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Old 24-11-2009   #271
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If Saint Laurent detested Tom Ford, he surely had his reasons...but you can't compare Tom Ford to Ms. Lohan, no matter the cause.
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Old 24-11-2009   #272
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^ Nor can you compare Emanuel Ungaro to a notoriously temperamental manic depressive for that matter.

I mean, for him to say something so long after retreating quietly from the spotlight he must have been mortified.

I wouldn't blame him.
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Old 24-11-2009   #273
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Lindsay Lohan Won’t Be Going Away From Ungaro Any Time Soon




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Lindsay Lohan’s rumor-filled relationship with fashion house Emanuel Ungaro has finally reached a verdict in the “will-she-or-won’t-she-stay” drama: the House wins and Lindsay stays!!!
Last week HollywoodLife.com told you that Lindsay’s career at Ungaro was on the rocks, but Ungaro CEO Mounir Moufarrige told Reuters at the Milan Fashion Global Fashion Summit that Lindsay is staying because “she has a job to do.”
As for recent comments from label founder Emanuel Ungaro, Moufarrige says, “Mr Ungaro has his views, he can keep them. I have no comment.”
Congratulations, Lindsay! Fingers crossed your second collection is a hit, not a miss!
Check out the full story at Reuters.com.
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Old 24-11-2009   #274
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Does Moufarrige have a mental handicap that no one has spoken about publicly or is he just that dense.

Clearly it wasn't just pretentious fashion folk who didn't care for the collection if it was ignored by so many retailers.
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Old 24-11-2009   #275
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^let's not put this collection in a vacuum. many of our favorite designers' first collections at new houses got panned. again, not comparing talents, just reactions: anyone remember pilati's first show for ysl? or mcqueen's first for givenchy? or marc jacobs at vuitton? or gaultier at hermes? the first collection getting panned is almost a rite of passage....it's all about what happens next.
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^let's not put this collection in a vacuum. many of our favorite designers' first collections at new houses got panned. again, not comparing talents, just reactions: anyone remember pilati's first show for ysl? or mcqueen's first for givenchy? or marc jacobs at vuitton? or gaultier at hermes? the first collection getting panned is almost a rite of passage....it's all about what happens next.
Yes, a designer's first collection at new houses are usually criticized harshly but let's not compare an actress with a multitude of issues to trained and well studied designers.

However, I will say that the collection was not as bad as they are making it out to be. I don't agree with it being dropped from retailers. I'm sure quite a bit of it would have sold.
 
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All they wanted from Lohan was to bring publicity to the house and that's exactly what happened. No matter what they produce from now on, people will be watching. They can drop her later.
 
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^besides....it's not like it's lohan sketching the clothes and sewing them.
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Old 25-11-2009   #279
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Well, everyone is getting something out of this...Ungaro gets lots of (free) press, Lindsay gets attention and maybe some much needed cash, and hopefully the real designers can crank up a decent collection and pull the line back from the edge of the cliff...The real concern is that the company is in a desperate financial situation, and losing major retail outlets and what little is left of it's reputation could be the beginning of the end for them all...
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^let's not put this collection in a vacuum. many of our favorite designers' first collections at new houses got panned. again, not comparing talents, just reactions: anyone remember pilati's first show for ysl? or mcqueen's first for givenchy? or marc jacobs at vuitton? or gaultier at hermes? the first collection getting panned is almost a rite of passage....it's all about what happens next.
Getting panned and being dropped by retailers are two very, very different things. Besides, the designers you mentioned got panned by critics, but editors still pulled the clothes to be photographed and retailers still sold the collections. This collection doesn't seem to have strong support from any end.

To me the buyer's perspective is the most telling one in this case, because if they saw any value, quality or appeal in the clothes they'd likely be selling it. I'm guessing that quality must have been an issue, in addition to the aesthetics. I mean, that $6,000 pink mini dress looks badly made in a photo...I can't imagine it looking better up close and inside out.
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Old 25-11-2009   #281
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I really did not enjoy it, although, congrats for Lindsay for throwing her hat into the ring...gotta give her kudos for trying, right?
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Getting panned and being dropped by retailers are two very, very different things. Besides, the designers you mentioned got panned by critics, but editors still pulled the clothes to be photographed and retailers still sold the collections. This collection doesn't seem to have strong support from any end.

To me the buyer's perspective is the most telling one in this case, because if they saw any value, quality or appeal in the clothes they'd likely be selling it. I'm guessing that quality must have been an issue, in addition to the aesthetics. I mean, that $6,000 pink mini dress looks badly made in a photo...I can't imagine it looking better up close and inside out.
i agree, but i just wouldn't count this horse out of the race quite yet.
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Old 26-11-2009   #283
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Getting panned and being dropped by retailers are two very, very different things. Besides, the designers you mentioned got panned by critics, but editors still pulled the clothes to be photographed and retailers still sold the collections. This collection doesn't seem to have strong support from any end.

To me the buyer's perspective is the most telling one in this case, because if they saw any value, quality or appeal in the clothes they'd likely be selling it. I'm guessing that quality must have been an issue, in addition to the aesthetics. I mean, that $6,000 pink mini dress looks badly made in a photo...I can't imagine it looking better up close and inside out.
I agree, also suppose everyone pulled the clothes to be photographed what is the point in that, if the reader will not be able to go out and buy it because no one is carrying the line??? They are very...how do you say....SCREWED I think this line needs Zac....i see him fitting right in to the Ungaro element.
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Old 26-11-2009   #284
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I think with the right atmosphere and the right styling and without those kitschy hearts, the collection would have been not as half bad. Some of the outfits, especially the more simple ones with the draping sleeves and the relax fitted blazers are great.

If buyers not wanting to sell Ungaro next season is due to poor quality, then it isn't Lohan's fault. But I think some of these buyers find it hard to blame the actual house for creating inadequate pieces of clothing so they feel the need to quickly point at Lohan as the cause of the problem.
 
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But I think she is responsible for the quality if she's the Creative Director of the house. She's responsible for the entire direction so she should get the blame.
 
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