The Death Of A Designer... - Page 3

Lena · 21-12-2003

something more.

investors instead of investing in old labels should take attention to new designers.
it obviously involves risks and this is a 'short time investment' but its the only way fashion can go forward 'developing' and profitable. This could bring a fresh take on what is cool today, we need more money invested to young talent. There are so many brilliant designers out there who do not have the means to compete with super labels and their creativity gets unoticed from lack of financial support.

ignitioned32 · 21-12-2003

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Originally posted by Lena@Dec 21st, 2003 - 4:37 am
as Nicolas G. work is so NOT in the spirit of the house of Balenciaga.

Just IMO, Nicolas Ghesquiere’s huge popularity in the fashion world is due to his ability to innovate while still respecting the tradition of his label’s namesake, Cristobal Balenciaga.

Proof of this can be seen in his recent collections. Like the A line coats and the stiffness of the 1960's Balenciaga was all seen at the Fall 2003 show. And the heavy, architectual clothes Cristobal was known for was seen at the Spring 2004 show.

Lena · 21-12-2003

OT

i disagree igni, i just cant see the Balenciaga connection in his work.
Elbaz, Sibylla, Matrin Grant, Ralf Rucci are far more into the Balenciaga mood than Nicolas G.
As for the reasons that made him famous i suspect them to be: his drop dead good looks and an amazing circle of hype. His soft 'fallen angels' debut collections with dripping tulles and

lace i'm sure they gave Christobal's poor soul the creeps, so NOT in the austere mood of the house

ignitioned32 · 21-12-2003

Now I really think the houses should die with the designers.

Lena you have a point there. Since Nicolas G. is not Cristobal he cannot maintain all the aspects of the house. Like sure he has the architectual and stiffness of Balenciaga and makes it right for today but he doesn't maintain the austere-ness of the house. If the designer can't maintain everything he better be off on his own.

**Scott** · 21-12-2003

Sorry of topic:

Did anyone think Nicolas' earlier collections(first three seasons,that is)were far better than of late? I think those collections were far more in tune with fluidity an structure that made Cristobal famous.

Fall 98:

**Scott** · 21-12-2003

Spring 99

**Scott** · 21-12-2003

Fall 99

Spacemiu · 22-12-2003

being of scubject: btu id o leik nicholas's work, despite the massive hype, it think Balenciaga was creating a modern constructed but still romantic clothing, and I think Nicholas is doing the same, I certinly dount think he is any wear near balenciaga, btu i think he is respecting the spirit ut still doing his won thing, wich if you must put a desigenr at an odl hosue, wich as is aid befor i despise, than this si teh ebst you can ask for IMO.

so_pink · 22-12-2003

givenchy and billblass are two prime examples of how fashion is always evolving..
u have audrey hepburn..the quittessential fashion icon of elegance ..givenchy made her style a eternal fashion standard. today u see so much emulation for his clothes then..but not now.. b/c givenchy is not there himself to design them.. i think the label should develop a revival campaign bringing back the hepburn/givenchy era... as for bill blass...i pity that designer who recently got fired... see i don't even know his name! i didnt think his clothes were all that great either.

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Lena etre soi-meme Profile: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: europe Gender: femme Posts: 23,969	something more. investors instead of investing in old labels should take attention to new designers. it obviously involves risks and this is a 'short time investment' but its the only way fashion can go forward 'developing' and profitable. This could bring a fresh take on what is cool today, we need more money invested to young talent. There are so many brilliant designers out there who do not have the means to compete with super labels and their creativity gets unoticed from lack of financial support. __________________ @La_Lena_ http://pinterest.com/lenapins/

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Lena etre soi-meme Profile: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: europe Gender: femme Posts: 23,969	OT i disagree igni, i just cant see the Balenciaga connection in his work. Elbaz, Sibylla, Matrin Grant, Ralf Rucci are far more into the Balenciaga mood than Nicolas G. As for the reasons that made him famous i suspect them to be: his drop dead good looks and an amazing circle of hype. His soft 'fallen angels' debut collections with dripping tulles and lace i'm sure they gave Christobal's poor soul the creeps, so NOT in the austere mood of the house __________________ @La_Lena_ http://pinterest.com/lenapins/

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Spacemiu V.I.P. Profile: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Los Angeles Gender: homme Posts: 9,450	being of scubject: btu id o leik nicholas's work, despite the massive hype, it think Balenciaga was creating a modern constructed but still romantic clothing, and I think Nicholas is doing the same, I certinly dount think he is any wear near balenciaga, btu i think he is respecting the spirit ut still doing his won thing, wich if you must put a desigenr at an odl hosue, wich as is aid befor i despise, than this si teh ebst you can ask for IMO. __________________ Oceans of angels, oceans of stars

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ignitioned32 Mannikin Profile: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Manila Gender: homme Posts: 4,704	Now I really think the houses should die with the designers. Lena you have a point there. Since Nicolas G. is not Cristobal he cannot maintain all the aspects of the house. Like sure he has the architectual and stiffness of Balenciaga and makes it right for today but he doesn't maintain the austere-ness of the house. If the designer can't maintain everything he better be off on his own.

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so_pink rising star Profile: Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 108	givenchy and billblass are two prime examples of how fashion is always evolving.. u have audrey hepburn..the quittessential fashion icon of elegance ..givenchy made her style a eternal fashion standard. today u see so much emulation for his clothes then..but not now.. b/c givenchy is not there himself to design them.. i think the label should develop a revival campaign bringing back the hepburn/givenchy era... as for bill blass...i pity that designer who recently got fired... see i don't even know his name! i didnt think his clothes were all that great either.