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23-06-2011
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This sounds like Alaia's being a bit bitter about Karl's superhuman working capacity and Anna's lack of attention to his work.
Karl employs a small country. No one really knows what he does. Napping in the office is OK in his age

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Well, I think he raises some fair points and I think his point with slamming both Wintour and Lagerfeld is that he isn't fond of the culture they have created around both being a designer and Vogue editor.
Karl is a designer who very much lives this world of Chanel, he juices it for all it's worth really and I think what Alaia is trying to say that people might have lost what it means to be a designer and that is designing , not being in your own short films, throwing great parties, and launching a fragrance. I can understand why Alaia feels that way because he obviously works in a very different way. And I think that's ok - as long as Alaia said other young hopefuls don't think it will work in the same way for them.

As for Wintour, I'm not sure I totally agree with him though again he has a point. She's an icon of Vogue for this age but she's known for being a great business woman and her cold-hearted personality. I think she will be remembered because she did change the way American Vogue works however I think he is right when he says that you don't think of fashion when you think of Anna - it's all business.

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When I see how she is dressed, I don’t believe in her tastes one second.
Finally someone said it out loud. God bless Alaia.

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I quite agree about Anna's Style.

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She will only be remembered as a b*tch - a person so mean that en entire movie was dedicated to her being insufferable and rude.
and how, exactly, do you think people remember diana vreeland? she had her maids IRON her money before they put it in her wallet.

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I quite agree about Anna's Style.
because diana vreeland was such a fashion plate during her time?!? let's get serious here.



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^Isn't that the point though? Vreeland is remembered for her work, Anna is remembered for being a b*tch. Because, let's face it, Vogue US is not relevant fashion-wise. It's a business first and foremost.

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Miranda Priestly may have helped Anna's image...Miranda had style.

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while his point about karl remains well-taken, he's really pointing out his own limitations and the limitations of most designers. karl lagerfeld remains a near genius because he can dabble in so many things and still pull it off quite spectacularly. in a year, azzedine may put out forty or fifty truly mind-blowing dresses and karl may put out forty or fifty mind-blowing dresses, but the difference remains that karl has also put out three books, sixteen collections, opened a couple of stores, released some new fragrances and beauty products, thrown six great parties, decorated a new home, photographed for several magazines, and probably earned tens upon tens of millions of dollars (in one year) while making those forty to fifty great dresses. so, yes, true, for a young designer, focus on making the forty to fifty great dresses because not everyone can be karl. and that's why karl is karl.

unfortunately, his criticism of anna wintour may show his age a bit. anna wintour will get venerated in very much the same sense as diana vreeland once did. the stories about her REMAIN legend and while he may not LIKE the point of view of american vogue (as so many don't), there's no denying that it HAS ONE.
But how is it a limitation that you're not a "multi-talented artist" in whichever field you work in? It's like saying a singer is a limited artist because she/he doesn't dabble in acting and modelling as well.

But on the flip side, I don't think there's anything particularly wrong either in trying to do other things when you are presented with the opportunity and Azzedine does admit that Karl is good at what he does.

I see his criticism for Anna in the same way. She's more business than fashion. He sees it as a bad thing, but I'm certain Condť Nast disagrees.

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I don't agree with his comment about Karl. I don't think he understands that Karl actually enjoys doing all of this other stuff. Why not design a Coke bottle when you're obsessed with the product yourself? If it's fun and promotes your business/persona, why not do it? I don't think there can ever be too much caricature in fashion, actually. If designing pretty dresses was all it took to become a big fashion business and brand it would get really boring. We love and need all the drama that comes with personalities like Karl, Galliano, etc.


I agree pretty much with what he said about Anna, though. It's quite puzzling she's considered the most important woman in fashion when she dresses so badly and is really more a businesswoman than a fashion icon.

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At the end of the day business and money are the most important. Anna's style is a personal opinion, I love her style its great

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Seems like once you get designer Azzedine Alaia talking, he won't stop...which is not to say we're not enjoying it. Earlier this week, he revealed that Dior offered him the top spot at the fashion house after John Galliano's dismissal and he previously decried the industry's pressures, calling the deadlines "inhumane."
And now making the rounds: an interview from Virgine in which he bashes both Karl Lagerfeld and Anna Wintour. Two for one!


How do you feel about Karl Lagerfeld? I donít like his fashion, his spirit, his attitude. Itís too much caricature. Karl Lagerfeld never touched a pair of scissors in his life. That doesnít mean that heís not great, but heís part of another system. He has capacity. One day he does photography, the next he does advertisements for Coca-Cola. I would rather die than see my face in a car advertisement. We donít do the same work. And I think that he is not doing a favor to young stylists who might think it works that way. Theyíre going to fall before they retire.
You have some problems with Anna Wintour?
I said it before. She runs the business (Vogue) very well, but not the fashion part. When I see how she is dressed, I donít believe in her tastes one second. I can say it loudly! She hasnít photographed my work in years even if I am a best seller in the U.S. and I have 140 square meters at Barneys. American women love me; I donít need her support at all. Anna Wintour doesnít deal with pictures; she is just doing PR and business, and she scares everybody. But when she sees me, she is the scared one. [Laughs.] Other people think like me, but donít say it because they are afraid that Vogue wonít photograph them. Anyway, who will remember Anna Wintour in the history of fashion? No one. Take Diana Vreeland, she is remembered because she was so chic. What she did with the magazine was great, with Avedon and all the great photographers. Vogueremains while its fashion editors come and go.


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But how is it a limitation that you're not a "multi-talented artist" in whichever field you work in? It's like saying a singer is a limited artist because she/he doesn't dabble in acting and modelling as well.

But on the flip side, I don't think there's anything particularly wrong either in trying to do other things when you are presented with the opportunity and Azzedine does admit that Karl is good at what he does.

I see his criticism for Anna in the same way. She's more business than fashion. He sees it as a bad thing, but I'm certain Condť Nast disagrees.
there's nothing wrong with limitations. i'm not making a judgement. azzedine alaia remains one of the most brilliant dressmakers of our time. that he doesn't also excel in photography does not take away from that fact.

with regard to anna wintour, the world has changed. it's rosy to look on the current fashion system and remark how it's so different from the bygone era BUT those who work in the fashion industry and its auxiliaries really don't have the luxury to view the world through the tinted lens with which azzedine views it. the business of fashion or publishing or advertising or any other thing does not remain a side concern of those actively working in the business, it's an everyday, pressing, and urgent one. bad decisions mean the end of a house, the shuttering of a magazine, or the failure of a campaign.

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^Isn't that the point though? Vreeland is remembered for her work, Anna is remembered for being a b*tch. Because, let's face it, Vogue US is not relevant fashion-wise. It's a business first and foremost.
anna wintour did not get profiled by the new york times or sit down with charlie rose because of her fashion choice or because some view her as a prickly personality. anna wintour has made american vogue a force not only in the world of fashion but within the larger world of business, the city of new york, and so many others.

it's laughable to try to contend that american vogue remains irrelevant in the world of fashion. just because one might not like the things anna wintour has done with vogue magazine does not mean she has not done anything of relevance. the young designers who receive CFDA awards would argue differently. the fashion houses who have benefited from fashion's night out would argue differently.

azzedine alaia would not have such a chip on his shoulder if vogue remained irrelevant. we don't see him badmouthing other fashion rags that overlook his work in the same fashion. does he castigate glenda or robbie with the same vehemence? there's a reason for that.

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