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17-12-2011
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P.S. I am not even that crazy about Lana but she is a young person and I am always happy to see youngsters doing something interesting and wish them all the success as long as they can handle it and won't end up destroying themselves like poor Amy did...

 
 
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^^ Here's a good article on her predicament.

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Back in August (forever, in Internet time), a U.K.-based American
singer named Lizzy Grant posted a video of her first single under the old-
Hollywood moniker, Lana Del Rey.

The track, Video Games, backed a moody visual montage of the sultry singer
alongside retro footage of palm-fronded L.A. boulevards and images of
sepia-toned summertime nostalgia.

It was a haunting lament of unrequited love and sexual rejection, Del Rey
cast as the forlorn beauty cruelly thrown over by an inattentive, off-screen
male. Think Liz Taylor in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, except in this case Marlon
Brando isn’t secretly gay; he’s just addicted to his Xbox.

Anyway, people liked it. Millions of page views have ensued, and the single
has charted across Europe. Del Rey’s first London show in November sold
out in under a half-hour.

Her small North American tour was expanded to a big North American tour,
and the next thing you know she was being featured in Vogue, Rolling Stone,
and on the cover of Britain’s Wonderland magazine (in see-through lace
pants).

Lucky for Del Rey, her backstory is as charming as her visage: Grew up in a
small town, left school at 18 to go to New York, wrote a lot of “little songs,”
gigged around with her guitar, struggled to makes ends meet. Ended up
living in a trailer park, drowning sorrows in a nearby motel’s whisky bar.
Eventually cobbled together a homemade video and ... Ka-Pow! A star was
born, fully formed, false eyelashes and all.

Sounds like just another flavour-of-the-month indie breakout, yes? Internet
street cred leads to premature online success, etc. Yes, Del Rey doesn’t
even have an album out yet (Born to Die is due out at the end of January)
but an artist going viral out of the gates is nothing new.

The difference in this case: While the world waits, and the hype builds, the
questions about her backstory have begun to mount, culminating in a
backlash that’s threatening to bring down the It Girl before she’s even had a
chance to “break” in the official sense.

Turns out that prior to becoming Lana, Lizzy had a “mainstream” EP out,
called Kill Kill, which has subsequently been disappeared from cyberspace
after she was scooped up by big-name label Interscope. This was followed
by a myriad of accusations (most of which spewed from the sweaty, envy-
stricken indie blogosphere) concerning Del Rey’s authenticity as an artist or
lack thereof.

She’s had her face reconstructed, said the haters, and she doesn’t write her
own songs. Her daddy’s rich and she never actually lived in a trailer park (a
2008 video interview you can dig up on YouTube would seem to refute this).

But the most damning accusations being levelled against her are artistic: that
she is a manufactured confection – prodded, packaged and preprogrammed
by a group of clever producers rather than being a self-determined artist
who invented her own look, style and songs.

It’s sort of quaint, more than a quarter of a century after the rise of
postmodernism, to hear earnest cries of “Sellout!” If the music is good, after
all, who really cares where it came from? Del Rey’s projection of artifice,
her swollen kisser and blank daisy eyes, can all be seen as part and parcel
of her performance – that of a mildly disturbed, sexually aroused live doll,
or as some commentators have described it, “Lolita in the hood.”

Daniel Nall, an independent music manager in London who is close to some
of the players behind the Del Rey project, said that hers was a case of an
indie artist getting “flipped and upstreamed from a minor to major label very
early on.” This, he explained, “resulted in a perception among the credible
music press that she was presenting herself as something she wasn’t.”

This early perception, he says, stands in stark contrast to more mainstream
artists, such as Adele, Katy Perry or even Lady Gaga, who have always been
packaged as big-label, rather than a “discovery” for indie-oriented fans to
find on their own. Nall thinks Del Rey’s got true star quality.

But some industry insiders, who’ve seen her live recently, disagree. “This
really is the prototype for Hype 2.0,” CBC Radio’s Jian Ghomeshi told me this
week by e-mail. After months of monitoring the buzz, Ghomeshi, who’s also
an active music manager and former artist/producer in addition to being a
radio host, checked out Del Rey’s live show at the Mod Club in Toronto last
week.

He left disappointed – both by her stage presence and her uneven vocals (a
sentiment echoed by many concert reviews posted on music sites). “The
important part about artifice is that there needs to be content beneath the
buzz,” was his verdict. “In this case, there is going to need to be much more
growth for that to happen.”

Just how can an artist find “room to grow” when she’s already selling out
major venues, wearing see-through lace pants on the cover of a magazine,
and enduring a full-scale backlash before her first album has even come
out? It’ll be interesting to find out.

In the meantime, says Ghomeshi, the delovely Miss Del Rey is only being
done a disservice by the premature hysteria that surrounds her. “It all
looks,” he says, “like the dark side of hype to me.”

If that doesn’t give the poor girl a good reason to pout, what does?
www.theglobeandmail.com

 
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I think most of the backlash is coming from the thing we can't discuss on tfs and her insisting it's real when there are pics that show the opposite. So people think if the image is manufactured then everything else has to be too, which is stupid.
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KissMiss I totally agree with you.
A lot of the hate also came from the fact that she was called an "indie" artist and signed with a major label. The "indie blogosphere," as the article above called, was very offended, which was just ridiculous. Who cares how she's labeled, open your mind, enjoy the music.

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I love Lana so much I haven't been impressed by a new musician recently as much as I have by her.. and I love the Born to Die video. I think it's really beautiful aesthetically.

I was watching an interview she did a couple of months ago and she was talking about where she got inspiration from and why she did certain things in her videos, specifically in Blue Jeans. The interviewer basically wanted her to explain what the "meaning" of all the clips were and her answer was that she just liked them and they appealed to her. I really like that about her, that everything doesn't have to have some deep meaning.

Anyway I wanted to post this, it's one of her best live performances that I've heard from her so far:



Also in case anyone was wondering she is wearing Antonio Berardi Spring 2011 in Born to Die

graziadaily


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^ Thanks you! I was wondering this whole time. It reminded me of Mugler's debut collection at first.

 
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Thanks, I was wondering too about the dress.
I love the Born To Die live performance for 98.7 fm. Simple and beautiful.

 
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Lana is going to perform on SNL! This girl is on the verge or stardom.
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Finally, the studio version of Off To The Races



Quote:
Originally Posted by widowsofculloden View Post
The interviewer basically wanted her to explain what the "meaning" of all the clips were and her answer was that she just liked them and they appealed to her. I really like that about her, that everything doesn't have to have some deep meaning.
That was exactly what I loved the most about that interview. Hate it when people over-intellectualize their own work.

ETA
Queen Of The Gas Station (from the Lana Del Ray AKA Lizzy Grant album)


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i think consumers have a right to be concerned about authenticity. they are buying a product.

after all, no one wants to buy the next equivalent of milli vanilli.

it is true that some recording artists create a fake backstory, usually this is done with a wink and a nod or they say something so silly/outrageous that the reporter or media shouldnt conceivably believe it. its OK when that happens.
but when someone is disingenuous just to sell records or is a rich person pretending to be poor, thats not OK to me. thats lame.

she may also have claimed that she has a criminal record.

She told the Sun: "I pray, but I've had to, as I've been in so much trouble."
When asked how she got into trouble, the singer replied: "Anything and everything you could ever f***ing imagine.
"If I told you, you wouldn't believe me, so I don't go there."


is it part of an attempt to create a "femme fatale" image? i'm not sure.

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Are people really concerned about authenticity or are they finding any reason they possibly could to dislike someone? Britney is one of the biggest pop star of our times and we all know she is anything but authentic. Do people care? No.

Same thing regarding Lady Gaga. One could argue she is anything but authentic, but people eat up everything she does. The mass certainly doesn't seem to be concerned about what they're buying as long as they like what they see and hear.

Using authenticity to justify dislike for an artist seems like an excuse to me. For someone like Lana, it's even more true when she has done little in the industry.

And who's to say she never got into any trouble? How can one dissect what she says are true or false? Automatically labeling it to be false when we know little about Lana pose more of a concern to me, quite frankly. It just goes to show how quickly people can judge someone without knowing anything.

At the end of they day, people who dislike her can dislike her. But to claim she is fake and inauthentic as if it is a matter-of-fact is disingenuous.


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shes problably the only artist that talks on youtube

 
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^ That's hilarious.

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Ives927, I disagree with you. For an artist, authenticity is essential. You're right about Britney Spears, and people don't complain about it because what she does is not art, it's pure entertainment most of the time. You can't put Lana Del Rey in the same league as Lady Gaga, Madonna, and all the others, they don't run the same business.

But then again, Lana Del Rey's music seems pretty authentic to me, and not commercial at all.

 
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^ How does does one separate entertainment and art? But that's not the point here.

And no, I was not comparing Lana's talent with any other artists'. I was only mentioning Brit and Gaga to make a point regarding authenticity.

I do think authenticity is important. My point was that people don't seem to be caring about what is manufactured and what is not today with artists that are popularized. They buy in to what they like by what they see and hear.

Taste is subjective. Quite frankly, I'm tired of people constantly being beaten down for their taste. What makes anyone better simply because their choice of music is different? It's all personal. That's all.
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