Dries Van Noten F/W 07.08 Paris

[seanutbutter]

Originally Posted by laika

Right now, I am having very lustful thoughts about this bag.
{style and elle.com}

That bag is absolutely beautiful. Does anyone know how much it is going for or where I can find it (online, preferably)?

[Jacque Marcel]

This collection was one of the best for fall, absolutely gorgeous.

[laika]

Originally Posted by seanutbutter

That bag is absolutely beautiful. Does anyone know how much it is going for or where I can find it (online, preferably)?

Not in stores yet over here, but I will let you know if I see it. I"m guessing it will be around 1200-1500.

As for online, the only place i know of that carries Dries handbags is monamoore.com. They are still in spring sale mode, however.

[seanutbutter]

^ Thanks for the information! If it does go for that price, then my dreams of buying it just flew out the window.

[gius]

ok laika i found out about the sequins..
they say those are usually made of plastic
i guess they buy them clear (like white) and then dye it themselves
we can use a dye for polyester, which will dye plastic too.. it's very toxic though

did you get the dresses you ordered?
i was wondering if you could tell me about the knotted dresses, if they stitch the knots in place (i mean imagine someone's child unravelling the clothes )

[laika]

Gius, thank you for that! Do you mean that Dries' sequins are toxic or do they use a special dye?

re: the knotting: Do you mean the skirts or the dresses? The dresses have actual knots (two narrow ends tied together) and I don't think they are stitched. The knots are very dense though....it would be hard for a child to pick them apart. They may be stitched on the inside, but somehow, that seems unlikely, knowing Dries.

I am still trying to figure out the skirts, because they seem more twisted than knotted (i.e., there are no "ends")

Now that I am thinking about it, it's strange they say that the knotting was inspired by India....because there is no visible knotting in traditional Indian clothing (at least that I have seen). It's all tucking, wrapping, pleating, and folding. When there are knots, they are just to hold the bottom layer in place, and usually not visible.

[gius]

It's the dye that's toxic but I hear it creates really brilliant colours. I haven't learnt how to use it yet

That's really cool to hear about the knots I remember hearing the clothes are so thin they can fit into a little pocket-sized bag.. So, it could be a reason they can create the knots so tight
I looked at the collection again and you're right.. some of the skirts seem twisted. I was reading about 'saris' in India a little while ago and it's true they don't really say that they use knots.. It's mostly draping, and it's tucked into a tight-fitting garment the person wears under all the fabrics. ...So I'm guessing it's the draping effect that Dries is going for, not the knots... Also you can see how for some of the shirts/dresses, the knot is placed somewhere high which would create these U-shape folds in the fabric
All the knots and twists seem placed in certain places to create interesting folds and draping over the body... I think that's what they go for in Indian clothing. What a cool way to make clothing! I think Yohji Yamamoto incorporated knots into one of his older collections as well

[gius]

Oh just read the style.com review for this collection...
They say the Indian inspiration was through the paisley and all the beadwork/embroidery Who knows why Dries chose knots--very cool either way

I also wonder how the clothes will feel
I have some polyester clothing which don't feel very nice on the skin
and they also create a lot of static when I wear them (or when I wash and dry them in the machine)--Each time I go out in them, I always get zapped when I touch something metal.
I also have polyester that feels great.. it's sportswear and stretchy.. but it also creates the static.

These jackets in Dries' collection here seem so light-weight and thin.. I wonder how warm it is! And what exactly is inside the quilted ones, what they use for stuffing My schoolmate has a vest that's very light also, but she says it's so warm.. And She won't let me rip her vest open a bit to check if it's goosedown or what I'm quite obsessive with wearing light things.. Heavy fabric is only good for bags, imo

[SiennaInLondon]

See I think this is quite average for Dries. I disagree with someone earlier who said it was just 'Dries being Dries' because a designer can be themselves but be themselves well, but I don't think that is the case this time.

I don't mind reference but the indian prints and the shapes are not a hint at the 1990s, they actually look like archived pieces, archived photos. I understand those were the glory days for a lot of these designers but rehashing an era, no matter how well done, means that a collection has to fall short of the descriptions 'inspiring' or 'excallent'.

Or maybe it is a case of the aesthetic being a touch off for me.

[laika]

Originally Posted by gius

I looked at the collection again and you're right.. some of the skirts seem twisted. I was reading about 'saris' in India a little while ago and it's true they don't really say that they use knots.. It's mostly draping, and it's tucked into a tight-fitting garment the person wears under all the fabrics. ...So I'm guessing it's the draping effect that Dries is going for, not the knots... Also you can see how for some of the shirts/dresses, the knot is placed somewhere high which would create these U-shape folds in the fabric
All the knots and twists seem placed in certain places to create interesting folds and draping over the body... I think that's what they go for in Indian clothing. What a cool way to make clothing! I think Yohji Yamamoto incorporated knots into one of his older collections as well

I think you are exactly right about the draping, and how the knots help create it....that is so cool! I too am obsessed by knots...I will have to go search for that Yohji collection.

I was thinking about what you were saying about the lightness/thinness of the fabrics, and I remembered something else about saris. In India they say that the finest silk ones are so thin, that they can be pulled through an engagement ring...

I have one of these--very, very exquisite, and 9 metres long (the longest length for a sari)--and I have always wanted to try this.

I spent a long time trying to figure out how to put it on by myself, but it's actually extremely difficult (if it's not natural to you) and quite uncomfortable. You have to wrap it around your body so many times, and then make so many pleats (especially if you are a small person) and then you have to tuck all those pleats into the petticoat. I guess the addition of the petticoat was the result of british colonial influence...
I would prefer to just "wrap and go," like with a sarong. Or like with Dries' knots....

[woodstock]

these are gorgeous!

[luckyme]

I had a chance to see the new arrivals yesterday. I was a little disappointed to be honest. it was a bit dull, frumpy and lifeless to me. the quilted skirt and jackets we nice but too blah to justify the pricetag. there was a long black sweater dress I loved but it was going to pill easily. the cement sheer tunic with purple swirls was a standout; the cut, the colors and the fabric still have me thinking about it, unfortunately it seemed very fragile to wear often enough.

I can't wait to see the "monkey" sweater and the leather pants.


anyone else have opinions on after seeing it in person?

[untitledheroe]

hello, just to let everybody know that you can see the entire dries van noten a/w 2007-2008 video
via the site http://www.telenet.be/vitrine click on garage tv
or via this link http://www.garagetv.be/video-galerij...2007_2008.aspx

[kahlilg]

They're ok. Some of the pieces I would never EVER wear. And some, I would be nothing but happy to. Which means this line has a HUGE range, which I think is a good thing.

[Lisa~~~*]

Originally Posted by untitledheroe

hello, just to let everybody know that you can see the entire dries van noten a/w 2007-2008 video
via the site http://www.telenet.be/vitrine click on garage tv
or via this link http://www.garagetv.be/video-galerij...2007_2008.aspx

thank u for video (the music from this show is very cool) and Thank u for HQ's pics so much.(Please post more HQ's pics,please)

Every piece so amazing and very Gorgeous,I love this collection.