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i think it's nice, less exciting than his previous collection.

but why they choose Louvre anyway? the theme is totally irrelevant.
they just want to tell ppl that they are sooo rich that they can use any place if they wanna? is that the purpose?

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More like they tried to book Louvre for years and this is the only date available for both.

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Very nice collection! So chic and well put-together! Some looks and pieces are quite exceptional, like the ocean blue tech fabric pants! I do agree that showing this against the backdrop of the Louvre is a misstep, both the collection and the setting do not do anything to each other, and showing a relatively simple-looking collection against a such a grand venue makes it seem pretentious.

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It's a nice collection but it's nothing spectacular either. I was expecting much more and this is just underwhelming.

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It's absolutely nothing. It's quite pitiful and uninspired. As LVMH's Golden Goose this brand should Razzle and Dazzle every season, instead it's become inconsistent and unpredictable and not in a good way. How he can create such polarizing collections is beyond me. One season is a complete smash, a true knockout and the next is department store basic. One good, one bad. It's a never ending cycle with him. Last season was a triumph. Bourgeois Chic with an edge. This season is a pedestrian tourist visiting the Louvre. Ugly leather, unnecessary decoration, and flat out disgusting colors and fabrics. I am disgusted, disappointed, and shocked by this. My worst of the season. For god's sake this is Louis Vuitton, treat it like Louis Vuitton. Leave the basics to the lesser brands.

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I am so bored of those Louis Vuitton overworked pieces.I miss soooooooo much minimalist Nicolas Ghesquière. His early Balenciaga collections or the last one he imagined for the house for instance were so cool, effortless and beautiful.

With Vuitton, he has the need to put too many elements on a single garment which makes the design completely unattractive.

SS17 was way better and less trying hard....

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Wasn't impressed with this collection Ghesquière can do so much better. Let's hope this really was his last collection for LV before he starts his own label, i think Anna Wintour just let the news slip.
https://youtu.be/MdoYnsfv-Zo

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Wasn't impressed with this collection Ghesquière can do so much better. Let's hope this really was his last collection for LV before he starts his own label, i think Anna Wintour just let the news slip.
https://youtu.be/MdoYnsfv-Zo
Anna sure sounded like she said "final show at the Louvre" not sure what tense she was using meaning final show of the season or final show for Louis Vuitton?

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Anna sure as hell said "final show at the Louvre" not sure what tense she was using meaning final show of the season or final show for Louis Vuitton?
I really think she was just referring to it as the final show of the season, as Louis Vuitton is scheduled on the last day of PFW and is seen as the unofficial closer of the fashion season.

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His contract will end in 2018 so his final collection has more chances to be the SS18 or the FW18.

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I was rewatching Marc Jacobs and Louis Vuitton today and it made me so sad to see what has become of this house. Marc really put a lot of work into his LV collections. There was so much artistry and meticulous details. It was a thought process. Even the bags were precious. In it's place is a cold commercialism. The Petite Malle was the only true innovative bag that NG has produced and even that is beginning to feel old. The bags under NG have become very masculine and aggressive. Where is the fantasy? I want NG to work, but he isn't a good fit for a house of this caliber. I only hope that the outcome of him not renewing his contract will result in the founding of his own brand.

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I was rewatching Marc Jacobs and Louis Vuitton today and it made me so sad to see what has become of this house. Marc really put a lot of work into his LV collections. There was so much artistry and meticulous details. It was a thought process. Even the bags were precious. In it's place is a cold commercialism. The Petite Malle was the only true innovative bag that NG has produced and even that is beginning to feel old. The bags under NG have become very masculine and aggressive. Where is the fantasy? I want NG to work, but he isn't a good fit for a house of this caliber. I only hope that the outcome of him not renewing his contract will result in the founding of his own brand.
I agree with everything that you just posted.

I feel that the huge commercial machine at Vuitton can't help but put a tremendous amount of pressure on any designer, no matter how creative.

If anyone deserves to have their own voice heard, without worrying about heritage or history, it is Nicolas. I'd love for him to come out with his own brand.

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I was rewatching Marc Jacobs and Louis Vuitton today and it made me so sad to see what has become of this house. Marc really put a lot of work into his LV collections. There was so much artistry and meticulous details. It was a thought process. Even the bags were precious. In it's place is a cold commercialism. The Petite Malle was the only true innovative bag that NG has produced and even that is beginning to feel old. The bags under NG have become very masculine and aggressive. Where is the fantasy? I want NG to work, but he isn't a good fit for a house of this caliber. I only hope that the outcome of him not renewing his contract will result in the founding of his own brand.
I for one hated whatever MJ did for LV, I remember them because they are downright hideous but perhaps the worst of them all is the lacking in consistency or relevance from the previous collections, so that feels just trendy. Case in points the collections with the girls in yellow coming down from the escalator, were they a homage to 60s bell bottom pants or something?

The farewell collection despite it being dark and all also look really hideous, if you remember the jeans for eg.

The rest felt like a mishmash of other designers or vintage, sorry but no love from me.

I do however like the collaborations with spruce or Murakami though. They had an artistic edge to them. NG's bags are commercialised and that's about it.

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I was rewatching Marc Jacobs and Louis Vuitton today and it made me so sad to see what has become of this house. Marc really put a lot of work into his LV collections. There was so much artistry and meticulous details. It was a thought process. Even the bags were precious. In it's place is a cold commercialism. The Petite Malle was the only true innovative bag that NG has produced and even that is beginning to feel old. The bags under NG have become very masculine and aggressive. Where is the fantasy? I want NG to work, but he isn't a good fit for a house of this caliber. I only hope that the outcome of him not renewing his contract will result in the founding of his own brand.
I agree. Marc was such a fabulous fit at Vuitton. What I think I loved most about his tenure at the brand was how he made the brand so playful, so light-hearted, so "fashion." I think that attitude really suited LV...it felt right in the sense that it is THE cliché luxury fashion brand - its place in pop-culture is so over the top and outrageous (i.e., fully monogrammed sports cars, Bling Ring robberies, logomania, rap lyrics, etc, etc). I think it worked so well with Marc because he understood how to incorporate that irony, cheekiness and humor into his collections.

Ghesquiere isn't working for me at LV because I don't think he has the stomach for the commercialism, ostentation and the pop culture that is, at this point, inseparable from the LV identity...it IS the LV identity. His designs are overly complicated and serious, very heavy duty. Everything's be makes is like a brick. He's serving you a terrible mixology cocktail when you'd really rather pop a bottle of champagne and let the foam spill everywhere. There's no wink, no chuckle, no sense of him acknowledging the ridiculousness of LV. Marc was so good at that.

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I was rewatching Marc Jacobs and Louis Vuitton today and it made me so sad to see what has become of this house. Marc really put a lot of work into his LV collections. There was so much artistry and meticulous details. It was a thought process. Even the bags were precious. In it's place is a cold commercialism. The Petite Malle was the only true innovative bag that NG has produced and even that is beginning to feel old. The bags under NG have become very masculine and aggressive. Where is the fantasy? I want NG to work, but he isn't a good fit for a house of this caliber. I only hope that the outcome of him not renewing his contract will result in the founding of his own brand.
I don't think that Marc put a lot of effort in his LV collections but he sure had a lot more fun. The process was very fast and focused... He had more money, more opportunities and less pressure in a way. Let's be honest, he was able to do whatever he wanted only because everytime he revisit the monogram, it was an instant hit!

The documentary is about the SS07 collection. FW06 was a smash hit. Pharrell did the sunglasses and Marc did the red leopard print that was everywhere (i still have the scarf and the dress actually) + the murakami thing was still selling and relevant.

I loved Marc clothes more than his bags. I've hated Vuitton bags for a long time. They were tacky for the most part and it wasn't until the Coppola collection that i started to pay attention to the bags. Suddenly, the bags were simpler and relied less on the monogram.

We sometimes forget the context of Vuitton hiring Nicolas and the context of Nicolas going to Vuitton.
Right before Jacobs left, they started to push that very bourgeois and boring bag "Capucines". They wanted a more fashion "real life" oriented vision for the house. Nicolas bags now are not "fashion bags" but real life bags. The RTW line while not being that fabulous is consistent when you go to the stores...

Nicolas also used to work with a lot of passion and effort at Balenciaga. He really didn't cared about the bags because the Lariat and all the bags after inspired by the line were selling. The clothes were fabulous and the collections were insane.

I sometimes miss Marc but for me it's a sign of times. We are in a different era. Fast fashion & social media is what define this era. The 2000's were the era of excess in fashion. Now more than ever, it's obvious that business is what rule fashion. It's only about selling. Nobody apart from us here seems to be interested in pushing fashion forward.
Just look at McQueen. They are profitable now...At a moment where they are mediocre in terms of creativity.

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