[Baizilla]

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Originally Posted by tricotineacetat ...soooo, the only thing I´d love to know is, whom of you girls is actually wearing Rochas??

Yeah, great question.

I would like to ask the same question, not only about Rochas, but also Balenciaga & Chanel... generally those labels with high pricepoints..

because if you look at the "What are you wearing today?" thread.. you see a general pattern, that is; not a lot of the girls are wearing clothes from expensive labels (however they still look great, though ), whereas the guys are all wearing expensive designer labels from top to toe.. i'm talking C Diem/LMaltieri, DH, CCP, Raf Simons, all those belgian designers etc...

I've been wondering about this for quite a while.. only explanation i could think of is; the girls are more interested in the aesthetic point of view, "it is not about what you wear, but how you wear it"... while the guys are interested in the quality, thus the expensive clothes..

but maybe this belongs to another thread

[softgrey]

hopping on the 'how can you NOT love it?' train....
taking it all the way to the end of the line...


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[faust]

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Originally Posted by Baizilla Yeah, great question. I would like to ask the same question, not only about Rochas, but also Balenciaga & Chanel... generally those labels with high pricepoints.. because if you look at the "What are you wearing today?" thread.. you see a general pattern, that is; not a lot of the girls are wearing clothes from expensive labels (however they still look great, though ), whereas the guys are all wearing expensive designer labels from top to toe.. i'm talking C Diem/LMaltieri, DH, CCP, Raf Simons, all those belgian designers etc... I've been wondering about this for quite a while.. only explanation i could think of is; the girls are more interested in the aesthetic point of view, "it is not about what you wear, but how you wear it"... while the guys are interested in the quality, thus the expensive clothes.. but maybe this belongs to another thread

Actually, I think this is only a partial reason. Another big part of that reason is that in the US, unlike in Europe - you usually (not always) must pay through the nose to get beautiful, well-fitted menswear. Women can much faster get away with high street stuff, because they have so much more choice. It's a matter of the view of masculinity in the US - if you are a "real" man, you better be a careless slob.

[softgrey]

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Originally Posted by tricotineacetat ...soooo, the only thing I´d love to know is, whom of you girls is actually wearing Rochas??

guess who???...


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it's mostly eveningwear...
you wouldn't really wear it for day...so that is probably part of the issue...
you would probably only see people wear this stuff at particular events...

it's not usually the kind of thing you just wear out to dinner even...
it's quite stiff and formal really...

[andrew]

faust: Exactly. Most department stores I have been to cater to a 'beach/surfer dude' aesthetic, which I care very little for. My girlfriend finds it much easier to get interesting, non 'surfer' clothing at a reasonable price.

And plus, how can you not be astounded by this:

style.com

[chicgarcon]

First off....Hate rochas by olivier?!

...I can understand these hate/likes with other designers who get a tad-bit silly. But Olivier Theyskens??

Second, on who wears him...I know a few women who own a gown or two, but i sometimes think his clientele is a much more mature/older woman. Rather than his ideal shown on the runway. personal opinion ofcourse.

Balenciaga is limited, if any (that can be found in decent shape/size) pieces for boys..so I cant vouch for that. Unless you're talking about bags, then I can

Chanel? hah... who doesnt own anything chanel these days.

[Baizilla]

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Originally Posted by faust It's a matter of the view of masculinity in the US - if you are a "real" man, you better be a careless slob.

This is a very sad perception of how a 'real' man should be.

[fashionista-ta]

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Originally Posted by softgrey guess who???... ... it's mostly eveningwear... you wouldn't really wear it for day...so that is probably part of the issue... you would probably only see people wear this stuff at particular events... it's not usually the kind of thing you just wear out to dinner even... it's quite stiff and formal really...

That seems to have changed though with this most recent collection ... lots of pants, short skirts, and even *shorts* ... I think the line is becoming more wearable ...

Anna Wintour had ... oh dear, what is her name, the socialite who has an occasional column in Vogue ... it's on the tip of my tongue ... test drive one of the stiffer gowns from last fall, and the feedback wasn't great. Apparently it felt as stiff as it looked. Perhaps he took this to heart ...

Also, Oliviers has a bit of a poignant personal story, another reason to love not hate

[softgrey]

marina rust?...


yes- it is the separates that i find most wearable in my lifestyle...

[fashionista-ta]

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Originally Posted by chicgarcon Chanel? hah... who doesnt own anything chanel these days.

Not me ... :p And I daresay a good percentage of the rest of the population. Everything I like from Chanel is always logoed out the wazoo, and there's nothing I dislike more than dangling initials that aren't mine ...

[fashionista-ta]

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Originally Posted by softgrey marina rust?...

Yup

[softgrey]

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Originally Posted by chicgarcon Second, on who wears him...I know a few women who own a gown or two, but i sometimes think his clientele is a much more mature/older woman. Rather than his ideal shown on the runway. personal opinion ofcourse.

this is true for most, if not ALL designers...

**the models are 15 yr old scarecrows...!!!...
of COURSE they are not the real customer...
of ANY designer collection...

-how many 15 yr olds do you know who can buy a $2000 dress...?
and even if they could...where would they wear it?...
and wouldn't they just look very foolish...
like a little girl playing 'dress up' in her mommy's closet.....???

these clothes are NOT for little girls...



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[MUXU]

i love his designs and the long dresses
makes the models look so tall and lean

but obviously i cant afford and no point of wearing a gown to school..(might get mustard on it >'_'<)

[augustus]

I remembered passing the windows of Barney's New York 2 years ago and saw this stunning Rochas dress; and I never got it out of my mind.
It was, simply, beautiful.

Rochas' price point is a bit high but to me the problem is that, none of them are extremely wearable for me and the selection I have is small. Granted, I own one outfit from Rochas but that's it. Balenciaga can be "fancy" but I can still pull it off, because I go to "dressy" places etc., but sighs, Rochas is different.

[tuomas]

Is there anyone else except Olivier and YSL, who have accomplished so much in their early 20s? The guy was hardly growing stubble when he created all that lovely gothic stuff for his own line. Another thing is that he has truly stayed honest to his vision, it would been so easy for him to sell out after the unfortunate death of his signature collection...but luckily Olivier's smart with his moves and now we have Rochas!