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Old 30-04-2007   #46
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the hedi slimane- era is over. just like the tom ford-era, just like the helmut lang-era. and he knows it is over. now, he is just trying to ensure his retirement ($)

i would be really surprised if his own label would be so succesful. Besides aging rockstars, I cant see anyone wearing his stuff. The last dior homme-show was so extremely dull and boring, there was no energy, no excitement, nothing.

kris van assche is gonna mess it up at dior, im 100% sure of that. but regarding hedi slimane and his own label, in my opinion its just another label that takes the spot in paris fashion week from an up-and-coming-designer. all just to show the next boring (black or jersey or leather or skinny) collection to hang on the racks in printemps

it is funny that someone mentioned dries and ann somewhere, because i do think someone like hedi should wipe his nose and take example of the true icons.

*but he cant because he needs someone to pay him. because i just read somewhere that dior homme apparently didnt make any profit AT ALL

ok im gonna stop now, its too hot in the city!!!
this is the kind of thing i dont even dare to think about hedi... but it seems so true at the same time
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Old 30-04-2007   #47
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I would not say that the Hedi era (or Tom era to be honest) is over, but more likely it's over as it was before. With these creative types of people, I think it's hard to move out of something and then move right back into it the exact same way. Nothing is ever as good as the first time in the sense that it's not the same. So I think that Hedi will try something different that will create a different type of new buzz around him (I apply that to Tom also). It's almost like when the Versace era was over. The old was over, but with a little restructuring and such, it's moving back in with a new direction. Although, I could be completely wrong about this situation, but I am optimistic.
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I don't mean that their time has passed, that they are creatively dead or something nor that they SHOULD retire. Sometimes the market decides when they are over or not. (NOT always, sometimes)

But the Hedi-era was (by my opinion) defined by the segment he believed in so much.. The rock 'n' roll-underground-indie-electroclash-new wave-berlin. And it is oversaturated now. THAT 'S over. And for Hedi it was not just a trend, it was his whole system. Whatever he does next, it won't be the same (just like Tom Ford)

This is fashion people, this stuff happens, this is the stuff that makes it exciting and keeps it fun.

By the way, he didnt choose to leave, his contract was finished. And they couldnt settle about a new one...$$$$$$$$$$$
(maybe the studio got fed up of having to wear black and white all the time. or hiding any coloured fabrics behind screens when hedi got in)

And talking about optimism, i would rather see an up-and-coming designer in paris fashionweek.

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Old 30-04-2007   #49
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^ thats so cruelly TRUE..
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Old 30-04-2007   #50
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I don't believe so lena
The true Hedi is much better than the Hedi which is stalking here since SS 05. I want what he did at YSL or at his Dior debut. I want pure aesthetic, no rock, no gimmicks, no t-shirts, no jeans, just design, and I truly believe this is his essence. He will never be (this being a very personnal comment) as talented as Ann, or Raf, because he's still a commercial designer, but he's among the most talented ones! And I can see a niche market brand bearing the "Hedi Slimane" (white letters on a black label I bet!) and working very well. If he manages to move forward.
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Old 30-04-2007   #51
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but telepathic,just think of the millions of dior addicts across the globe that are and will continue to mimick that look. not to mention,there are loads of designers still doing that look in menswear.
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Old 30-04-2007   #52
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The Hedi's "skinny era" might be over in the main scene as the fall silhouette is more american football than rock and roll (look at Lanvin, YSL, and especially Kim Jones:-) But I like it when he is "sticking" to his onw "boys", whoever they are, young, skinny, rock and roll and from the street.

Telepathic, you are so right to say this is his whole system. It could be so bad if he will do sth different.
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Old 30-04-2007   #53
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I don't believe so lena
The true Hedi is much better than the Hedi which is stalking here since SS 05. I want what he did at YSL or at his Dior debut. I want pure aesthetic, no rock, no gimmicks, no t-shirts, no jeans, just design, and I truly believe this is his essence. He will never be (this being a very personnal comment) as talented as Ann, or Raf, because he's still a commercial designer, but he's among the most talented ones! And I can see a niche market brand bearing the "Hedi Slimane" (white letters on a black label I bet!) and working very well. If he manages to move forward.

I agree, through the span of Hedi's career the rock obsessed collections represent only the tail end from 2005 onward. Hedi's challenge is to move beyond them, to move with the world. And personally I believe in those later and very trite Dior Homme collections were the most amazing but hidden womenswear.
from www.thesartorialist.blogspot.com

If this is any sign of what we can expect from Slimane as he breaks out under his own name then perhaps the Dior Homme era is truly over but Slimane's has just begun.

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Old 30-04-2007   #54
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Old 01-05-2007   #55
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I agree, through the span of Hedi's career the rock obsessed collections represent only the tail end from 2005 onward. Hedi's challenge is to move beyond them, to move with the world. And personally I believe in those later and very trite Dior Homme collections were the most amazing but hidden womenswear.
from www.thesartorialist.blogspot.com

If this is any sign of what we can expect from Slimane as he breaks out under his own name then perhaps the Dior Homme era is truly over but Slimane's has just begun.
You're completely right. Hedi can easily move onto a new aesthetic. And if he moves back to early Dior/YSL territory, then I'll be in love forever!
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Old 01-05-2007   #56
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the last couple DH collections were more women's wear than men. especially ss07. infact, the cloth flat out looked better on girls. if u look at magazine editorials of chicks in DH, it's much more flattering. i hope with his own label, Hedi would restore the "masculine" part of "androgyny."

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Old 01-05-2007   #57
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it is funny that there are a million "dior-addicts" in the world, and still dior homme wasn't making any profit.

what is interesting is that you CAN compare hedi with raf and ann, regarding their relationship with art, modern culture and subcultures.

so i am extremely curious about the relevance of a hedi slimane-label, but i guess we will all find out.

meanwhile i continue windowshopping at lanvin homme, cause i love whats happening there!!!

is it also so extremely hot where you all live? its 28 degrees celsius here
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a bit much for april....
 
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telepathicgoat did ya check the the shop in near alesia? there are some lanvin shop good good price i think?
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i mean the shop near Metro Alesia.. they have real reasonable price there!!!
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Old 01-05-2007   #60
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it is funny that there are a million "dior-addicts" in the world, and still dior homme wasn't making any profit.
are you sure that's correct?
 
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