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This looks exacly like Rachel Zoe last winter colection
MTE.But I can´t deny this is a very beautiful collection.I liked it alot

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I can not belive I like it!!
My fav collection sofar

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the kate moss's of the world will eat. this. up.
but imo it's so dated...
i want to see someone wear this on the red carpet (because you know that's the next sl pr move)...
the collection is absolutely dated
exactly because it's a piece of cake for all the 'kates' out there,
highstreet and fast fashion is having a party

still on the long run...
this collection could be the begining of the end for the House
YSL no more
enjoy the Hedi Saint Laurent era

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This is quite possibly the biggest letdown I've ever experienced as far as designer debuts. There's nothing, NOTHING about this that's remotely interesting, or exciting, or distinct quite frankly. It's Saint Laurent by the books, and honestly I was expecting not only more, but very different from Slimane. Save for the tailoring, which is nice if a little unremarkable, there's nothing about this that says Slimane at all. It's all styling, an upscale Rachel Zoe collection.

Someone else said it but there's very little in the way of actual design here.
Couldn't of said it better myself.

I feel the hype overshadowed his debut, the house should have stayed immaculately silent and threw everything at us all at once, with the re-branding, the whole 'new concept' for the brand.

I think Hedi was also trying to stay in safe grounds, trying to please the 'master' so to speak, and that master would be Pierre Bergé who was front row, the concept of the show was very outdated for the period of time we're in at the moment, had this been executed a few seasons back it would have been acceptable but at the moment in the minimalism design is in at the moment with architecture, fashion, technology and so forth it doesn't really reflect the times we're in.

I feel Hedi was possibly looking at all of the 70's icons/bad girls such as Anita, Marianne & Britt, which in retrospect is quite fascinating, but the execution was not.

The frills and the color palette sticks in my throat the most, I was expecting something monochrome, masculine/feminine, Michael Jackson/You Rock My World etc...

I don't like when people have to go into the past in terms of previous designers, but I still don't understand why they replaced Stefano when he was doing a pretty stellar job at Saint Laurent, in my opinion anyway, his collections were successful in sales and editorially, his accessories were best sellers around the world and pretty iconic and he earned a great deal of profit for the brand with collection after collection being a hit, the collections had vision from the beginning but still retained the Saint Laurent identity, but he didn't murder the concept from the beginning, he referenced it subtly... Hedi took the concept of Saint Laurent too literally.

I have to say I am pretty let down by his womenswear debut, he should of stuck to designing menswear.

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I second that. I seriously can't imagine my mom wearing Slimane
my mom will love those long monochrome caftan dresses

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Apparently, Slimane paid homage to Betty Catroux.

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I don't think this collection is as bad as some people are making it out to be, but I don't think it's that great either. I think it's an average collection by a designer who likes to play with hype. I've always thought that Pilati was amazing for YSL, and this collection hasn't really changed my mind at all.

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I for once think most of this collection is pretty suitable for all ages. The jackets, pants, shirts, accessories and most of the dresses will look good in both mother and daughter.

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Apparently, Slimane paid homage to Betty Catroux.
Yes, she was amongst the star studded front row.

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Apparently, Slimane paid homage to Betty Catroux.
yep, and dedicated the show to Pierre Bergè.

they were both front row

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as i was looking at this collection on style i was thinking to myself
"i know the people on TFS are tearing this a new one..."
and of course i was right lol. this is soooooo boring. i feel like all black for spring is extremely blah. If all the classic YSL pieces made a comeback did slimane actually design anything?? maybe he didnt...maybe they had this collection brewing while they negotiated his contract and so fourth.

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If Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen never would have never started the Row this would have been something I would have expected from them.

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Apparently, Slimane paid homage to Betty Catroux.
Even Tom Ford did a better homage to Betty back in 2001 which speaks volumes imo.

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#fact, two fails in one week, it was fun #not

*thank you all people for those great posts
it's the perfect insight for an article i'm preparing right now
Thank you for great posts that make the thread buzz with opinions...

It's rare to see the fashion industry looking a little ridiculous, such as this moment.

But yes, I do worry about the sales, the factories, the jobs, too...

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Great points
*horrible re-branding
*bad execution
*Stefano is a much better designer , but the fact is the collection was not selling as well as the shareholders were expecting
they thought they had to water down
so they watered down with an over estimated hyped 'designer'

*if i was Stefano Pilati i would be buying people drinks tonight
I am already drinking on his behalf here . But in all seriousness, I still feel bad that Stefano left but I think his new position at Zegna is more exciting (no Pierre Berge bothering him). The funny thing is that Stefano produced YSL's best result in almost 16 years just before he left.

This collection will sell because it will be marketed by Hollywood celebrities [which Stefano was not really keen on except for the occasions where he dressed Kate Winslet and Kathryn Bigelow (which were stellar BTW)] so I don't think the share holders will have any problem with this. The problem now is that YSL (Saint Laurent) will just be one of these over hyped brands with a star designer that wouldn't be special any more. That's what Stefano did for the house. The women who wore his clothes were on another level, a whole different league. I will really cherish my Pilati pieces forever!

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