-like details in future collections which lends its hands to making Balenciaga more modern. And what grungy and downtowner is to his own line, is what refined and sophisticated will be to Balenciaga. __________________ Check out my instagram!

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Marc10 V.I.P. Mod Squad Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Gender: homme Posts: 17,515	By far the best collection he has ever produced. I was keeping my expectations very low for this one, because even though I loved his NY show, he never really wowed me before. But he really did here. The coats in the beginning had a great construction and silhouette. The monochromatic looks are super sophisticated and sharp, with a touch of couture even. But his work with texture on the final looks made this collection a winner. He can really put an interesting spin on fabrics. The collection is pure Balenciaga DNA but an incredible ejection of edge. It's modern and strong but with a intelligent touch of finesse. True may be, it is still long from Ghesquière's past glory, but Wang certainly exceeded expectations and based on the first test, scored an A. __________________ we are the music makers, we are the dreamers of dreams. wandering by lone sea breakers and sitting by desolate streams. world losers and world forsakers, on whom the pale moon gleams. yet we are the movers and shakers of the world for ever it seems

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TianSoFine fashion insider Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: a metropolis of dreams Gender: femme Posts: 2,436	I've never been much of a Wang fan but this is definitely a solid debut! It's been a while since I've seen anything this good from the house of Balenciaga. It's elegant, cool, and very relevant to modern women. __________________ my twitter my tumblr

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saindoux windowshopping Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: New York Gender: homme Posts: 1	I think its important to acknowledge that both Wang and Ghesquière referenced the Balenciaga archives, meaning there will be similarities in their work.

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christian zh V.I.P. Join Date: Apr 2010 Gender: homme Posts: 8,376	Full Show

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KemAlnagdy tfs star Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Cairo Gender: homme Posts: 1,623	I'm not exactly an Alexander Wang fan, but this is one of the best collections I've ever seen in a while!

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imagensfashions backstage pass Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Brasil Gender: homme Posts: 958	pretty, but nothing new

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simple_elegance V.I.P. Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Atlanta Gender: femme Posts: 4,330	I ADORE those crackled and marbled pieces! (Except for those puffy ones at the end.)

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ad041715 V.I.P. Join Date: Feb 2009 Gender: homme Posts: 5,833	Fantastic collection. I'm in love with so many pieces here and needless to say I've gained a new respect for Alexander. I was hoping for some color but regardless this is an impressive debut.

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tricotineacetat fashion insider Join Date: Apr 2005 Gender: homme Posts: 2,122	I don't think there is anything wrong with this collection - for the very least, this should be able to translate seamlessly from runway to retail, which Nicolas' collections hardly ever did (It's indeed true that the collection often times didn't appear like a cohesive 'whole', with a lot of rather bland, commercial takes on certain ideas from the runway). Let's see what else he can bring to the table after playing out the archival-Balenciaga card...

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ogepma front row Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London Gender: homme Posts: 331	I am in a dilemma here! I am still reeling over Nicholas G's exit but I can't hide my love for this collection. I am genuinely over whelmed. Maybe its because I had very low expectations in the first place but for a debut collection, this is amazing. The structure, the materials, the subtle looking but very delicate embroidery are simply wonderful. I also loved the presentation and you could definitely see a nice continuation with the modern aesthetic of the house. I just hope it doesn't get any more commercial than this.

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educo fashion elite Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NYC Gender: femme Posts: 2,548	If PPR's goal was to take Balenciaga in a more commercial direction, then Wang succeeded. You can't deny that Wang KNOWS how to do that. Which makes those marble print treatments so wrong for this debut.