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Ugh, as much as I love Lanvin, I would be really dissapointed if I was a Lanvin consumer, who paid good money for a dress and design that now the entire world will own in polyester!!

He should have changed the dresses, not copied them from previous collections in cheaper frabrics.

I agree, a mother's friend of mine saw this, she bought the one shoulder dress from f/w 2008 (the orange one but in light-blue) and she's angry as hell with this... she said she will never ever gonna enter in a Lavin store anymore. Well... My heart is devided... From one side I'll be really happy buying something that looks exactly from the runway (if I were a woman ) but in the other side... I will feel kind of insulted if I were a Lanvin buyer.

 
 
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I would love the see the pieces in person, but I live in NYC. It's really hard to find collaborations like these at H&M.

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how is that any different?

that, too, would in theory mean that products which Lanvin charges thousands of dollars for could essentially be produced and sold for a fraction of the cost.

take for example a jacket, for which Lanvin could charge $1800 for. the likely price for such an item at H&M would probably be in the ballpark of $200. if the quality is exactly the same, as Elbaz says, then Lanvin is either getting an additional $1600 profit out of it (rough figures, of course). Or alternatively, they are paying that amount too much for its production, if it can infact be produced at H&M costs.

now this of course is not true, saying there is no difference in quality between H&M and Lanvin is absolutely ridicilous. this is where Elbaz is selling out big time, and why I lost a significant amount of respect for him. not because he is doing a collection for H&M, which already might upset some, but because he is talking crap about it in order to sell.

Isn't all designer fashion overpriced largely because you're paying for the brand name and the actual skill of the designer....? It most likely is true that you could reproduce designer items at a fraction of the cost, but it's always been like that on the high street, just that the designers of bigger brands (Lanvin, Chanel etc) are more skillful.

In my opinion, without Alber, H&M wouldn't be able to create anything near to Lanvin quality and design. He says himself in the promo videos that they wanted to create something that normal people could afford to buy, I think the quality of a product doesn't only refer to the production of it but the overall design quality and finished piece.


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why would he copy his old dresses? :S i wanted something new...

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These type of collections always seem to have older pieces remade either look for look or with slight differences.
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Ugh, as much as I love Lanvin, I would be really dissapointed if I was a Lanvin consumer, who paid good money for a dress and design that now the entire world will own in polyester!!

He should have changed the dresses, not copied them from previous collections in cheaper frabrics.
I was going to say "Good thing you aren't (a Lanvin Customer)" but we seem to have secondhand knowledge from someones mother's friend.

Honestly I could care less. I like my Lanvin products and don't can not see myself feeling twisted if this collaboration gave birth to a replica of them.

 
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is the preview on Vogue.fr supposed to be identical? cause i can't access the page, all it gives me it that the page is 'n'est pas disponsible'.

have some people here ever bought something from a designer collabo with H&M? as far as i can remember, they tend to be more cotton, silk, merino and cashmere than 'sateen and polyester'. and since a lot of Lanvin pieces play with the flow of fabric, i think that will be incorporated.

and maybe i just got lucky, but the purchases i made from H&M wore very nicely, felt nice and most importantly are not some polyblend that will melt under fire. then again, if you buy a dress for 10 Euros, what do you expect.
Granted, collaborations of H&M perhaps use a lower percentage of synthetic materials but looking at the promotional photograph, the pieces so far look cheap in my opinion and no amount of 100% silk and cotton talk can change that fact. I understand it is H&M, so what do I expect? ... I suppose I expected it to not look like it came from the Divide collection (or the Divided exclusive collection of last winter). However, I will reserve my full judgement until I have seen the entire collection.

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The dresses are quintessential Lanvin. I'm loving this so far.

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hMM, LET'S SEE WHAT'S UP NEXT. I HAVE TO SEE THE FULL COLLECTION. BUT IT IS NICE TO SEE THE ONE SHOULDER DRESS HERE.

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I like what I see .. and seems very Lanvin .. of course, once you have it at hand, itll melt ... if it rains, I hope you are wearing undies .. still .. nice nice pieces.

Errm .. kinda On/Off topic .. this thread was mentioned on Jezebel.com

http://www.jezebel.com/5667816/lanvi...anvin/gallery/

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I agree, a mother's friend of mine saw this, she bought the one shoulder dress from f/w 2008 (the orange one but in light-blue) and she's angry as hell with this... she said she will never ever gonna enter in a Lavin store anymore. Well... My heart is devided... From one side I'll be really happy buying something that looks exactly from the runway (if I were a woman ) but in the other side... I will feel kind of insulted if I were a Lanvin buyer.
She shouldn't be angry, because she bought it 2 years ago, H&M (even with Lanvin collaboration) is H&M and LANVIN is LANVIN, the lady that are you talking about bought something luxurious, with very high quality and new (by then)... H&M right now is great for all the people who love Lanvin but that can't afford a Lanvin dress (if I were a woman I would buy in H&M, but there's no H&M in Mexico) , and H&M is all about marketing (they are genious) she just should be happy that she can afford a Lanvin dress ... well but that's just what I think.

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Its funny how at the end of each Lanvin fashion show video there´s a HUGE warning conserning copyrights of the designs showed there...

I don´t have anything against big brands doing collaborations for H&M or whatever but I felt dissapointed when I saw that first pic, we´ve been waiting for long to finally see the designs and the first few ones are exact knock off or original Lanvin, it didn´t feel right to me, or better said, it didn´t feel new.

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let's get real here...of course when you do something like this as designer and as a company you want the classics...you want the signatures that are popular. KL did it. stella and V+R too. as did Rei. you see,not everybody can afford main-line designer clothes so i don't really see a faux pas about it. it's just the nature of these sort of endeavours.

 
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^AMEN! That's why collaborations are for... otherwise H&M would hire any independent designer for the store... H&M is doing bussines guys, that's it!

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The whole point of these collaborations is that it's a chance to make things, ideas and designs available to a market that can't really afford to buy the mainlines. It's not about this rather silly woman who will no longer buy Lanvin because a version of her dress is turning up in a H&M collection? What a stupid attitude to have. And to never buy Lanvin again? Cutting your nose off despite your face.

The collections became as exclusive as the main line for the most part, and sometimes, even more so. Pieces are made in such small runs, and really quite hard to get hold of. So while it's opening it up to another market, it's not taking the exclusivity out of it. If Lanvin deemed it okay to do - and they'll have been very well and heavily advised in making their decision - then it has little consequence what's thought of it by everyone else.

I feel like people should be made to watch Karl Lagerfeld's TV ad for his collection again, where he basically shot down these exact same theories.

 
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I'm actually a bit disappointed. I don't really think those dresses looks good on the models and I can't imagine how they'll look on me >_<

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