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27-03-2011
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Honestly, if he does do something even worse, he'll probably get away with that, too. I really hope he won't, I hope that he will get sent to prison, but I have no faith that it will happen. Look at how many abusive *******s there are in Hollywood and the music business just walking around free. Robert Blake killed his wife and got away with it.

He will forever be surrounded by enablers. It's the nature of celebrity. Even if his friends/family were to ever say, "You did it, now deal with the consequences," he'd still have the support of fans (and a culture that shrugs its shoulders and says, "Eh, domestic abuse, whatever,") who think it's not that big a deal that he beat his girlfriend. And as long as he has money, he can buy new friends and lawyers that reinforce his behavior and tell him what he wants to hear.

Ideally, his bottom would have been some sort of serious punishment after he beat his girlfriend to a pulp instead of just a slap on the wrist. The forced anger management classes were a joke. Not that I think he doesn't need them, because he clearly does, but you can't make someone accept help like that if they don't want it.

Every time I think about this it squicks me out. I can't believe he's not even sorry, like he still thinks she deserved it or something. Ugh.

 
 
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I'm not making excuses for him. What he did was wrong and inexcusable. It was terrible and sick.
No one should abuse another person regardless of the situation.
I think it's wrong for a man to hit a woman and vice versa. Period.

But I believe everyone deserves a second chance.
He has apologized on numerous occasions and I do agree, he could have done a better job of showing it in the GMA interview.
He does kind of brush it off and that's very disturbing.

However, it happened 2 years ago and Rihanna's moved on. I think it's fair that people allow him to do the same.

This is clearly a sensitive subject, but I just don't think it's right to just label someone a bad person for one mistake that they made...even if that mistake was domestic violence.

And as Chris pointed out, people sure don't seem to have much of a problem celebs like Charlie Sheen and numerous other celebrities who have also made huge, idiotic mistakes.
You made excuses for him the moment you said he was very young and within the public-eye.

If he was just a regular guy, people would be spitting him out and that's what disturbing to me.
And clearly he hasn't moved on from his anger issues after he started ripping his shirt and slamming a window. Douchebag remains a douchebag.

 
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When I said he was young, I wasn't using that as an excuse.
What I meant was that he's young and therefore it would be wrong to just label him as a screw up for life and not give him the chance to rectify those mistakes.

His age does not excuse what he did in any way even 5 year olds know it's wrong to violently attack someone.

But I don't think he's gotten away with anything. He got probation and community service.
I've known people personally whose spouses hit them and the law enforcement does nothing, but throw them in jail for one night.

And I already know this is going to annoy people...but we never heard the whole story about why this happened.
This seemingly perfect, young couple was fine one second and then all of sudden something like this happens.
Plus, Chris was pretty much MIA after this event, so for all we know she could have beat him up too. Rihanna strikes me as the type who fights back.
They could have been physically fighting each other. Does that make it right? No.
But I think that's one of the reasons his punishment wasn't so severe, I think the judge heard the "whole" story and if I'm not mistaken...
they were both ordered to stay away from each other.
The restraining order just wasn't to keep him from her, but also to keep her from him.

 
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^ I don't believe you have that correct. What happened recently was that the restraining order against him was modified so that it would be easier for them to attend the same industry events. There was no discussion of a restraining order against her. And ... I bet that modification wouldn't happen now.

I see that you like to stir the pot ... no point in responding to the viewpoint of someone who clearly doesn't get it when it comes to domestic violence.

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When I said he was young, I wasn't using that as an excuse.
What I meant was that he's young and therefore it would be wrong to just label him as a screw up for life and not give him the chance to rectify those mistakes.

His age does not excuse what he did in any way even 5 year olds know it's wrong to violently attack someone.

But I don't think he's gotten away with anything. He got probation and community service.
I've known people personally whose spouses hit them and the law enforcement does nothing, but throw them in jail for one night.

And I already know this is going to annoy people...but we never heard the whole story about why this happened.
This seemingly perfect, young couple was fine one second and then all of sudden something like this happens.
Plus, Chris was pretty much MIA after this event, so for all we know she could have beat him up too. Rihanna strikes me as the type who fights back.
They could have been physically fighting each other. Does that make it right? No.
But I think that's one of the reasons his punishment wasn't so severe, I think the judge heard the "whole" story and if I'm not mistaken...
they were both ordered to stay away from each other.
The restraining order just wasn't to keep him from her, but also to keep her from him.
You are mistaken.

The restraining order states that he can't go within 100 yards of Rihanna for five years, which was later reduced after he had spent a year in domestic violence therapy and anger management classes.

Rihanna has no such order against her.

 
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Wow he spent a year in domestic violence therapy and anger management classes yet he's still like this......

 
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.but we never heard the whole story about why this happened.
Once upon a time, a violent *sshole beat in a young woman's face in, and everyone in the world saw the pictures which show irrefutable evidence of the incident. The end. Now you know the whole story. There's absolutely nothing else that we need to know. Because no matter what Rihanna did, nothing justifies what CB did to her.


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When I said he was young, I wasn't using that as an excuse.
What I meant was that he's young and therefore it would be wrong to just label him as a screw up for life and not give him the chance to rectify those mistakes.

His age does not excuse what he did in any way even 5 year olds know it's wrong to violently attack someone.
No one has labeled him a screw up for the rest of his life. They have, however, labeled him a Very Bad Person for the present because he is a man (not a little boy, a man) who beat his girlfriend and shows not one ounce of recognition that beating people is not a proper reaction to... anything, really.

If he were to one day wake up and apologize (for real this time) and maybe donate some money to a shelter and take even small steps to show that he is sorry, instead of constantly whining about how oppressed he is and how it's his girlfriend's fault that she walked into his fists, then people might believe that he is a different person. Right now, he's just the same douchebag that beat his partner that he was two years ago, but with some probation under his belt.

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But I don't think he's gotten away with anything. He got probation and community service.
Just to be clear... he beat his girlfriend. He bit her and used his fists to pound her face in... and you think he didn't get away with it because he got probation? Okay then.

 
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You are mistaken.

The restraining order states that he can't go within 100 yards of Rihanna for five years, which was later reduced after he had spent a year in domestic violence therapy and anger management classes.

Rihanna has no such order against her.

Depends on the nature of the order. Domestic Violence Orders and/or Emergency Protection Orders generally enjoin both parties from contacting each other with equal consequences for violations. This varies by state of course.

 
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And I already know this is going to annoy people...but we never heard the whole story about why this happened.
This seemingly perfect, young couple was fine one second and then all of sudden something like this happens.
Plus, Chris was pretty much MIA after this event, so for all we know she could have beat him up too. Rihanna strikes me as the type who fights back.
They could have been physically fighting each other. Does that make it right? No.
But I think that's one of the reasons his punishment wasn't so severe, I think the judge heard the "whole" story and if I'm not mistaken...
they were both ordered to stay away from each other.
The restraining order just wasn't to keep him from her, but also to keep her from him.
These are the same excuses his fans use very single time. She must have done something to provoke him etc etc. Like that makes it any better. To "fight back", don't you have to be hit in the 1st place?! While I understand what you are trying to say, you must not forget that he is physically stronger than her. This wasn't just a couple of slaps - he actually beat her, bit her and threatened to kill her. And didn't he leave her at the scene of the crime - he just ran away!! His sentence was lenient because 1. he pleaded guilty so that he cod avoid jail. & 2. He is a celebrity.

I think the problem everyone has is that he doesn't seem to have shown any REAL remorse or growth. He just seems to act blasé about it all. He only seems to show any emotion when it becomes an inconvenience e.g to his career. And that emotion is usually anger. The fact that he always refers to the assault as an "incident" etc. and on GMA said something like "the incident doesn't bother him anymore". As we, the public, can only really go by what he says and shows us - behaviour and comments like that don't make his plight to be "forgiven" any easier.
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Isn't that the excuse women use for their abusive husbands? She must've provoked him to do such a thing for him to behave like that. smh.

 
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Wow he spent a year in domestic violence therapy and anger management classes yet he's still like this......
sad to say but he's got a serious problem, much like an alcoholic, "s" offenders, heroine addicts and the like. it's in him and no matter how much therapy he gets it's just the way he is.


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Isn't that the excuse women use for their abusive husbands? She must've provoked him to do such a thing for him to behave like that. smh

it looks like the more one asks him a question he doesn't like , like GMA's Robin Roberts, he gets a major temper. i bet you Rihanna asks me a question about cheating , and we all know what that result ended up in. this kid's got a major problem. no doctors or medicine can help his @ss! he's a hopeless case and he's only 21? I dont want to know his future.

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