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And I read in the Dutch Glamour and there was an interview with Haider and he said he wasn't interested in taking any house over.

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Indeed, Martin asked him but he refused

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^and that's because of the level of respect martin has garnered from peers,predecessors and fans alike.he's revered. much in the same way that yves saint laurent was,because of the things he innovated. i don't think anyone would feel comfortable...truly comfortable...filling the shoes of such a dynamic talent.

i look back and i don't think anybody has brought to fore the things martin has. the recycling aspects when it wasn't 'hip' way back in the early 90's...the use of unexpected and sometimes mundane material. not to mention the balance he was able express...the quality...the construction....

it'll be interesting to see how this develops. i just hope martin stays in design in some capacity because we need his creativity and his irreverence.

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^and that's because of the level of respect martin has garnered from peers,predecessors and fans alike.he's revered. much in the same way that yves saint laurent was,because of the things he innovated. i don't think anyone would feel comfortable...truly comfortable...filling the shoes of such a dynamic talent.

i look back and i don't think anybody has brought to fore the things martin has. the recycling aspects when it wasn't 'hip' way back in the early 90's...the use of unexpected and sometimes mundane material. not to mention the balance he was able express...the quality...the construction....

it'll be interesting to see how this develops. i just hope martin stays in design in some capacity because we need his creativity and his irreverence.
My bold prediction is that MMM will fail without MM.

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^i agree...been thinking that myself. i don't think anybody will continue to follow it now that he's gone. he's just got too many faithful,long-time clients and fans.

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Maybe he can return to a bigger house like Hermès, though it won't be the same as an eponymous label And seeing that Diesel owns all aspects of the company (furniture, jewellery line, ...) it will be hard to start in those branches, at least under his own name. But I'm hopeful he'll find his own niche again

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^that's what i hate most(apart from most everything really) about selling these lines...when you no longer own your label you no longer own your own name anymore. i dunno about hermès but i would love for him to continue doing his artisanal stuff.

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Yes I don't see him fitting at Hermès anymore because that company has evolved (read: commercialised) a lot also, but something in those lines (I mentioned it because he did work there, as you probably will know ). Not too big like say Dior, but a house with a rich tradition that doens't want to be too big. Can't think of one right now though

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That is the best replacement for MMM heard so far. Love Jurgi Persoons. Love love Haider so would be happy with that too. But Persoons!

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this is so sad bur on the other hand it was obvious of course that MM was no longer in charge, he maybe became "victim of his own success" as Helmut Lang once said.

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a team no matter how great they are, they will never create clothes with the same vision, spirit and energy that MM had. ex Helmut Lang

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in the words of Tina Fey

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I completely agree with the sentiments expressed in this thread by Zamb and Scott.

I haven't been a fan of the more recent MMM collections and perhaps MM's lack of involvement explains why.

I bought (and bought into) the brand because to me, MM was able to produce wearable pieces without compromising his vision. I found the approach and philosophy behind MMM to be intelligent and charming. At the end of the day he produced some great clothes that were enriched by genuine, sincere and original experimentation.

To me, Rosso's statement doesn't bode well for the future of MMM. What is left of MMM if it doesn't have its artistic integrity and a sense of innovation? I think MMM's core customer expects more that what was produced for S/S 2010. Ifeel like this will be similar to Helmut Lang, where the whole reason I was attracted to the brand was the designer and not simply the label.

At least the upcoming Rozzoli book will be a more fitting tribute to MM's legacy than Rosso was able to manage.

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I was at a friend's home last night, and they were watching "Saturday Night Live" on TV. At the end of show, I saw this guy who seemed like a co-host of the show (my friend told me he's a well-known movie star originally from Canada, something like that, anyway I have almost no knowledge about these celebrity stuff, so I have really no idea how famous he is) wearing a basic red-coloured dress shirt (maybe on top of a pair of blue jeans, just the most uninspiring way of getting dressed), when he turned around and with his back facing toward the camera, I noticed those four white stitches instantly.

I guess that really says something about MMM at this moment, it has become the wardrobe choice of a mainstream movie star when he/she going to SNL to promote himself/herself. That being said, I do still find interesting pieces (wearable with a small amount of twist) from MMM in the stores. Whether the runway shows are still inspiring, that's a different story.

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Very Funny, I sent a somewhat demanding e-mail to their press office asking if Margiela was still in the house just a couple of days ago...

The problem is that Margiela has built his appeal on using high concepts - and then translating them into purposeful, timely, and extremely chic clothes. Russo is grossly underestimating how much skill and how much of a singular vision that takes.

Despite that MMM has always been officially referred to as a "collective" it's no secret to anyone that Martin's own design direction was integral to their output. And let's say it weren't and that the team was perfectly capable of doing it on their own, they are taking direction from buyers and production lackeys at Diesel...there's a reason why some Margiela right now could easily be confused with Dsquared cast offs... not too hard to switch the labels around....


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