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Let's just focus about how gorgeous the Kirkwood shoes are:p





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aren't those SO EFFFING HOT!!! ugh!!!! i died when i saw these shots!

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we experience a bit of a disconnect because i don't associate those looks with their "earlier" collections as if they've designed for many many years. they're just starting out. the looks i posted weren't from 1995, but from 2007. i don't know of a single person -- in their real life -- who has completely changed the way they get dressed day-to-day in two years so i think it's sort of unrealistic for us to expect that radical of a change in four or five seasons. for many of us, we believe in the incremental change of design that comes in the beautiful changes in detail. (and if you look in other creative industries, you don't see RADICAL changes coming from the same artists each year: coldplay doesn't release a heavy metal album and then a smooth jazz album and then a disco album).

also, it's not like they've done another collection of nothing but cob-webby knits. they've moved forward again. and i still like those cob-webby knits because they still sell! and they used different things than they did last season: they could've stuck with some of the leathers as we all know that's a cash cow, but they didn't!

finally, we have to allow for the role of economics in this discussion: money fuels creativity. the reason some designers have the leeway to experiment with all manner of technique and textile comes in the fact that they're given more money -- by their investors or the houses that serve as their benefactors -- to produce their collections. it's a little more personal when you consider that if these girls fail, they don't necessarily get another shot. sure theyskens can experiement at rochas because if they don't like what he's doing, it's just a job not his own personal line.
well if you want to be technical, what happened with the radical change from fall 2007 to that of ss08 with the cobwebby knits. they went from overtly femme to grunge warrior in a season so i wouldnt call their evolution incremental at all.

the fact is that there hasnt be substantial change since their first season experimenting with this *look* (which was the best). all that has changed is maybe the fabrics or the mood. it's not interesting anymore.

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can we just clear up that i (along with many others) dont think they are not talented, it's just they arent excelling and using their talent to its fullest.

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Those shoes are insanely dark and evil looking, like something a baddy from the Lord Of The Rings films would have worn. Ha. I love them.

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oh my, the shoes are insane! i like them.

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a lot of cutouts and fringes.

the spider web effect that's put onto the model's head is beautiful. and the tattoos put the clothes in a different perspective.

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I'm getting a F/W vibe then S/S, which is pretty dissapointing, and I feel like they're doing the same thing over and over lately. Just because you get a good review on one show doesn't mean you should reproduce the same collection over and over. Overall, very underwhelming.

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I don't get Rodarte and I doubt I ever will; unless their aesthetic changes dramatically.

It just looks like rags and/or yarn stapled randomly together, to me.

It's not exactly ugly and in fact, it can be quite pretty, but it just doesn't feel sufficiently real.


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lol, looks like there's a difference of opinion. some people like "pretty" clothes and some people appreciate the beauty of a concept and workmanship that is at the heart of Rodarte. although I love wearable clothes, it gets very boring a lot of the times, especially with this season. I appreciate rodarte's freshness and vision.

With respect, I think this is a rather arrogant attitude, TBH - just because someone doesn't appreciate rags and yarns wrought into a piece of 'clothing' (however skillfully, in your opinion) doesn't have to mean they only like "pretty" clothes, does it?

Anyway, I think Rodarte collections are often pretty, so you'd think, if prettiness was the issue here, the member you are referring to would like them?


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im sorry wasnt THIS done already? say last season? when everyone adored it , me included? same thing but diff. color scheme - thats what i c.
Agree. They seem to keep repeating the same silhouettes. I used to think they were genius but i hope they start exploring newer territories.


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Zazie, your posts have been amazing throughout...

The atmosphere and the tribal tattoos were definitely used to detract from the repetitive nature of the works. If the Mulleavy's were pushing a look that wasn't as arresting as this collage aesthetic, people would have been fed up a long time ago. The fact that this aesthetic is so 'of the moment' but still very personal and sincere in terms of detail and rawness, means the Mulleavy's will get a pass for many seasons to come. I can literally hear the fear circling in their minds in regards to the idea of progressing. One wrong move can send all the 'right' people in the opposite direction. I feel that they've lost their desire to grow and mature as designers. In my mind, 'progressing' is not one in the same with stripping one of their identity and personal truths. It's more or less expanding upon a thought and giving it the strength to grow while still staying true to what is at the core - their passions and beliefs.

It is very hard to be subjective when an aesthetic appeals greatly to your own ideals of beauty, but it is necessary to do so in order to avoid banality and stagnation. Looking at other young talents like Helena Horstedt and Sandra Backlund, for instance, who like the Mulleavy sisters have very distinct aesthetics/ideals, but they still somehow manage to progress, refine, and build upon those very ideals. All while making them even more prolific and inspired than they were the first time around. And with less media-exposure, too.

Media-exposure is not a bad thing. It's great actually, but it must not dictate your actions or the course of the work. I feel that that is the case here but it is understandable in times like these.

Wow.. you really described their psyche, and I can understand how the pressure of the acclaim and success can bring about circling fear and paralysis. And their desire to please their fans and the press would likely result in their staying with the same methods, for all the looks in every collection, why ruin a good thing? Otoh, we won't find out in the near future what they're really about, a one-trick pony as mentioned by ultramarine, or a dark horse. Trapped in their own success...

I mentioned Kane as the other designer who doesn't feel "authentic", and poor guy, he tried *not* to repeat his most popular methods and the depth (or lack thereof) of his design talent is showing. It would have been much better for Kane to have delivered another over-embellished "best of" collection or some other "it" prints and of course lots of studs, rivets, zips and all manners of hardware. Rodarte may be more savvy in going about this after all.

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'Trapped in their own success' is the best way to put. Construct issues aside, I do think the Mulleavy sisters are great designers. They have ideas and seem to truly view fashion from an aesthetic pt. of view rather than one of monetary gain alone. Unfortunately, they haven't quite learned how to focus or refine these ideas. It's very all or nothing with them, which, in turn, adds to the personal/raw nature of their work.

I'm hoping they will pull themselves out of this rut and still manage to keep the acclaim/glory, etc. You can certainly have both. Rei is a good example of this.

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i just died.

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Those shoes are a weapon! They look like they came straight out of a sci-fi film.

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