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25-01-2018
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Of course she is worried about her business and the future of her position in the fashion world. Her apology is just a PR move. She hired the right people to pen down the right apology. I always get frustrated in these situations when someone comes back to the world 1 or 2 days later to issue a super politically correct, emotional , deep apology.

If you truly are shocked and upset. If you truly feel sorry becasue 5 years later your little bigoted transphobic mind can finally accept difference. Then why not write an honestspontaneous apology when the scandal is happening. She could have said these words, maybe less beautifully formulated, just as fast as she posted on her insta story the picture of this pathetic card sent by Ulyana.

What I want to see now is what show will she get invited to next season. Mira does seem like a smart person. Ignorant for sure, but she does seem at least business smart. What she says in that video was of course meant to please her audience. She knew who she was speaking to and who she wanted to hear these words. She never expected that they would come to haunt her on the other side of the mirror. Will brands make her persona non grata considering the influence she has in her market...

Sweet apology or not I hope there will be repercussions

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25-01-2018
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For me, you can't use 'white girl brought up in conservative society' argument with these two because they are internationally known and have been exposed to other culture enough. I been at least they would have read international news. They are not from the countryside who might not have to means to gain knowledge on such subject matter. For godsake, they are friends with Americans and such. I'm sure they were well aware of the insensitivity and still chose to do it because they couldn't care less. They are cancelled.

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25-01-2018
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I see a lot of harsh judgments both here and in that article that was posted.

I guess my own opinion is that it's fine to 'school' people who are using offensive words (that incident truly sounds innocent to me) or expressing backward opinions. But to say they're terrible people to me seems like a step too far.

I only have a translation (and perhaps not an objective one at that) to go by, but 'weird' is a far cry from 'perverse.' Outside the fashion world, far, far worse is being said (not to mention tweeted by rather important people). Considering the rate at which trans people are being murdered in the US, not to mention all of our other issues, we may not have a lot of room to point fingers at other 'backward, conservative' countries.

My own observation is that when it comes to gender difference, opinions/perspectives/viewpoints really do evolve. We're watching the law change before our eyes. When the marriage equality Supreme Court decision came down, I was absolutely thrilled. I don't believe in this idea of 'It doesn't affect me personally, so ... what's so important again?' But I saw a lot of sealed lips among, say, middle-aged married people I would have expected to share my enthusiasm for justice being done.

Because their lips were sealed, they weren't talking about whatever it was they were feeling, they weren't saying anything anyone could criticize--and they also weren't learning anything.

All of this is still controversial for a lot of people, and a lot of people are still in the process of learning. I don't think it helps to paint everyone who doesn't get it as bad. The whole idea she alludes to that Bryanboy's approach to gender could be catching really does demonstrate ignorance. No, a little kid slamming two Tonka trucks together is not going to see a picture of Bryanboy and go looking for a tutu. But I think a lot of gender-conforming people are genuinely clueless They really have no clue how it works. I think as our society evolves to a better place, those who are struggling to catch up are deserving of some patience and forbearance and just a smidgen of good will.

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26-01-2018
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My only concern here is Dita Von Teese. Girl is all about women and black empowerment and she is best friend's with Ulyana. I hope she keeps her mouth shut.

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27-01-2018
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I'm really concerned with Karl's health now.

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^ Wow, he looks super bloated. Or did he just gain weight?

(I always have to giggle listening to his English, he has such a funny German x French accent.)

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He is a 84 years old man. Of course he is not going to be super healthy but he can still walk (like an 84 years old man can), he can talk and he can draw. We all have this fear of "losing" him but for me he looks great right now.

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Agreed! He's imo way ahead of the average 84yr olds. My nan is one year older and despite being an active woman in her younger years, it's impossible for her to walk like Karl without a cane AND wave.
I actually think Karl looks handsome and masculine with the beard. Hope he keeps it. And the accent is more German than French. One can tell he speaks French, but German is obviously his mother tongue. His intonation on words in English is more German.

He'll probably work until he dies. A lot of old people always say the moment they slow down they get more frail. But I think he should maybe tone some of it down. Leave his namesake brand in the hands of someone else, and stop with the side hustles! Decorating hotels and the like.


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He used to sound a lot better a few months ago. And the makeup seems to cover up a lot of **** underneath.

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The simplicity of the set seems to suggest something...
With all due respect, he will die one day, just like each and everyone of us, Chanel should really start planning for a succession plan if they haven already got one. And I actually hope they do it whilst the man is still alive, and kicking to enable a smooth transition.

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Agreed! He's imo way ahead of the average 84yr olds. My nan is one year older and despite being an active woman in her younger years, it's impossible for her to walk like Karl without a cane AND wave.
I actually think Karl looks handsome and masculine with the beard. Hope he keeps it. And the accent is more German than French. One can tell he speaks French, but German is obviously his mother tongue. His intonation on words in English is more German.

He'll probably work until he dies. A lot of old people always say the moment they slow down they get more frail. But I think he should maybe tone some of it down. Leave his namesake brand in the hands of someone else, and stop with the side hustles! Decorating hotels and the like.
He has already left his namesake brand in the hands of someone else 8 years ago.
He doesn't hide it. It's all done by the Studio. He only shoots the campaign in his 7L studio and has Caroline Lebar who handle everything.

For Fendi, i've heard that he send the sketches through the internet and goes to Italy less than before (he can go one or two times before the show).

Chanel is really his day-to-day job. I don't know if you have figure it out but he doesn't do interviews like he used to do. Now, there's a salon build for him where he receive the press...etc.

You're right about the side projects. I would say that he should stop photographing the campaigns also...

He'll do like Chanel herself and work until he dies. Jacques Helleu who was the creative director of everything Chanel (except for fashion) also died that way 11 years ago. He was the one who choose Kidman to do N°5.

He is surrounded by young people, by the atelier and all. He is really loved in Paris and i believe that it may help him to keep going.
Let's not forget that unlike Valentino he doesn't have a lover to spend time with...

But i think that the day he will not be able to walk, he will stop.

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Chanel should really start planning for a succession plan if they haven already got one. And I actually hope they do it whilst the man is still alive, and kicking to enable a smooth transition.
I think they are and i also think that part of firing Maureen Chiquet was a way for the Weirthemers to prepare their own succession and therefore, Karl's succession.
The two brothers hired him and they have been loyal to each other since 1982.

They are approaching their 70's. You can't have such a business without preparing things....Even more with a family owned group.


It's a pity that he doesn't want to be involved in an exhibition around his work while he is still alive because i think that he deserve a MET exhibition...Even more than Rei Kawakubo (which i adore).


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You're right about the side projects. I would say that he should stop photographing the campaigns also...


it's a pity that he doesn't want to be involved in an exhibition around his work while he is still alive because i think that he deserve a MET exhibition...Even more than Rei Kawakubo (which i adore).
He should stop photographing campaigns because he's a terrible photographer, that should be his main reason not age.

I think his legacy is always going to be problematic and i can see why Rei gets a prestigious exhibition before him, he does not have his own label (of course I'm discounting that high street monstrosity designed to exploit tourists) and most of his life work is under the cosy shelter of pre-existing fashion houses. He's everything but a maverick and never stood alone trusting his own vision. Hedi should take note.

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He should stop photographing campaigns because he's a terrible photographer, that should be his main reason not age.

I think his legacy is always going to be problematic and i can see why Rei gets a prestigious exhibition before him, he does not have his own label (of course I'm discounting that high street monstrosity designed to exploit tourists) and most of his life work is under the cosy shelter of pre-existing fashion houses. He's everything but a maverick and never stood alone trusting his own vision. Hedi should take note.
LOOL That's true his photography is kinda terrible nowadays but i remember a time when it was flawless really. Not just the campaigns but the eds and all. He had some glorious moments as a photographer.

I don't think having your own house mean anything actually because he has always done Lagerfeld. Still to this day, we can see a link between his work at Chloé, Chanel & Fendi.
Even Alber Elbaz from Guy Laroche to YSL and Lanvin...It was pretty much everytime Alber. He used the brand as a tool to expose his vision.

Actually, i wonder if Krizia, Max Mara and all still have Karl's archives.
His exhibition in Bonn curated by Amanda Harlech proved that it is possible to do something with his work. The thing is that it was mostly Chanel, Fendi, Chloé and some pieces from his own line (before it became a masstige brand). It could be interesting to have pieces from all the collaborations he did in the past.

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Editor-in-chief of LOVE magazine Katie Grand talks the latest issue - fashion’s response to #MeToo

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“After all the Weinstein stuff came out, it was only a matter of time before people focused on the fashion industry,” says Katie Grand.

The editor-in-chief of LOVE magazine is talking about the allegations of sexual harassment made against photographers Terry Richardson, Bruce Weber and Mario Testino, with doubtless more names to come, and why she decided to devote the latest issue of her fashion tome to giving models a platform to speak out, in an attempt to bring about changes in the industry that now seem long overdue. “It’s not just the straightforward abuse that models have been enduring for years but also the power balance inherent in the structure that places models, like actresses, so low down the food chain,” she says.

We are in her Clerkenwell office, with the page spreads of the new issue of the magazine on the wall like a scene from The Devil Wears Prada. Except that Grand, in her Simone Rocha black silk dress, all flounces and ruffles, over a long sleeved T-shirt, feet in Balenciaga pink satin slippers, make-up free, black hair askew, is no Miranda Priestley. Poached by Condé Nast in 2009 to launch the ad-heavy, glossy, biannual doorstopper, she is undoubtedly one of the best-connected, most powerful figures in the fashion world, and an experienced stylist and creative director, who continues to work for fashion houses such as Prada, Marc Jacobs and Schiaparelli. She also has a reputation for being brash and intimidating.

The new issue features a stellar cast: model and actress Lauren Hutton, now in her 70s, is quizzed by the likes of Kate Moss and Elle Fanning. Naomi Campbell models Grand’s own wedding dress — a snakeskin number by Azzedine Alaïa in homage to the designer who died in November. Eva Herzigova talks about feeling coerced and shoots that she didn’t enjoy, including one with Helmut Newton. “It’s tough, because you might go with it. And then you feel regretful or uneasy,” she writes.

The really topical interviews are with Edie Campbell (who is on the cover) and Cameron Russell. After the stories about Richardson’s alleged sexual harassment of models broke last October, Campbell had posted “he wasn’t the only one” on Instagram, which Grand reposted. “Then boys started tagging each other on my Instagram and I felt very uncomfortable with it. I’d just had norovirus and was feeling tired and vulnerable, so I deleted it,” she says.

But after Russell started an Instagram hashtag, #MyJobShouldNotIncludeAbuse, inviting models to share their stories anonymously, the floodgates opened. Campbell published an open letter in Women’s Wear Daily, saying tolerating abuse had to stop and that everyone from the agents to the casting directors should share the blame. “Don’t stay silent. Your inaction is complicity,” she wrote, and that she hoped she had “judged the mood correctly.” Indeed she had. Vanessa Friedman and two other reporters from The New York Times began an investigation that ultimately resulted in last month’s story of male models going on the record about being allegedly abused by Weber and Testino, claims they have denied.

Workaholic Grand, now 45, has probably been on more shoots than most of us have had hot dinners. “I’ve never seen anything straightforwardly untoward. What I have witnessed a lot more of is [the model being told] “oh, we’re going to shoot till four in the morning, we’re going to put you in a water tank and tie you up, so you can’t swim. You don’t mind, do you?” she cites by way of example.

In her role as a stylist, does she accept a degree of responsibility too? “Photographers generally don’t listen,” she replies, after a pause. “You can say all you want, [or say] ‘you can’t do that’ but if you’ve got 30 people standing there all saying, ‘it’s 10 o’clock, I’ve got a party to go to, and you say ‘oh, come on take your clothes off and get in the water tank’, the girl’s going to agree, unless she’s pretty strong.” Does that ever happen? “Lara Stone would tell you to f*ck off. She did: on a shoot with photographers Mert Alas and Marcus Piggott.” Notwithstanding, she adds: “They were some of the most iconic images we’ve ever produced.”

So there’s the rub. Put a beautiful model in front of a big cheese photographer or designer and the chances are, concedes Grand, that they will be surrounded by “so many ‘yes’ people who are so scared that they won’t even question a creative ask.” Campbell compared them to the “artist-genius” allowed to behave in any way he sees fit. There’s a hint of regret in Grand’s voice as she describes how she would “usually be the first one with my car keys, hasty to leave, saying ‘OK, we’ve got the pictures, when there were stories of people sitting drinking till 2am. So I started thinking, should I have told everybody to go home? It was my shoot. Especially at the end of last year; it was the first time I’d ever really scrutinised things.”
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What about LOVE’s Advent offering, an annual series of short, titillating and frankly near-pornographic YouTube videos published daily throughout December on the magazine’s website? This year’s selection was billed with the hashtag #staystrong, yet it’s hard to see what is so empowering for women about watching Phil Poynter’s films of models making love to the camera: Emily Ratajkowski in lacy lingerie, writhing on a table as she slips strands of spaghetti in and out of her mouth and down her breasts, Stella Maxwell in a lacy thong, appearing to mount and pump up and down on a bicycle. “Love Advent was shot for fun, with full collaboration of all the models involved. They were involved in the creative and what they wanted to do and we had 170 million views,” responds Grand. Would she do it differently now? “Yes, so much has changed since we shot this in September, we will continue to collaborate closely with the girls on any films we shoot for Love — Advent or otherwise.”

Nor does she have any qualms about who she will or won’t work with again, since she had never worked with Weber, and only twice with Testino and Richardson. “We weren’t friends, although I can imagine if they were closer to me, I’d feel differently. I feel like innocent until proven guilty.” She also suggests that male models may well have suffered even more than their female counterparts because of shame and homophobia. “It’s the 16-, 17- and 18-year-old boys who have been in terrible situations and are not equipped to deal with it. The ones I spoke to say, did I encourage it? Was it my fault? Girls grow up quicker and don’t think about sex in the same way.”

The industry appears to be listening. Last Wednesday, Condé Nast announced the introduction of a new code of conduct. The code covers everything from banning alcohol on shoots to nudity and sexually provocative poses being agreed in advance. It’s not legally binding but follows the introduction in September of the Kering and LVMH charter, which covers other aspects of models’ physical and mental well-being.

It’s a big change from the culture in the late Eighties that allowed Amber Valletta to be sent on her own at 15 on a shoot to Tokyo. “Jaime [King], Amber and Cindy [Crawford] were all talking about their crazy times with such normality, they were like ‘I can’t believe we did that’.”

Another welcome change for Grand is Edward Enninful’s appointment as editor of British Vogue. “Not that Alex [Shulman] wasn’t a great editor, but when you do something for such a long time it becomes only one person’s point of view. No one should stay at the same magazine for 25 years. It was stale and didn’t feel like a magazine I was interested in, despite its good sales.”

She concedes that she can be an exacting and difficult editor at times. “I’m trying to be nicer,” she says, laughing. “And I didn’t shout on this issue.” She also admits she has been frightened of Naomi Campbell “from time to time”, of Tom Ford — “he’s powerful, scary and clever” — and of Edie Campbell (“she can make you feel stupid”).

Perhaps by confronting certain aspects of her own behaviour Grand will be seen to be judging the mood correctly too. “There came a point when I just thought, I’m the editor of a magazine and I’ve got a responsibility to face this.”
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I can totally understand a model feeling pressured to agree to things they do not want to do when faced with the situation that has been described above, I think most of us, when put on the spot like this models are, would have a pretty hard time going against our superiors, particularly when they are very well respected in their fields.
On the other hand if an editor cannot control a photographer that is acting inappropriately, I’m sorry but they should not have the top job, if they are unable to crate a safe environment they should go and work somewhere else more suited to their personality.

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