Maison Martin Margiela Mens F/W 08.09 Paris

[Zazie]

MMM is always something you wear to look fashion-forward without looking like a fashion victim. Looks like he's done it again!

[gius]

i like the wire ring..
might be dangerous though

thanks scott
i hope there are more

[margielamike2004]

Hmm...I'm trying to understand if this is Margiela's 0/10 artisinal collection..or his basic 10 collection for men. That barbed-wiire vest looks very artisinal???

I have heard from an amazing source (a shop owner who was one of the first boutiques to carry Margiela's first 10 collection...but they dropped the collection a few seasons later. For a long time, they didn't have the collection...but thankfully, they recently picked it up again. Anyway...the shop owner told me that after the Diesel buyout...the prices were raised much higher. I found that to be really ironic???...I mean, considering the Diesel Corp. wasn't suffering financially like Margiela once was when he was more independant, shouldn't the prices have gone down??...I mean..Diesel has the money to mass-produce Margiela's pieces. When Margiela was suffering, he didn't have the money to mass-produce..meaning, the pieces were more scarce and less available to the public. I'm completely lost about all this political stuff, now??

If anyone can help me to understand my situation....could someone please clarify???

[la carina]

im beyond obsessed with this man

[Scott]

mike,he has the two seperate collections. artisanal and 10. this one is just 10 and he shows his artisanal together during HC week with the women.

[Scott]

here we go

*catwalking.com

[Scott]

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[gius]

Originally Posted by margielamike2004

Hmm...I'm trying to understand if this is Margiela's 0/10 artisinal collection..or his basic 10 collection for men. That barbed-wiire vest looks very artisinal???

I have heard from an amazing source (a shop owner who was one of the first boutiques to carry Margiela's first 10 collection...but they dropped the collection a few seasons later. For a long time, they didn't have the collection...but thankfully, they recently picked it up again. Anyway...the shop owner told me that after the Diesel buyout...the prices were raised much higher. I found that to be really ironic???...I mean, considering the Diesel Corp. wasn't suffering financially like Margiela once was when he was more independant, shouldn't the prices have gone down??...I mean..Diesel has the money to mass-produce Margiela's pieces. When Margiela was suffering, he didn't have the money to mass-produce..meaning, the pieces were more scarce and less available to the public. I'm completely lost about all this political stuff, now??

If anyone can help me to understand my situation....could someone please clarify???

I can't answer any of your questions
but I agree with you on the barbed-wire vest --it does look artisanal

[margielamike2004]

Hahaha...thanks Scott!!...Yeah I know he has 2 seperate collections...I've been onto Mr. Margiela since 1989.

I once worked at a boutique here in Boston that carried Margiela during the time when Margiela did not have a men's collection. His men's collection started 10 years after his first collection for women...hence, the reason for the number 10.

I have TONS of Margiela pieces...lots of his very early pieces from his early collections...like the sock-sweater...the denim vest that's been coated in hot pink paint...the see-through tribal/tattoo shirt, etc. Lots of his "vintage" stuff, when his pieces were being produced by a company called "Miss Deana"...not The Diesel Corp.

As far as how this men's collection is being represented..with the photocopies of the pieces standing in front of the non-models (hahahah)..it "looks" very artisinal!!!

Thanks Scott...I know you're only trying to help me out...and I TOTALLY appreciate it!!!

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[Scott]

i want to wear ALL of this! *swoon* those coats are supreme,really.

mike,so what was your question exactly? sorry i must've misread initially.

[margielamike2004]

Ohhhh...this men's collection is REALLY turning me on, now...hahaha!!! That sweater/knit with the matching scarf looks sooooo plush!!!

I'm trying to understand how much involvement Mr. Margiela has had considering this collection. Margiela stepped away for a while...and the collection was left moreso in the hands of Sebastian Meunier (forgive me if I mis-speeled his name)...but this colection looks a bit more sub-versive and less commercial...it looks like Mr. Margiela's own concept of "fashion". I love it, regardless of "who's??" designing it now!!! YUMMERS!!!

[margielamike2004]

Oops..sorry for the mis-understanding, Scott!!

Basically, I just find it really weird that the prices for Margiela have gone up since the Diesel buyout. Diesel can mass-produce...so shouldn't the prices be lower???

I have plenty of Margiela's artisinal pieces...but most of them are not as labor-intensive as what his artisinal collection is now. I have mostly t-shirts that have been silk-screened...t-shirts that have had the logo on the front removed, and re-paneled like a huge patch...very early artisianl pieces. His artisinal collection is now REALLY expensive...and a lot more conceptualized that when he first began the artisinal collection. I wish I had the money to afford (his now) artisinal pieces....like that "travel-jacket" that was reworked from luggage...OH MY!!!

[Scott]

and you know,that porn-star style aura has moved away as well. and sebastien when designing his own collection always had that combination of sleaze-ball and margiela. one would only hope that he is involved. it's obvious this is more in vein to what he was doing four or five years ago in his men's and what he's been doing in his artisanal.