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Damage control! So Meryl's team are calling Karl a liar to his face, which is brazen. Because Bridget's source isn't some Chanel PR exec, it's actually Karl. And WWD isn't PageSix either. I'm interested to see how this pans out.

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Wow, what a mess already.

If the story is true, I'm absolutely on team Karl. And frankly I don't see why he would make a press release stating something absolutely false. However, speaking of class, I don't think the bitterness the statement conveys (not necessarily calling her out per se) is very classy.

I still can't believe Meryl and her team would behave like this. Putting the relationship to one of the most important fashion houses at risk, just for a little money that won't even make much of a difference on Meryl's yearly paycheck? It's beyond me why she would do this, let alone her stylist who has worked with Chanel before and surely doesn't want to be at war with the house.
Maybe a misunderstanding of some sort?


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Eh... I find WAY more believable that Karl is being drama queen than Meryl freaking Streep of all people wanting money to wear a dress. Sorry but I just don't buy it. For me, they were indeed in talks to work on the dress, but Meryl and her stylist decided to go for another option (which sure it sucks for Chanel but i'm sure that happens a lot in the red carpet game), and Karl got bitter and decided to retaliate by bad mouthing her to the press and "embellishing" the situation.

Wouldn't pass the fact that they had adapt the dress for a, uhm, real woman body contributed to his anger too.

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I don't think Karl would lie like that. Propably Meryl's team is doing damage control. And money are always money, no matter how many you have you always want more and if they pay them well and they offer a good dress why not? Also don't forget that ok Meryl may not be in desperate need of money but the stylist propably also getting paid and she may want them more!

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It's going to be juicy. Karl will say something sooner or later.
This can be a misunderstanding between Meryl's team and the Chanel team. I highly doubt that someone talked to Karl personally.
And, i also doubt that Karl had a special interview with Foley just to talk about that...This must have been mentionned in a random conversation about the oscars and everything. The whole thing feels like a random discussion...

This type of things happens sometimes but i can understand why Karl was upset about it. Nathalie Portman many years ago choose to wear Rodarte instead of Chanel at the last minute but Karl did not talk about it. It's not a question of being bitter about someone not wearing his creation...I don't think he cares. He can dress who ever he wants. Janelle Monae will probably wear Chanel...


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Wouldn't pass the fact that they had adapt the dress for a, uhm, real woman body contributed to his anger too.
Most of the couture clients are not model size at all. So changing a design is nothing new for Karl.
Princess Caroline is a "real woman" (i don't know what that means) and she always wears Haute Couture. The same for SHeikha Mozah or Mouna Ayoub...


On a side note: If i was Meryl, i would have kept the dress. A free Chanel Couture dress?
I hope she will keep the dress even if she doesn't wear it for the Oscars


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I highly doubt that someone talked to Karl personally.
And, i also doubt that Karl had a special interview with Foley just to talk about that...This must have been mentionned in a random conversation about the oscars and everything. The whole thing feels like a random discussion...

On a side note: If i was Meryl, i would have kept the dress. A free Chanel Couture dress?
I hope she will keep the dress even if she doesn't wear it for the Oscars
Again, this is WWD, not some gossip rag like PageSix. Do you know the stature of this publication? They would rather sit for days on a story and get the go-ahead from the source, instead of pushing ahead and publish at will. A slight like this could tarnish their relationship with the Wertheimers, which has been growing strong since the Fairchild years. Why risk all that for few random clicks? Add to that the fact that Karl is directly quoted here (not 'sources close to him'). So I believe he said this.

Meryl may well keep the dress, and perhaps even wear it to another event just to pacify Karl. And Micaela would want to make things right with Chanel, because her reputation and the rest of her clients clothing supply is in jeopardy because of this.

I think it's time for the fashion industry to tighten the reins when it comes to celebrities! Yes, maybe it is sour grapes on Karl's behalf, but at what stage did they tell him 'no'. The moment a dress in the atelier, it should be done. Plus it's free. I'm sure not even the richest customer would pull such a move.

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Maybe i wasn't really clear when i said "random discussion".
I know Karl said that but what i meant is that he may have talked about it when discussing with Bridget Foley while maybe talking about the Fendi show. I meant that the purpose of the interview may have not been just about the Meryl S thing.
He said that, she reported it and maybe asked if she can report it....But i don't think he called WWD to have an interview about Meryl S..

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Wow, what a mess already.

If the story is true, I'm absolutely on team Karl. And frankly I don't see why he would make a press release stating something absolutely false. However, speaking of class, I don't think the bitterness the statement conveys (not necessarily calling her out per se) is very classy.

[B]I still can't believe Meryl and her team would behave like this. Putting the relationship to one of the most important fashion houses at risk, just for a little money that won't even make much of a difference on Meryl's yearly paycheck? It's beyond me why she would do this, let alone her stylist who has worked with Chanel before and surely doesn't want to be at war with the house.
Maybe a misunderstanding of some sort?
Same could be said of the other side.

I still can't believe Karl and his team would behave like this. Putting the relationship to one of the most important actresses at risk, just for a little money that won't even make much of a difference on Chanel's yearly paycheck? It's beyond me why they would do this, let alone the designer who has worked with Meryl before and surely doesn't want to be at war with the actress.

Karl was the one who threw a fit and sent out a PR to WWD. A hurt dog will holler. I'm sure they've spent more time making adjustments and trips on other couture clients that are more time consuming and with more effort than just dropping a dress all together. He could have kept quiet, moved on and not even mention it, and if he did maybe in an interview or as a side comment later on about some actress dropping them, but not a full on PR to WWD.

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I don't believe the kaiser, either. Maybe I'm going out on the proverbial limb here, but Karl has been publicly open about dressing the First Lady of the US while many other fashion designers and houses have remained quiet or flat out refused to do so. And with the recent political bickering between Streep and the President, she probably didn't want to promote Karl's brand.

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^ Why would her team commission the dress with alterations and her measurements in the first place then? Something must have happened in the aftermath.

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I totally believe Karl...

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Chanel released a statement saying it wasn't true.. I am quite surprised.

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Meryl is mad at KARL, CHANEL & WWD

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On Saturday, Streep issued a statement to WWD: “In reference to Mr. Lagerfeld’s ‘statement,’ there is no ‘controversy’: Karl Lagerfeld, a prominent designer, defamed me, my stylist and the illustrious designer whose dress I chose to wear, in an important industry publication. That publication printed this defamation, unchecked. Subsequently, the story was picked up globally, and continues, globally, to overwhelm my appearance at the Oscars, on the occasion of my record-breaking 20th nomination, and to eclipse this honor in the eyes of the media, my colleagues and the audience. I do not take this lightly, and Mr. Lagerfeld’s generic ‘statement’ of regret for this ‘controversy’ was not an apology. He lied, they printed the lie, and I am still waiting.”
http://wwd.com/fashion-news/fashion-...-wwd-10820959/

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very embarassing - especially for WWD.

How can they go public with something so juicy without an info check with Streeps Team. Quite bad times also for quality journalism. Karl might now call his version "alternative facts". 😂

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This is so embarrassing. I was a bit surprised that the initial WWD article was published without an answer from Meryl's team - they could have waited for one before going along with the story; it's not like this was explosive news that they couldn't sit on for a day or two. Shame on Bridget for trusting Karl (I assume during a conversation after the Fendi show) without fact-checking first. This is a real smear.

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