they seem to be just beads.
mulletproof calls them pailettes.
i think the second YSL is by machine too. there is laser nowadays.
does anyone agree/disagree.. the work of a person is a tragedy if you can find a way to do it faster, more precise by machine.
guess you have to draw the line somewhere...
for myself i sometimes go back and forth. i don't always have the facilities to do something faster, so i do it by hand. but i haven't got to the point where i feel it's unnecessary work. from a business perspective, maybe i am a would-be failure So thank god for birthing the word demi-couture
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I personally love the idea of demi-couture. There's something very romantic about it (or maybe it's just the way Olivier described it and created it at Rochas).
Do you remember what he said? I thought the article was on tFS --I remember seeing the word demi-couture a couple of times.. but I can't find it
I'm kind of rethinking what I wrote earlier, the 'definition' of the term
I posted Calvin Klein SS 09 after it. I don't think those pieces have as much work at all compared to the Balenciaga posted so far, and Theysken's/Rodarte's work.. I think their fabrics were woven by hand mostly because it lets more air pass through, with the ribbons they're using. It could be more function rather than artistry
I've seen interviews with Ralph Rucci and he says he does some couture but he calls it RTW so that they can put a lower price point on it. Seriously.
Couture pricetags often denote something near unreachable...
I think someone said it was hand-cut leather (?)
(I could have just completely made that up )
I've been trying to find the price everywhere; I remember it being posted. $25,000?
Right..According to US Bazaar January 2009, it costs $24,995..I doubt it was hand-cut, because it would be totally unnecessary and lavish to made by hand and apparently laser is more efficient and more accurate in this part .
i veto the Dolce. while it's pretty, i wouldn't say its got anything to do with Haute Couture. unless all the crystals are elaborately handapplied in some atelier in Paris...
high prices =/= demi-couture.
it has to have something beside embroidery to really "elevate it" from just expensive and elaborate RTW. a certain artful touch. some special technique.
like those t-shirts from The Row with the single seam in the back which was sewn in a certain special couture technique (forgot the specifics).
I'm not seeing why we need to argue about what is and isn't demi-couture, as there is no formal definition and it doesn't have any of the firm rules of haute couture, but price seems to be just as good of a way to separate it from normal RTW as anything. Even some of (in my opinion) the best couture has little in the way of special techniques. Look at Chanel couture, for example. Beautiful clothes, but most of them (sans the S/S09 collection) owe their brillance to beautiful beading and embellishment, not to sewing skills. (By the way, the Row's back seam is just a French seam, if I remember correctly, and it's not something that is all that special.)